#6 was combat.  Collision detection plus a true 3d world makes for an incredible combat experience.  Tankers can actually do they're job and protect squishies.  You can take advantage of height and flight!  Air combat is fun and adds a regular element (the z axis!)  that any game not set in space or underwater ever could.

Originally posted by therain93

Do the CoX trial at the very least.  I can't speak to EQ2 or FFXI but having played a few other games, I find City Of ____ to be a satisifying gaming experience for a few different reasons.

1.) It's not about loot which is typically the driver of most games, particularly WoW and its battlegrounds.  In CoX you get enhancements that drop from higher level mobs and can "slot" them for bonuses to your powers and there are a few high level "monsters" like the Hamidon (you'll hear the phrase "Hami run" probably) that drop slightly better ones but all in all, there is no equivalent uber loot.  The fact that you don't have loot as an objective means you ultimately play the game just to play the game.  The combination of powers and the ability to slot so many different enhancements means min/maxing just doesn't necessarily work.

2.) As an earlier poster mentioned, you have 5 archtypes to choose from.  Each is soloable, particularly since you can visit an npc that will tune difficulty/xp reward as you wish but this is the first and possibly ONLY game where the WHOLE party is greater than the sum of the parts.  Seriously, Cryptic managed to build very compatible classes that are fun to play and play with.  Due to the scaling of missions based on number of players, every class (controllers, blaster, tankers, defenders and scrappers) has its role but the composition can be tinkered enough that there is no necessary group formula.

3.) Speaking of mission scaling, Cryptic nailed the superhero experience.  Sure, our heros typically fight the one super baddie but often your fighting piles of foes.  Usually your hero can fight about 2-3 even conned bad guys and the numbers just grow with the level of your character and the size of your party resulting in massive, epic-feeling battles.

4.)  Customization and Immersion is a huge part of the game.  You can spend hours with the costume generator before beginning the game, plus you get additional slots at levels 20, 30, 40 and 50.  Aside from general grouping, guilds are formed a super groups with their own motto and costume as well.  When you switch into supergroup mode, addition "prestige" earned for conquests goes to the team rather than your personal pool.

5.)  The community is pretty much the best I've seen since starting on Dark Age of Camelot so many years ago.  Sure, like every other game you may have to turn off the broadcast channel but finding parties is extremely easy to do.  It may just be the genre of the game which lends itself to cooperation.

About the only things working against CoX is it is an older game now (almost..3 years old come this march I think) and content has been coming out slower (some will argue there wasn't enough to begin with.)  I think for the power gamers who are there to get the maximum level, they miss a good chunk of the game.  That isn't to say that mission maps get repetitive, they do at times but for casual gaming, CoX can keep you going for a long time.

If you enjoyed the single player "Freedom Force" games in particular, you will enjoy this one.

 Edited for typos (wow, there were alot!)

Do the CoX trial at the very least.  I can't speak to EQ2 or FFXI but having played a few other games, I find City Of ____ to be a satisifying gaming experience for a few different reasons.

1.) It's not about loot which is typically the driver of most games, particularly WoW and its battlegrounds.  In CoX you get enhancements that drop from higher level mobs and can "slot" them for bonuses to your powers and there are a few high level "monsters" like the Hamidon (you'll hear the phrase "Hami run" probably) that drop slightly better ones but all in all, there is no equivalent uber loot.  The fact that you don't have loot as an objective means you ultimately play the game just to play the game.  The combination of powers and the ability to slot so many different enhancements means min/maxing just doesn't necessarily work.

2.) As an earlier poster mentioned, you have 5 archtypes to choose from.  Each is soloable, particularly since you can visit an npc that will tune difficulty/xp reward as you wish but this is the first and possibly ONLY game where the WHOLE party is greater than the sum of the parts.  Seriously, Cryptic managed to build very compatible classes that are fun to play and play with.  Due to the scaling of missions based on number of players, every class (controllers, blaster, tankers, defenders and scrappers) has its role but the composition can be tinkered enough that there is no necessary group formula.

