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Originally posted by eladamri74

Originally posted by swede2

Originally posted by Rhastafarian

Originally posted by Novality

i been up sense 1:30am here waiting he he and its 7:10 now

Then something is up with the patch I would guess.  You don't have 6+ hours of scheduled maintanance that you don't bother to tell people your going to have.

It was posted on the website , just wasnt right at the top , look a little bit before you start getting pissed about such a minor little thing

May I ask which website it was posted on? I did not see it on the Vanguard site yesterday. I may have missed it I suppose.

The Vanguard -Saga of heroes site it was on there yesterday , whats the big deal i remember not been able to log into WOW for up to 2 days after thier maintenance more than once when i played

Just went and looked they added a few more articals sence yesterday you have to click view all articals at the bottom of the page , but yesterday it was on the main page

Originally posted by Rhastafarian

Originally posted by Novality

i been up sense 1:30am here waiting he he and its 7:10 now

Then something is up with the patch I would guess.  You don't have 6+ hours of scheduled maintanance that you don't bother to tell people your going to have.

It was posted on the website , just wasnt right at the top , look a little bit before you start getting pissed about such a minor little thing

Originally posted by harg

 

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2
I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything put the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

 

The problem with Vanguard has never been spyware or the failures of the users computer.  That representation is part of what got this game such a bad reputation in the first place and continues to give people higher than reasonable expectations when trying it out now.  It has always been with the VG engine itself.  It doesn't matter if your computer is protected by a "trust based" security system like yours.  Which by the way is the most ineffective protection method in the world. 

 

You jumped on the original poster for making an unbelievable statement and then turn around and talk about how crystal clear VG runs for you since day one without any problems?  That flies in the face of just about everything in the history of the game untold tens or hundreds of thousands of people.  From the unstable launch to the overwhelming discussion of the worst performance coming for Nvidia 8800's by both players and devs alike.  The card which you claim to use. 

 

Maybe your story is somehow in the realm of bizzaro world true, but it sure is beyond hard to swallow and certainly makes an unbelievable followup comment after you claim someone else is lieing about their experiences in the game.  I know given the choice between the two based on just the merits of the claims his comes out much easier to believe.

Like i said daffid i dont care what you think or heard or whatever ive been extremly lucky when it comes to vanguard  I dont know why maybe because i have two friends that have been building and bench marking computers for 15 years and they come over and update all my drivers once in awhile , like how many average gamers have even updated there bios or any driver besides sound and graphic's

 

But honesly i think its because my gaming comuter only has vanguard on it  and thats all its used for theres nothing else on it  most people have 50 shortcuts on thier desktop there harddrive is 3/4 full of crap and pictures and screens and video's. You get the idea not many people can afford to have a top of the line computer that is used for only one game but i can and i think thats is a big reason why i never have any problems

Ya i read the vanguard forums and i just shake my head at people having problems i dont see them and i dont know why and i dont really care either

So tell me why do people hitch when they play LoTR and alot of people dont , we all know the game runs awesome i mean it couldnt possiable be there computers and maintenance habits could it

Oh i never said he was lieing about vanguard but dont even try and tell me you play Crysis every setting maxed in DX10 with the rig he posted maybe at the med range settings but hey the game still looks awesome even at med settings

 

Listen mate i've had Vangurad since launch and i know how bad it runs for certain setups (seems to be worse on high end). I have also had Crysis since launch and Crysis runs better, in SP and MP. And i run it at 1920x1200 in DX10 every setting except AA is maxed and it runs smooth. And it's even better now with nVidia improving drivers and Crysis now being on patch 1.2.

SoE are the problem with Vanguard, they are doing what they always do. Instead of fixing the bugs in a game they decide that the game needs a major overheaul of mechanics and start fucking everything up. Even though the performance was shit at launch and it was full of bugs , i like the game and it's mechanics. It stood out somewhat from the other loot based games. But now SoE instead of fixing what was wrong they are turing the game into a total EQII clone to save them making an EQIII from scratch.

Its a single player game its totaly different than a mmo there's no comparing the two as far as performance goes , stupidest thing ive ever heard on a gaming forums
Ya i agree sony just seems brain dead when it comes to vanguard i just dont understand  where they think there headed with it. All give them till after Gu4 and than i think my whole guild is pulling the pin on the game.  I was thinking there trying to get us people that like vanguard to quit , thinking will all go to EQ2. But this is my first sony game and from what ive seen from them it will be my last sony game i play.

Originally posted by Daffid011

There are people who have problems with their computers and will suffer performance issues with any game they play.   Your story on the other hand is about a game that was almost universally sited for its terrible performance and NOT spyware or user error related issues.  Lotro plays fine for the majority of players because it was a finished product when it launched.  Just because people do have problems doesn't mean that VG is in any way shape of form a similar situation.

