Aion's hype has decreased every single time it hits beta, while people were playing the game, and increased steadily the days after it closed, once people had free time. It's been like this since CBT1.

Wonder why.

Originally posted by riceae02

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by riceae02

Title says it all. and no I am not playing WoW, but it is still on my hard drive. and b4 you say it YES this is a troll ... so what?

 

It didn't happen anything, Aion's community is (mostly) mature enough to understand that WoW can't be killed. Most of the "wow killer" posts were made by threatened blizzard fanboys in fact, as it was something that was repeated over and over for previous releases last year, and now they use it as mockery.

 

Cheers!

 

Future Politician here, you are truly a spin doctor lol, ... He actually puts  "in fact"  like he's done the research.

Looks like you'll be the oppossition here as you have no game ;)

I think the similarities are minor in the long term (excepting it being faction based).

Most of the things WoW did/copied are now standard of the MMORPG genre, you can just check out betaboards to see how people complain every time something is not like in WoW, Aion copied those things indeed, but minor details such as where your HP/MP is displayed don't make a game, core features do, and that's where Aion and wow differ.

Originally posted by riceae02

Title says it all. and no I am not playing WoW, but it is still on my hard drive. and b4 you say it YES this is a troll ... so what?

It didn't happen anything, Aion's community is (mostly) mature enough to understand that WoW can't be killed. Most of the "wow killer" posts were made by threatened blizzard fanboys in fact, as it was something that was repeated over and over for previous releases last year, and now they use it as mockery.

Cheers!

Originally posted by usa911

from npc or auction?

npc, in pandemonium its placed in the middle of the fountain, in front of the church. In Sanctum, no idea.

Originally posted by usa911

Hello people

I am really considering either adding collector edition to my account or not?

In the abyss you know flight time is the most important thing.

If it could be farmed, I dont need to purchase addtional expansion.

any Infos?

No, but you can get slightly worse ones at level 30 for ~900k kinah

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Zorndorf

For tohse interested:

If you attack from behind in WOW your dodge and parry ratings are reduced to .... zero.

That means "jumping over" and battling without autofacing and autofollow : WOWconsiders the positions of each avatar and so it also based on skill. That's why IN game champions are the same as OUT of the game offical competitions of 3vs3 and 5vs5.

As for balance: In Aion apparently there is ONE classe represented in 50% (!) of the op 100 in that so called one "group" PvP zone.

http://www.massively.com/2009/09/05/aion-abyss-rankings-show-assassins-like-it-on-top-korean/

In WOW (which haters were always SOOO detrmined to call it unbalanced) : 9/10 classes are represented in the op 5 teams of 5vs5. ALL classes stand in that top 100 of group PvP (3vs3 and 5vs5).

So just wanted to mention this before those Wow haters piss on my game and camouflage the Korean copycat.

 

 

 

 

That's not a "top" chart, its the one of who spent less AP, as almost nobody has complete abyss sets yet.

Good try tho.

Dude those are the stats of the ASIAN version.
 

Those are the stats of the MILLIONS of play in Asia during ONE FULL year.

 

Those are the ammount of current Abyss points at the moment. That chart, if anything, shows most Koreans are assassins, which we already knew due to their 1.0 OPness. Nowadays Assassins are pretty balanced, and even a bit gimp in certain situations. My guild, after playing this game for almost a year, has decided to go with only 1 assassin in our 24 men setup for the european release, that should tell you something.

Abyss points are spent in stuff you buy, if I had 900k AP, I'd lead the chart, if I bought a level 50 abyss bow, I'd be at the bottom. Gotta love how every post you make trying to diss Aion turns against you because you fail at comprehending what you're reading.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

For tohse interested:

If you attack from behind in WOW your dodge and parry ratings are reduced to .... zero.

That means "jumping over" and battling without autofacing and autofollow : WOWconsiders the positions of each avatar and so it also based on skill. That's why IN game champions are the same as OUT of the game offical competitions of 3vs3 and 5vs5.

As for balance: In Aion apparently there is ONE classe represented in 50% (!) of the op 100 in that so called one "group" PvP zone.

http://www.massively.com/2009/09/05/aion-abyss-rankings-show-assassins-like-it-on-top-korean/

In WOW (which haters were always SOOO detrmined to call it unbalanced) : 9/10 classes are represented in the op 5 teams of 5vs5. ALL classes stand in that top 100 of group PvP (3vs3 and 5vs5).

So just wanted to mention this before those Wow haters piss on my game and camouflage the Korean copycat.

 

 

 

That's not a "top" chart, its the one of who spent less AP, as almost nobody has complete abyss sets yet.

Good try tho.

