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Originally posted by MasterPain55

i've tried every mmo that exist and i would say city of heroes/villains has the best combat system, it almost feels like an action rpg which is a good thing.

I doubt that you're even close to try maybe a few % of all mmo that exist... but then again if you count every mmo on top 20 in western game world.. :)

Stop lying it's so obvious that you're full of bull

Originally posted by Czech

Oh my god.
This topic and a lot of others are just starting to piss me off... I really don't know what people are trying to proove. That they don't have anything better to do than to write a hell of a lot of comments and think about how eve sucks. Get a life, play your own games and stop shitting on this game.

If you feel that you can't catch up with the vets - don't play this game and stop whining
If you think that the PvP sucks - don't play this game and stop whining
If you have something against people that see a lot of good things about the game - stop trying to show them they're wrong and keep your thoughts to yourself, cause this isn't getting anywhere!

And go back to WoW  and write about how good the game is there. Don't compare WoW with EVE, just don't. Another thought of mine is, that this game just isn't for people that don't have "anything up their sleeves". It is a harsh environment, but I rather loose tons of ships and have some fun PvP and actually have a goal in a game even if it takes me 3 years to train to be really good at things than to mindlessly farm or be AFK in Battlegrounds in WoW for 3 years.

You won't see me in this topic anymore.

Have a good day.

and yet here you are pointing fingers while you defend EVE.. sooooo amusing to see people asking others to get a life when they obviously don't have one themselves... if it bothers you so much why on earth do you bother to read in the 1st place?

EVE is flawed, I like the fact that a new player can take on a old character however not the fact that a frigate or 2 can take out a BS just stupid... only game I know of who has small guns give lots of damage to big ships and big guns hardly do any damage to small ship... just tell me the logic of that because it really puzzles me.

I got a HP laptop it's superb as for PC you should consider having a custom made don't go for DELL or HP fixed racks you will just have problems. I fix computers and mostly it's fixed big brand racks which has problems hardly.. DELL is defently a top on the list but then again it sells a lot so no wonder we get tons of them in return to fix.

Originally posted by bluealien1

Originally posted by Yamota

Seems like this game is going down, fast. I only tried it at a friend and wasnt impressed but is the game that bad? Heck, even Tabula Rasa is ranked higher...

 

Well, why don't you look at how many people created 5 or 6 accounts just to rate it a 1.

The scoring system on this website is complete and 100% moot for that reason.

aye... so of this site 800k members i recon there is about 500k real people maybe even less... :P

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

Originally posted by Elsabolts

As soon as monthly sales start to go south CCP will start dumbing down areas to attract more players. There already giving out 14 day trials, this happens in all MMO's at some point.

 

Honestly, I think CCP would shut Eve down first rather than dumb down the game.

As far as the 14 day trials goes, CCP has been offering this for a long time now. They know they have a niche market game and takes a little time to learn and get into so some extra free time is a huge help to new players. It's too bad other mmo makers out there only offer 7 days or less.

But I guess the fact that Eve is the only mmo out there other than WoW that has grown every year in population. Just wait til the Ambulation expansion hits later this year and the population will grow even more again.

no need to dumb down a game which already has been dumbed downalready...

I don't mind the game as it is now with a several exceptions.

1 - If you got a bounty on your head you should be free for pickings anywhere.

2 - Free targetting means you have to point and fire would make it more interesting.

3 - Friendly fire the fact that you actually can be hit by your friends makes it more realistic.

4 - Posistioning, make it count that if an object a friend or foe or any object gets in your line of fire the object in your line of fire is soaking the damage and thus you can actually come to assistance your friends in a more cooperative way.

5 - There used to be splash damage for torpedoes now it's just fancy light show. Bring it back.

6 - Make it one character per account then the wuzzes have to pay more to have an alt spy., hauler or miner.

7 - Miners have no value make it a true specialization so pvp'ers actually need to cough up some real effort to make money for their ship.