3.) Speaking of mission scaling, Cryptic nailed the superhero experience.  Sure, our heros typically fight the one super baddie but often your fighting piles of foes.  Usually your hero can fight about 2-3 even conned bad guys and the numbers just grow with the level of your character and the size of your party resulting in massive, epic-feeling battles.

4.)  Customization and Immersion is a huge part of the game.  You can spend hours with the costume generator before beginning the game, plus you get additional slots at levels 20, 30, 40 and 50.  Aside from general grouping, guilds are formed a super groups with their own motto and costume as well.  When you switch into supergroup mode, addition "prestige" earned for conquests goes to the team rather than your personal pool.

5.)  The community is pretty much the best I've seen since starting on Dark Age of Camelot so many years ago.  Sure, like every other game you may have to turn off the broadcast channel but finding parties is extremely easy to do.  It may just be the genre of the game which lends itself to cooperation.

About the only things working against CoX is it is an older game now (almost..3 years old come this march I think) and content has been coming out slower (some will argue there wasn't enough to begin with.)  I think for the power gamers who are there to get the maximum level, they miss a good chunk of the game.  That isn't to say that mission maps get repetitive, they do at times but for casual gaming, CoX can keep you going for a long time.

If you enjoyed the single player "Freedom Force" games in particular, you will enjoy this one.

 Edited for typos (wow, there were alot!)

I can see you guys going back using the free trials to see how life is there but why the heck are you PAYING them?!?  Sony could care less how much you complain so long as you fill their coffers. The fact that you pay for your dissatisfaction is mind-boggling and does nothing to change situation.

VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET!

I'm curious to see how this release will go.  With the lack of franchise on either screen (perhaps the books are still selling strong), either Trekkies will be starved for this game (which can lead to high expectations and a huge letdown like SWG) or it will experience an out of sight/out of mind syndrome.  I'm skeptical about the latter, but you never know.  The Trek franchise has been waning for some time althought the cancellation of Enterprise seemed premature.

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Originally posted by TheAstaldo

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Originally posted by therain93

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Originally posted by TheAstaldo
In my opinion it is good that the developer considered to bring this game on 360, because
a xbox is cheaper than a whole new computer and you can play other games with a nice
graphic, too. Another advantage is the Game Pad. I think that it will be more user-friendly.

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Eh, I bought a refurbed dual-core from Dell for less than an xbox 360...  PC gaming isn't THAT expensive...

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I dont think that you can play this game with your new pc on high graphics... Ace of Conan will be released in Direct10 and there are
no Graphic cards which can handle this ;). So if you want to have a good graphic youd better buy a Xbox360, its cheaper and you have a phantastic graphic!

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Perhaps, but you're also assuming that the 360 will be able to handle conan's high end directx 10 graphics without a problem.  Remember, the xbox 360 was released in November 2005 meaning that you're expecting 2 year old equipment to run it as well as cutting edge.  In a nod to the xbox though, the gpu has 48 shader units and runs at 500 mhz although apparently it only "can do 4x FSAA, z-buffering, and alpha blending with no appreciable performance penalty on the GPU." (per http://techreport.com/etc/2005q2/xbox360-gpu/index.x?pg=2)

So we'll see ( ' :

Maybe I'm missing something.  It would be really nice if in the "Sections" box with 'Mail', 'Recent' and 'Active', there could be 'Replies' and it just puts together a list of every topic someone has replied to since you posted on it.  Limit it to the 200 most recent topics or something otherwise it's very tricky to watch threads even with alerts sent to personal email.

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Originally posted by TheAstaldo
In my opinion it is good that the developer considered to bring this game on 360, because
a xbox is cheaper than a whole new computer and you can play other games with a nice
graphic, too. Another advantage is the Game Pad. I think that it will be more user-friendly.