Originally posted by GameMonger71

It could just be me, but from the looks of the Aion Source forums it is not, but man Aion has some serious issues on the first day of OB with GameGuard.  Before the GameGuard problems, which will not even allow me to get back into the game, the lag was pretty bad.  I am hopeful they will get this reworked soon.  I had fun in CB and expect to have more fun soon.  It is just frustrating when this happens.  I am not going to join the gloom and doom folks (although I am sure they will love adding this title to their sights after AoC and WAR pretty much flopped).  This is just the first day of OB and problems do occur.  Now, if the problem continues....

They are using test server's build, 1.5.03, I also had this same issues in Korea with windows 7 64 (at least the one that states you're using illegal software) but they were fixed already. Just wait till NCwest gets the latest gg patch.

www.areyouhellbound.com/forum/showthread.php

You can see me talking about it like 1 month ago.

Originally posted by Model192

Oh I'm sorry, watching the korean pvp tournaments and their autofollowing might have just convinced me that especially in 1v1 autofollow happens ALL MATCH.

 

Anyway, anyone who likes AION enjoy. Nothing wrong with liking it.

It happening doesn't make it any more effective. Again, refer to the video I posted to see how not autofollowing, taking shortcuts instead helped me in that situation.

Originally posted by Model192

Dude, not even fucking CLOSE.

 Even your wow ideas are WAY off from the truth and what was said.

IF you have an auto follow it STRICTLY CREATES the rock vs. paper vs. scissors atmosphere. SERIOUSLY. It creates the standing still vs. standing still, which requires NO SKILL because at that point it's GEAR AND CODE DEPENDENT. It REMOVES THE PLAYER FROM THE EQUATION. The more you remove the player the worse a game becomes on gear and code.

I dont know what you people smoke.

You have no clue, seriously.

During a chase, you could either follow footsteps or take shortcuts/try to figure out oponents next steps.

Who is going to be more efficient? A guy who, at the same speedrate, follows the footsteps of his enemy? or a guy who guesses where his enemy is going to move to, taking shortcuts to that zone?

Your experience in pvp seems quite limited if you can't see how autofollow is not something skilled players will use.

I'll even refer to my guild's Aion video, Im Flv, in the intro of my character, do you think that I could have managed to do the ice chain if I was autofollowing?

www.youtube.com/watch

Originally posted by Model192

Same old stuff, no real depth of character or anything like that. Very WoW like but seem to pull it off worse with clumsier controls. Graphics are really nice. Good graphics.

The one thing I could see being a major problem is the attacking "feature". On my warrior if you click attack it will autofollow/attack at the same time. How could this be good for PVP or inject any skill into it what so ever? Ugh.

Does it feel like they've been in release for a whole year? No.

Same old boring quests. Would I pay 50$ for release and a monthly when I can just stay subbed to another game? NO. NO WAY IN HELL.

I mean good attempt, just...no. This style of play just turns into every other style of korean gameplay. 1. Have better gear and have spells queued up in the right order. Roast someone. Rinse and repeat. Just the fact that the game doesn't have a free movement system for pvp really douches it up.

I dunno, I won't be wasting my money on this. You can call me a troll or whatever you'd like but I saw the PVP videos and everything...no.

Some people will like it, probably the PVE gang.

Try to catch kiting people with autofollow before putting it down.  To be a PvPer you seem to be a really terrible theorycrafter if you "guessed" autofollow has any impact on this game's pvp.

Originally posted by Xasapis

And what exactly does it make Aion a "grind"? Surely not the levelling speed, so it must be something else.

Its Korean, we have to be critic against it man and the grind stereotype is already well stablished, so why not use it once again? get with the flow!

Originally posted by vega151

Originally posted by Mirrandor

 If you don't want to use the chair sellers, ignore them. It's that easy. The only difference is that there's a person standing there with a sign on their head sitting in a chair versus an avatar just standing there doing nothing afk.

 

Yeah come back and tell me the same thing in a couple of weeks / months when you enter a town and your graphic card will start crying because there's a shitload of personal stores on your screen, to the point where you can't make up the color of the tiles on the ground or can't find the NPC you need to speak with to finish your quest since he will be lost somewhere in that crowd....

 

Personal stores are stupid and a pain in the ass in the long run, end of story... You just watch when they'll take over the towns and capital cities... Not mentionning the gold farmers that will be in the bunch too...

 

For the old timers here that played Ragnarok Online: you know what I'm talking about...

That doesnt happen in Aion, the game is well optimized, they made it so if your computer is slow it will only hide characters until they are loaded, instead of trying to load before letting you move. There are videos of PvP with hundreds and hundreds of players on each side, the guy sees a swarm of names, few characters are loaded on his screen, and he can move perfectly around the world targeting and throwing his AoEs without slowing down while the rest of textures keep loading.