8 - Warring shouldn't be allowed in empire space no real empire would allow people to war in empire space if it was logic. If people want war everywhere make it so that the specific empire send a npc fleet to hit BOTH sides for fighting in their space and both sides looses stance towards that faction.

9 - More gates between systems to decrease travelling time it's just a drag to jump 50 jumps. This makes it possible to aid friends in need faster or gather people faster. All in all more fun for those who don't bother to do tons of jump just to get to a system which apperantly is closer on the map but have no gates to it.

10 - Never understood the pod system I mean if I created a ship I would have a pod that is shoot out of the ship and accelerate so fast it's not possible to stop. However if your ship is heavily damaged your escape capsule  might not eject this would be more digesting than the current system.

11 -  Webbing is plain and simple just annoying especially when you're webbed by a tiny ship which your ship obviously should be able to drag along since your ship has greater mass and engine power. If webbing should occur you need equal ship size or several smaller ones. Right now it's just too stupid.

12 - Why small guns deals more damage to bigger ship is always puzzling.. and big guns deals less damage to a small ship. If a big gun scores a hit on a small ship it should inflict massive damage but obviously be harder to hit since it's so small and small ships are like flies they hit easy but deal damage of little signifigance and thus is need a greater number to take on any type of big ship. This will make the hard earned BS or larger vessels more worth the effort you actually put into the game.

Note that not everyone has a huge amount of resources to puke out ships and equipment like our corp that have several tech 2 BPO's which makes it just not possible to loose too much ships for our corp to replace it's just not a challenge anymore. It used to be a bit more challenging before we could jump clones but now it's getting too easy to keep your precious implants safe. No risk there anymore unless you don't use jump clones that is.

In the end there is lots of "dumb" things ingame already so dumbing the game more is not an option but make it a tad more challenging for everyone would be interesting.

However I've suggested these things in EVE forums tons of times in the early stages and none was heard on so I doubt it would happen anyway.

As it is now the game is just too dumb to play for me. So a well earned break is needed.

I will ofcourse log in and check how things change now and then but those few of my corp that still is playing and funny enough most went to play WoW instead to have fun.. EVE was fun in the beginning but not anymore maybe I just grew tired of the game.

As for EVE people silly comments go play WoW instead is just backfiring on yourselves.. most people would actually tell you that WoW is more fun.. I didn't like it very much but well for me WoW and EVE is equal both are ok games.

What people want is to be able to log in and play a few hours and have a blast.. in EVE unless you're a pirate blasting on everything that moves no such thing as a few hours of fun. The missions are just too easy and well repeated 1.000.000 times already same goes for complexes..

At least in fantasy mmo's you don't get to do most of the quest/mission over and over again. It's kinda given when you're hoping for that high lvl agent in EVE to give you just the most valuable mission and well you know how to fit your ship for that mission so yaaaaaaaaawn.

Warring and pvp can be fun but it can be a drag as well lurking and waiting for the enemy... occasionally it can take days before you even see the enemy and most of the time the most dedicated pvp'er is actually the most paranoid one so he hide well or far away.

We have had some nice wars no doubt about it but things are just too slow when it gets to pick the fight and when the fght starts if you're lucky enough to be in a tech 2 ship or a capital ship you will last a bit longer than your mates in tech 1 ships which last for 10-20 seconds... I would kinda buy the fact if the guy in a tech 1 BS was under heavy fire from several ships but usally one or 2 is more than enough to take him down if you got the right rig.

So waiting for battle takes long and the battle you waited for so long is too short. Ironically Darkspace it's the other way around you can get pretty fast into battle and a battle can last for a long time.

However Darkspace is pure pvp and a bit old so not many souls there anymore.. and most people in there is usally people who plays or have played EVE and wants some good pvp.

If they beefed up Darkspace a bit make it more massive and a bit more complex it would be a superb game and serious competitor to EVE.. even if it's old the graphics are actually quite nice when you think this is a game that was released in 01.