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Originally posted by CeLL1978

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Originally posted by DyotoOrion

At the moment the industry is stale and money oriented, run by dicks who have very little idea about how to make a good game.

Maybe in the future things will change. I hope we will see another Golden Age oneday.

Until then, Peace.

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QFT

Had the same argument on boring games with a friend at work the other day. There are two things you can do about it, either fight it or go with the flow. If you find how to fight it let me know
Would that be trying the new technologies? Like Wii?

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Originally posted by Tamalan
Well these days I game with my 8 year old son, introducing him to games and playing them with him gets me a 'passive' or 'secondary' high, I get to see old games through new eyes which is nearly as good.

Currently I can be found on the Euro CoX servers playing Green Power Ranger to his Red, lots of fun :D

Pick a game you can still stomach and try to bring in friends/family who havnt played, even the most dull and overplayed game can be fun again with RL buddies.

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Originally posted by naldric

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Originally posted by RK-Mara
I've heard that the book sucks too.

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Bashing popular books is like cool, that's why people say they sucks, read them and they are pretty good, of course they are not close to the Chronicles of Pern serie (if you like dragons but dislike magic lol) that has a lot more depth to it, but well Anne McCaffrey got a lot more experience writting ;) (Cant go wrong with the first female writer to win a nebula award in 1968 for "Dragonrider" one of the chronicles of pern)

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Originally posted by dsorrent

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Originally posted by Zepee
Well.... LotR and Harry Potter did good... why can't Eragon do good aswell...

I thought only Video games gave bad movies

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I agree on LotR series however I think Prisoner of Azkaban could have been better.

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Originally posted by fulmanfu

no chance of it flopping it will sell tons and do very well, just not sure about the staying power of it a half year or so down the road

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Well, I think everyone here needs to consider what flopping means.  They can push a lot of units but that doesn't necessarily make it a success, especially in the world of mmorpgs where they need something like 18 months of subscriptions (hearsay number, I don't know) to be successful.

I think the LOTR title will sell it initially.  I can't comment on how well it will due because, hey, gotta play it first.  What I do think is that they missed the boat for the franchise.  The movies will be 3 years old and another quality franchise movie (either the Hobbit or a lame "prequel" based on disjointed tales from the Silimarillion) won't be ready in time for a tie-in.

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Originally posted by SnaKey

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Originally posted by grunty
Because a piece of string is breaking that means the entire Wii is a flop. Yeah, right.

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Actually, my buddy looked up the system specs of the Wii. That's what I think is going to make it crash. They are..... incredibly sub-standard.

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Sub-standard actually is what essentially is the standard for today.

Blu-ray support?  Are families across america ready to toss out their DVDs?  No.

1080p HD support?  Do you think that many HDTVs have sold?  Do you think people really are going to spend 2000 dollars to upgrade their tv for a game system?

Why should Nintendo incorprate bells and whistles and ask a majority of its targeted user base to pay for said bells and whistles that won't be used by the majority of them? Blu-ray and 1080p is for the early-adopter/fad following fan boi who can afford those toys. Even if they are wealthy, it's a small segment. The wii fits this market (which effectively is every family with a TV) for the next 3 years. By then, newer video technology should have saturated the market and it would make sense to upgrade and the costs of implementing those bells and whistles will have dropped.

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Originally posted by Infliction

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Originally posted by Zeknichov
I'm surprised no one has said WoW.  If Diablo was ever made into an MMOG it would be a near replica of WoW.

Tons of useless items.
The only items worth using are from doing mephisto/Bhaal runs all day... I mean MC/BWL runs all day.
Socketed Items
Quick leveling
Pointless PvP

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Go play Diablo 2 on hardcore mode and come tell me that PVP there is pointless. If Diablo is ever made into an MMO, I'll be the first to play it, so long as they retain the necromancer class as being able to summon a hoarde of skeletons

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