 

Unless you honestly think everyone should have a seperate computer for each MMO they want to play and have a staff of seasoned hardware builders that comes to their house to babysit their systems and keep it on the cutting edge of software releases.  (not that any of that would have fixed the engine issues with VG as you seem to think).  Yes I have also tried VG with clean installs of windows Vista and XP and just the VG client.  It didn't magically fix the issues the game has or make things go away. 

 

Mind you, I am not saying the game isn't very playable as I think it is, but it is by no mean flawless game as you comments try to paint it.

 

 

 

 

Did i say everyone sould have a super computer with one game on it doh, i said i do and i think thats a big reason why i dont have many preformance problems running vanguard

And the reason i have a staff of seasoned hardware builders come to my house is because between me and my wife and kids we have gave them about 15 grand worth of business in the last year  and they treat us pretty good and rightly so

Originally posted by anubisss

 

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2.

Look harg ive been playing vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1. I dont have a problem running It what so ever .

 

I have heard some whoppers in my day, but this one takes the cake.  Highest settings possible since day one and no problems....   I have no idea what it takes to play crysis, but come on two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I understand it gets old hearing post after post like the original posters, but they keep posting it because the game does have big performance problems.  Aside from a few raving fans here and the official forums just listen to what people are saying.  Heck, ignore the players and just read the devs posts.  From the lead dev on down they all talk about performance being a top priority.  What was the first thing Silius posted in the dev diary.  Performance performance performance... 

Look at Gu4 and the hack job they did on facial customizations.   Why did they do it?  Performance reasons.

 

All these posts about how flawless the game runs and there are no issues are just flat out misleading to anyone interested in the game.  I'm sure the same people talking about how awesome the game runs right now will be back after the next patching talking about how the game runs sooo much better. 

 

 

I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything but the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

This is BS seriously. Are you trying to tell people that you have had no problem with vg since 5 days after it released?  Its people like you who will eventually kill vg or put it so far down the sony station list that its disappeared.

 

When soe finally get the trail island together you will see plenty of people complaining. With your attitude about vg running great and anyone who says it isn't is lieing..you will do vg more harm than good. Vg is a buggy game and has one of the worst graphic engines to date..this is fact .

I have been playing since early beta and have 3 lvl 50 toons so dont even try and convince me that  vg is not a buggy game even on top end systems that run the most graphically dependant games yet falls to pieces when playing vg.

Guess you are never going to admit your are BSing because your fanboyism has clouded your judgement..

Prove the op wrong by making a vid of your toon in khal and several other location ..i guarantee you are bsing..

I am not saying you cant run vg ok but you are bsing..

Ya the game has bugs forsure about the same as any mmo ive ever played , bud trust me if i was having problems i would be the first one to trash the disks into the garbage bin just like half the games i buy and your the first person to bring up bugs here so how am i trying to convince you that vanguard has no bugs lol

I dont have to prove anything to you or anybody i feel bad for people having problems forsure but the fact is i have no more problems playing vanguard than ive had playing any other mmo , which isnt alot of them DaOC and WOW. In fact i fell through the world more in one day in the AB battleground at one point in wow than i have in over a full year of vanguard  and that little bug went on for about 3 months before blizzard fixed it and i could list 100's of other little things but whats the point

No doubt people have problems running vanguard but am not one of them.

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2
I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything put the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

 

The problem with Vanguard has never been spyware or the failures of the users computer.  That representation is part of what got this game such a bad reputation in the first place and continues to give people higher than reasonable expectations when trying it out now.  It has always been with the VG engine itself.  It doesn't matter if your computer is protected by a "trust based" security system like yours.  Which by the way is the most ineffective protection method in the world. 

 

You jumped on the original poster for making an unbelievable statement and then turn around and talk about how crystal clear VG runs for you since day one without any problems?  That flies in the face of just about everything in the history of the game untold tens or hundreds of thousands of people.  From the unstable launch to the overwhelming discussion of the worst performance coming for Nvidia 8800's by both players and devs alike.  The card which you claim to use. 

 

Maybe your story is somehow in the realm of bizzaro world true, but it sure is beyond hard to swallow and certainly makes an unbelievable followup comment after you claim someone else is lieing about their experiences in the game.  I know given the choice between the two based on just the merits of the claims his comes out much easier to believe.