As for silly comments as when games start to get free trials is when it starts to go south is not very true most mmo's will after a while give a free trial to attract even more people. Those who is dedicated and jumps on a hype is the ones that don't have the patience to wait and buy a game and most of the time they get disappointed over and over again and these is the ones that turns into haters of the very same game they wanted... very funny me think..

Originally posted by Forcan

There's multiple reasons to the WoW hate. 

1.) Some hate it because of the way it used the "tried-and-true" formula of MMORPG and due to its success that most developers aren't making innovations and stand out against the behemoth that is WoW. 

2.) Some hate it because its they felt it's easy, and represent no real challenge.  (such as the death penalty,  the leveling, etc...)

3.) Some hate it because its designs (the linear MMO vs sandbox MMO issues)

4.) Some hate it because it's popular... (yeh, there are some that fall into this category)

 

Personally I'm in the #3 category with a bit of #1... I can give WoW and its developers credit that they made a good game, but I have some differences with the direction of their design... such as the class/level system and whatnot... So my personal hate is from the design view and that no other developers are trying new things to create better games.  They just want to follow the direction of WoW (which is the "tried-and-true" formula from previous linear MMOs), and that isn't good for the MMO genre in the long run, so...

you left out one someone dislikes the setting of WoW I never liked the setting which WoW occurs in, I don't hate the game just don't like what I experience. The game is well made enough but it's not for me.

Personally I think Blizzard is a great company who puts out good titles but there is always some titles which doesn't entierly fall in taste. Doesn't mean it's a bad game same goes for all the popular hate against other games. Either people like it or not no reason to start new topics about it all the time.

I remember creating my 1st character in early 04 with only 13k skill points and was happy about it. The skill point system is ok.. if you made a "better" character than I did you could get a bit above 100k points. :)

Now you get 800k+ points to start with to get more quickly into the game.

What pissed me off was CCP habit of changing requirement of using specific ships/equipment after I've been training for a long time for the skill for a speciality then the requirement was suddendly lowered.

Another thing is that EVE it's to easy to be everything they should have made you choose paths at the beginning. You want to fight you train fighting skills and have higher bonuses on figthing, mining the same, production and so on... to really have truly specilized people... my toon have close to 70 mill points now and can do just about everything doesn't automatically make me a good miner or fighter tho.. but I have greater potentional than a new player.

New players need to do specialization right away to be competative and not everyone have any clue how to train the character good and this is a problem since these people will be waaaaaaaay left behind.

Imo EVE could have been so much better if they valued other player styles than pvp/fighters... but in general everyone is just similar to the other one just with a but different skillpoint setup.

True you can never catch up with the guys who started in may 03 but you can still choose to do anything you want.

All in all EVE is medicore game which had the potentional to become a good game with a huge population.

Tip for new players you need to either join a corp very quickly to get help with how to train your guy or do some reading in forum or else you will end up with a hopeless character.

As for new server I didn't put the hat because the server lagged in almost all battles I participated in or when it was very crowed anywhere.. but I believe there is 3 servers up actually.

Not sure if it was China or Asia and you have a german one and then the standard. The other 2 I never tried to join bbut then again I can't read either chinese nor german.

So for the OP I doubt a new server for english reading people will be up it's not their intention to have many servers.

As for catching up in skill points you can go to various sites and try buy an old character but be warned it cost a bit and the scam factor is high and never trust paypal because they will support the scammer since paypal is an under company of Ebay which don't allow buying/selling of VR items anymore.

So buying stuff you  have to have 100% condfidence in the people trying to sell you which require payment up front nautrally ofcourse. However scamming is also done the other way so if you try to sell stuff be aware of the same shit.

Hoping for a new space game which is better suited for different game styles and which is better for the causual game player.. EVE is not for the causual type you need to spend just too much time to get anywhere unless you got wealthy friends. (this goes for new players that is)

My toon/corp is filthy rich since we have several good tech 2 BPO's but filthy rich doesn't make a game more interesting.. it was just too boring and little action for me.