Shall we say there is no problem with personal shops, then?

Originally posted by Catbones13

Thanks for the quick responses guys, that tells me what I was wondering about.

Regarding those other channels, they don't apply to zones where the rifts are, thus allowing a person to switch channels to try to avoid any potential lowbie-griefers or the like though? 

And when you switch channels while in a group, does your group switch channels with you or how does that work?

I remember back in Anarchy Online, you would enter a building and it would be instanced like that and you couldn't choose what instance, so you and your friend would have to enter a few times til you landed in the same instance, hehe...

 

Thanks again.

 

Your group doesnt automaticaly switch channel once you do, you have to tell them where you're heading, choosing the channel is easy, you say "I go to channel 7" and they follow you there without any problem.

As they said before, those channels are only there for the initial rush, in Korea, they already took them away in most servers. This is only to guarantee people won't lack quest mobs and what not, instead of having multiple cities, which is, imho, a con.

But then again, the first 19 levels are 12 hours of hardcore leveling, so no biggie. In areas with rifts, there are no channels at all, so hiding is impossible.

I doubt people are hating on tor for not being a 100% sandbox, in my case, I dislike the way tor went because it seems to be taking away a lot from the MMO part of MMORPG, they seem to be focusing on story telling instead of ways to interact with the other players and the world.

This leads to believe the endgame isn't going to be the strong part of the game, and also, it seems to leave guilds behind, at least, nothing they've advertised seems to catter guilds and thats huge for me and many others.

I dont care about no classes or no levels like most sandboxers do, but a little bit of interactivity, specially guild wise, would turn me interested in this game...as it is now...nope.

I dont think you'll see many endgame Aion players stating it's linear. Not more than most games at least. Cant believe how many self called experienced gamers judge a game by its tutorial area. One of the things experience should have taught them is not to judge a book by its cover.

Aion has group quests, which, imho, beat the crap out of PQs in terms of challenge and overall entertainment.

Thing with warhammer is that all of the sudden, everyone was your friend, even that douche who would just jump in the middle of the PQ was rewarded for your work. I prefer communities when they stablish themselves, instead of having the game do that for you.

Originally posted by Pezhead

Originally posted by Ephimero

the 1 to 20 experience fooled you, pez.

 

Heh, you make a good point Ephimero-or should i say LIVVY!  :D

It's true, Ive only played to 24(spiritmaster) in beta and 26/22(Gladiator/spiritamaster) in Korean retail.  So no, I havent fully experienced the game, but my understanding is that quest content is much heavier in general throughout the game when compared to other "Korean Grinders" , if less then that of WoW.  It is also my understanding that Aion will release live with additional quests via 1.1/1.2/1.5 patches.

As for me "puffing myself up", indeed, I am VERY frustrated with what I am seeing from the online AION community.  In game isnt so bad, but what many times people see as the face of a game is its online(forum) community, and having ignorant posters posting dumb things is not acceptable. Now, you have stated that most "fanboys" already know this. 

Call it masachism, but I like reading troll threads just because it makes me frustrated and want to tear my hair out(sometimes).  The trolls are bad enough, but when AION fans, flock to a thread saying stupid things that are blatantly incorrect, that's even worse, and makes everyone look horrible(except for the troll).  People saying

"CRYengine the engine in CRYSIS! Aion has the best GFX in the world!"

"Aion IS better then WoW because blah blah this and blah blah that"

"AION has unrestricted PvP, and flight"

"AION 's classes are very balanced, skill is everything, if you play your cards right in a 1v1 fight, you can win fairly"

"We don't want you playing Aion cause we'd rather have a smaller community"  (then why talk about how AION is gonna have so many subs)

Simply put, I am venting disgust and frustration, my apologies for using the term "fanboyz", but after reading a few posts in the "Aion-next big MMO" thread, I couldn't help myself, and believe me, I'm not the only one whos noticed, remember that thread about the AION community sucking? Well they weren't referring to the in-game community.... they were referring to the most blatantly obvious one, that of the forums.  Go figure.

 Is it a good game? Hell yes, am I going to play it? I have been and I am going to. 

and yes, AION is like WoW, just because WoW is a "copy" of EQ, does not change the fact that AION is very similar in many ways to the World of Warcraft.

 

 

Im not livvy o.o far from that, livvy is a huge retard.

And I dont think you got what I meant with my post, 1-20 might feel like wow, progression cant be really different if we are into a level system based game, but the game, when it matters (the part you'll be playing the most out of your entire experience, aka endgame) is completely different.

the 1 to 20 experience fooled you, pez.