Like i said daffid i dont care what you think or heard or whatever ive been extremly lucky when it comes to vanguard  I dont know why maybe because i have two friends that have been building and bench marking computers for 15 years and they come over and update all my drivers once in awhile , like how many average gamers have even updated there bios or any driver besides sound and graphic's

But honesly i think its because my gaming comuter only has vanguard on it  and thats all its used for theres nothing else on it  most people have 50 shortcuts on thier desktop there harddrive is 3/4 full of crap and pictures and screens and video's. You get the idea not many people can afford to have a top of the line computer that is used for only one game but i can and i think thats is a big reason why i never have any problems

Ya i read the vanguard forums and i just shake my head at people having problems i dont see them and i dont know why and i dont really care either

So tell me why do people hitch when they play LoTR and alot of people dont , we all know the game runs awesome i mean it couldnt possiable be there computers and maintenance habits could it

Oh i never said he was lieing about vanguard but dont even try and tell me you play Crysis every setting maxed in DX10 with the rig he posted maybe at the med range settings but hey the game still looks awesome even at med settings

AMD 2 6000, 2 gigs PC6400 ram , 8800GTX, 2x150 GB western digital raptors 10,000 rpm, i only have vanguard on this machine and it runs awesome i dont hitch ever not even when i run into New targonor every setting maxed at 1920 x1200

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2.

Look harg ive been playing vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1. I dont have a problem running It what so ever .

 

I have heard some whoppers in my day, but this one takes the cake.  Highest settings possible since day one and no problems....   I have no idea what it takes to play crysis, but come on two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I understand it gets old hearing post after post like the original posters, but they keep posting it because the game does have big performance problems.  Aside from a few raving fans here and the official forums just listen to what people are saying.  Heck, ignore the players and just read the devs posts.  From the lead dev on down they all talk about performance being a top priority.  What was the first thing Silius posted in the dev diary.  Performance performance performance... 

Look at Gu4 and the hack job they did on facial customizations.   Why did they do it?  Performance reasons.

 

All these posts about how flawless the game runs and there are no issues are just flat out misleading to anyone interested in the game.  I'm sure the same people talking about how awesome the game runs right now will be back after the next patching talking about how the game runs sooo much better. 

 

 

I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything but the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

 

Originally posted by swede2

Originally posted by AckbarNL

 

Originally posted by LoNeOwNz

Fun? Definitely not.

Fun  Check

 

You call that fun

Well, it all depends on the individual. Apparently, a LOT more people find LOTRO more fun than, say, Vanguard :) (myself included, having played both).

 

(and yeah, i checked your posting history :P)

DB

I  tried the free trial , not my type of game dosent mean its bad ,i can see why other people might like it

Originally posted by AckbarNL

 

Originally posted by LoNeOwNz

Fun? Definitely not.

Fun  Check

 

You call that fun

Originally posted by harg

 

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by sirgeekalot

   So, i just built a new rig, 8800GTS 512, vista64 yata yata.. anyway, i have a station pass for a month so i figured i would give vanguard one last chance.. ( i canceled my preorder during beta, then went back afterwards out of sheer boredom )   I have always wanted this game to succeed just because of its roots but have been sorely disappointed.  It would seem many others are as well as they are down to 4 servers at this point.

   After installing, tweaking and reading all the "tech forums"  Its clear that this game has several fatal flaws that spell  its doom.  All of them technical.  The game world is nice, the gameplay is fun, but its about as well put together as the Alien/human baby ripley had to kill in the last alien movie.   Oh and before you start flaming, yes i have all the latest drivers etc.  Save the inane " its your rig" comments.

  I mean come on.  My rig can run Crysis in DX10 with all High settings at 1920x1200 without stuttering but i cant run this at even half those settings with any sort of decent flow.   Unless SOE pulls a rabbit out of its hat and had a super secret DX 10 patch of doom, its over.

You want to try this post over and make it believable this time ,i mean seriously you people that claim to be running Crysis but cant run vanguard must think people are pretty stupid

 

Considering,  Games for Windows in thier march issue invited the top computer gaming companys to build thier absolute best machines they could possible build right now . These computers are worth anywhere from 5,000 to 12,000 dallors and only 2 of them could run Crysis in DX 10 at 1920x 1200 at over 30 FPS and that was just over 34 and 31 FPS. The rest of them could hardly run it , low of 9 FPSand the other 5 where between 16 and 18 FPS

Everyone of those computers is 10 times the computer you or anyone else has , so maybe rewrite your post and at least try and make it believable this time

Actually you should rethink your post and maybe actually play Crysis, you'd be surprised at how smooth it is at frame rates as low as 15. Here are my specs (my comp is a year or more old)....