Good thing is that even after cancelling the subscrption I can still train my long training skill... while I figure out what to do with the shit.

Seems like most of the haters have nothing to show for except for what they believe is facts.. I'm sry that you haters are such a sorry bunch of people who post lots wommit and cannot really back it up. And it's always those who complains that cries the highest and actually bother to rant in topic after topic.

We will see in a year how well AoC is doing after 1+month it's defently not easy to say what it's going to b not for anyone.

People makes guesses in all directions but really no one have any idea how it will turn out in the end.

And I urge the haters of any games to find a game to play instead of posting new topics with hate everyday.

If you don't like a game don't waste your time on it play something you enjoy.

yet another meaningless topic.. who cares really??? I mean why the urge to tell the rest of the world that you're going to play something else? if you had something important to post it would be different but this is just waste of forum space am I afraid.

Originally posted by hobo9766

Funcom won't be around much longer for that since they have been treating their customers including myself like garbage. The company may not even survive now till 2009 at the rate they are going to hell.

Most silliest posting I read today..

If that were to be true several other even more shitty game companies would be dead long time ago and somehow they're still there.

FC as company is valued at 2.000.000.000 NOK or 400.000.000 USD just yesterday stock note release.

For people who cares for stocks etc.. note this is in Norwegian so I recon most people won't be able to read it.

http://e24.no/kommentar/boerskommentar/article2513975.ece

also reported a sale of more than 700.000 copies so far.. also in norwegian...

http://e24.no/it/article2512697.ece

all in all I doubt FC will be gone in close future as well as Blizzard, SOE and other companies people love to hate.

Only way to decrease farming is to impose a limit based on level/skills or storage place how much allowed to earn a day which will reduce the farming quite a bit. Something like they had in diablo2 you have limit storage place for gold and thus need to get up in level to gain more but will never have unlimit space. The main problem is that gold or money doesn't take up any space at all. In a sci-fi game like EVE it would be understandable since they use "electronic cash" but here a limit of earning would decrease farming.

The thing is that in most developers of mmo's has not bothered to do much about it since people tend to find exploits no matter what.

Unfortunatly cheating in mmo is very common... a good chunck of people cheats and find exploits to achive soemthing they possible can't do with regular playing.. which is sad.

So your quest to get some control of farming you need to impose a limit to earnings or else people will farm like crazy.

Resource farming like ore is a  tougher one. in EVE you can just use drones to fix rats which is one of the easiest game out there to farm for resources.

Many cheaters uses extra programs just to make thing easier and have the game play while they're at work/school so a gaming time limit could also be a way but people won't like that very much.

the only thing you can do really is to put limits in different ways which won't ofcourse be very popular especially amongst cheaters/farmers which will be the 1st to complain about your game I'm sure.

If you cut out the possiblity to get gold from minor npc's and decide not to have a crafting system at all then farming should be minimal at least for resources and money.

I used to use Xfire but didn't see any value in using it so haven't been using it for a while and I know for certain that many of my friends don't even know about Xfire or don't care about it.

So using Xfire as a source is only valid for the amount of players using it not for the majoirty that don't bother to use it.

Originally posted by Revthought

Fummy,

The top 5 thing I recently read somewhere, I'll need to search for the link. I believe that I need to add a caveat here, and say that I think it has made the top 5 of the "pay-for-play" category. Meaning games like Guild Wars and Second Life aren't on that list. I know for a fact that CCPs key meterics for EVE have surpassed those of EQ2. This I am certain of.

Ok so you think it has made up to top 5 and read it somewhere..

As far as supporting the "ganking" of new players, I can only say a few things. First, eve-online offers an entirely free two week trial. You don't even need a credit card to set up a trial account.

This gives players two weeks to mess around and see if eve is the type of game they want to play. If they are killed in that two weeks and think it sucks, no harm. They paid nothing. At the end of that two weeks they should know that tacitly what eve is like.

But then again not everyone experience this during these 14 days and even 14 days is a short period of time you might not get ganked at all durring this period not before you pay for the game.

In fact, I got my ship blown up and podded on day 3 of my trial account. What is more, eve offers a pretty in-depth tutorial that warns you about all the things that can happen to you. If you chose to ignore what it says, or simply close out the tutorial before you finish it, you shouldn't come complaining that you've been killed.

As for the tutorial I took was not very in deepth it was very simple and brief.. then again I never did the tutorial more than once so if EVE has made it better now it's good. Many still chooses not to read long EULA's and tutorials so no KUDOS for CCP.. there should be a plain bug writing when game load in that you this is a game which most likely will get you killed at some point ofourse that won't sell anything giving people a warning before they actually start the game.

 

Lastly very very very little "griefing" of new players occurrs. In fact, can baiting a noob in a start system is a bannable offense. The incidents of "suicide ganking" talked about here require a pirate to be willing to eat 30 million isk or more.

They aren't doing this soley for fun. They are motivated by profit. Meaning that if they suicide your hauler/mining barge/mission ship this means you are carrying or have fitted something of significant value.

If this is the case, the victim isn't exactly "new" and has already made money. Enough to go flying about in something worth killing in a suicide gank.

Very little that you know of I would expect... but when there is many topics about people complaining about it I doubt it's so few as you will have it to be. As for baiting not all noobs even know they can ban people for it and it's easy just to create a new account anyway if you get banned. Ofcourse it's pity if it's a old toon you have banned but these guys are veterans and more careful of what they do and not stupid either. As for suicide ganking it really depends on the guys wallet and some believe it or not do it just for fun because they got too much resources and nothing better to do. This topic is still regarding ganking of new players so actually not valid point here.

Killing of new players does occur in low-sec. However, besides the tutorial you are warned with a pop-up screen the first time you try to jump into low-sec. This screen tells you how dangerous low-sec is and asks you if you want to jump anyway.

Yes you get a warning when you jump into low sec.

If you select yes, and then get blown up, it wasn't because some pirate wanted to "grief" you. Its because you PURPOSEFULLY entered an active "pvp zone."'

Not everyone who goes into low sec on purpose I didn't do it 1st time when I went there.. I put auto pilot on and had no idea it was going through low sec.

For the pirates part they have no idea who is a "noob" and who isn't. People often use brand new alts to scout and move expensive items.

This is true most people have to do this because it's no point risk a good character for something simple as this since you can have alts CCP gives people this opperunity to "scout" or use less valuable toons for risky stuff. however this only applies to people that knows EVE not noobs as this topic is about.

Usually, if a pirate finds out (especially in low-sec) that they've killed a true "noob" a convo from the pirate to that player will follow with the pirate offering a lot of advice and encouragement. Sometimes (I've been known to do this myself) the pirate will send isk to the person killed to replace the ship lost.

Very noble of you if you did so but when I entered low sec and got nailed and told was very noble of a team of 5 to gank a noob they just laugh and said in your face.

There was not much encouraging there. One of my friends was actually tricked down to low sec again with the promise to get his stuff back since he was a noob. I told him not to go but he ignored me and got podded.. he was so furiious he uninstalled the game the very moment.

The problem with this thread are three-fold. One isolated incidents are being blown out of proportion and used to generalize the game. The game is not all about griefing.

You would think so but a good portion of the old pplayers has done most and is truly bored and is doing griefing spree. I've been offered many times to join up on these parties when our corp was apart of an alliance but respectfully decline the offer because I didn't see any point on making the day bad for no good reason for a totally unknown player.

Two people come from other games and don't take the time to figure out the game they're getting into. They play for a couple weeks, and aren't bothered by "unrestricted pvp" too much, until they get killed by it. Then they show up on the eve-o forums after losing that first Battleship they worked so hard for in a belt in low-sec.