 

Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680i mobo

Intel C2Q6600

Asus EN8800GTX 768Mb

Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

Corsair Dominator 4Gb

WD RaptorX HDD

Corsair HX620W Modular PSU

Acer 26" LCD 5ms

With this system i can play Crysis at 1920x1200, the frame rates are not high but the game plays really really smooth which is more than can be said for Vanguard. I have used both XP and Vista with Vanguard and it's the same on both, stuttering and lots of hitching. I can even play Lotro completely maxed out in DX10 and it runs far and away better then Vanguard. It has been well known since the game launched that Vanguard didn't play well on high end machines.

Look harg ive been playing vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1. I dont have a problem running It what so ever .Your not playing crysis every setting maxed in DX 10 with that rig and only a complete fool would even think to compare a mmo to a single player games performance thats about the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Ya i tryed LoTR rings every setting maxed to it did run nice, didnt make up for the butt ugly graphic's every where i looked .Ya they looked ok from a distance than when you got close to anything you can see why the game runs so good . The original Deer hunter game from 10 years ago had the same trees as LoTR . sprites everywhere you look. Plus the first time i made my character jump it was like been in the middle of a gay pride parade that was enough for me lol

Originally posted by Heltern

It is a problem with bad programming, remove the game and install AoC when it is out, no more hitching!

You obvisously havent got in AOC beta yet

Originally posted by sirgeekalot

   So, i just built a new rig, 8800GTS 512, vista64 yata yata.. anyway, i have a station pass for a month so i figured i would give vanguard one last chance.. ( i canceled my preorder during beta, then went back afterwards out of sheer boredom )   I have always wanted this game to succeed just because of its roots but have been sorely disappointed.  It would seem many others are as well as they are down to 4 servers at this point.

   After installing, tweaking and reading all the "tech forums"  Its clear that this game has several fatal flaws that spell  its doom.  All of them technical.  The game world is nice, the gameplay is fun, but its about as well put together as the Alien/human baby ripley had to kill in the last alien movie.   Oh and before you start flaming, yes i have all the latest drivers etc.  Save the inane " its your rig" comments.

  I mean come on.  My rig can run Crysis in DX10 with all High settings at 1920x1200 without stuttering but i cant run this at even half those settings with any sort of decent flow.   Unless SOE pulls a rabbit out of its hat and had a super secret DX 10 patch of doom, its over.

Considering,  Games for Windows in thier march issue invited the top computer gaming companys to build thier absolute best machines they could possible build right now . These computers are worth anywhere from 5,000 to 12,000 dallors and only 2 of them could run Crysis in DX 10 at 1920x 1200 at over 30 FPS and that was just over 34 and 31 FPS. The rest of them could hardly run it , low of 9 FPSand the other 5 where between 16 and 18 FPS

Everyone of those computers is 10 times the computer you or anyone else has , so maybe rewrite your post and at least try and make it believable this time

At my level if you start using Critical shot and poison shot exspecialy and you will be out of energy before you even kill a equal level 2 dot , you use my method and you can kite 4 dots all day long and never even but a dent in your energy

And thats bull about melee been better am a level 50 weaponsmith and ive got the best swords you can craft for my lelel and so does my guildmate who is also a level 42 ranger who likes to pull than melee and we have had contests and i out dps him easly if fact by the time am done killing my mob i still have time to help him take the last 2/3 of life off his mob , both exactly the same mobs

Originally posted by greenstumps

I still don't see why everyone says the performance is sooo great I mean I can run Crysis on Ultra settings at a stready 40-50 FPS with no slowdowns and as you know your machine has to be top end to do that. I can max out any mmorpg with framerates over 75 which is my refresh rate and then I tried Vanguard again with my new machine early Jan 2008 on the veteran 21 day thing and the game ran just as horrible as it did at launch. Every time I turned around it just went all stuttery and the game used up more and more ram slowly until it was using sumthing stupid then crashed because you have to type /flush or something all the time which is nuts.

The game is just butt ugly and I don't see why it runs soo bad and i've been building PC's since the mid 90's and know how to keep my machine runnign smooth so it's nothing to do with my PC seeing as Vanguard is the only game that runs sooo bad. What's amazing is games like WOW look sooo much better because they use Art and Style to make it look good and Vnguard only uses the Unreal 2 engine so it isn't vey high in polys, I reckon the team just don't know how to optimized properly.


All these fans are trying to defend the game and I dunno call me a troll if you like but i'm sick of you people paying for crap which leads to the release of more crap so i'm not gonna sit back and not pick out all te faults because then nothing will ever be done.

Hey greenstumps all spend my own money on whatever i want . My computer runs vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 and thats forcing 8xQ AA and 16x anisotropic filtering through the nvidia control panel . Guess the computers you build just arent that good hey