No this is were you're a bit off they are actually bothered but they have no idea nor the experience as regarding all jamming and shit because well most people like to get into new and better stuff rather quickly and in EVE unfortunalty you die very quickly as well your hard earned BS is zero worth, but then again you need to know the game to know that. And most people starting out don't know that a tech 1 BS is bad and even worse if not tanked in some way. So no wonder they show up in forums complaining. You need to know about things which most fresh BS people have no clue about.

As if they weren't warned 20 times before they got to low-sec what could happen. Again, there is a pop-up when you first try to ENTER low-sec where you are told the danger and have to click "jump anyway." Once on the forums they want a pvp optional setting.

Unless you like tormenting yourself you choose to make the msg not appear again so you won't get 20 warnings more like 3-4 before you choose to disable the msg.

Either that or they get pissed when they are scammed for the first time (something allowed in eve). To paraphrase an eve developer, when you log into their game you are logging into a dark distopia, you are not logging into happy fun time la-la land. If you want the later you need to pick another game.

Scamming allowed in EVE? whaoo there was a huge issue about it in 05 and CCP clearly said that they don't support any type of scamming so scamming was NOT allowed in EVE at least when I played more than a year ago.

The third and final issue is the name calling and assumptions bantered about that try to categorize and analyze a person's real life qualities based on the avatar and play style they chose in a game.

You try to appear as a person who is grown asking others who has a complaint to grow up and yet you're not a better person are you? People will always complain if treated unfair by others in game and when you tell a person to grow up and deal with it in short makes you a very nice person.

Not really.. you support shitheads and no offense yeah you end up as one as well. It's your own choice no one else than you choose to behave like you do.

So as for name calling was rightfully placed because you support scamming and your play style as dark as you like. It was really yourself that made a name for yourself no assumpotion needed here.

 

To those people, I say stfu. You don't know me, or anyone else who plays a "pirate" in eve. You have absolutely no facts in evidence about our lives.

No I'm happy I don't know you and I would not ever want you as a real life friend with your mentality towards strangers well I need say no more. True I have no fats of your life except that you enjoy feeding on others misery which well you more or less have stated in your posting.

The truth of it is often more mundane than you'd like to believe. You see some of us like pvp because its challenging. To find, hold, and kill a ship piloted by a player is 10x more difficult (no matter what the skill level of that player) than blowing up some mission rat.

Yeah even my neighbourgh can be the same person as you doesn't mean I need to like him. I like pvp and a challenge but most pirates I encountred in EVE always come in higher numbers than our corp had... so yeah we had a challenge for sure but I will hardly call it a challenge ganking others.

And podding a player who has no clue about fitting a ship isn't that hard you know it, I know it but the noob doesn't. Killing a noob is not a feat and not comparable of killing an alt of an experienced player.

And it is sometimes fun to play the bad guy. You know, this is probably why you played through KOTOR once darkside. Does this mean you are a rapist, murderer, or otherwise fucked up person? No. You are playing a role. In a game.

I've been playing quite a good bunch of evil characters or roles in a game. However this is within a set of rules which involves only a few players rpg and single player games which require you to play evil.

Treating unknown people badly and scamming them makes you a imo very lousy person. I never implied that a person like yourself is a rapist or murderer but your values towards others is using your own words fucked up.

Yeah a game. That's what we're talking about here.

Yeah fortunatly for you this is a game and very fortunatly for your kind you're safe behind your screen. At least until you anger the wrong person who actually tracks you and comes for you. this has happened before altough in Asia but still possible. The guy asked for it and misbehaving even if it's a game it is still bad. Lots of people spend hours and hours in game play and there is nothing worse than to have people ruin the game or scam you because you showed good faith.

Unfortunatly a lot of people get exploited, scammed and tricked on the net even I have been scammed several times in EVE didn't make me feel oh it's just a game no biggie.. since this is a subscription game you actually pay for it and when someone scams you in EVE it's the same as they steal your real money.

This does not only apply to EVE but most of the internet is high risk to end up with people who is likely to steal your money.

 

 

isn't most mmo's good vs evil , light vs darkness??