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In your opinion: What was the dumbest MMO mechanic ever made?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/29/09 2:10:02 PM
Originally posted by Brif
Especially the restrictions. Like how one class is unable to hold a certain weapon which is so ridiculously unrealistic.
On the other side of the coin, I don't feel you should be able to automatically know how to use and be proficient with just any ole weapon either. With that said, I'd be agreeable to a skill buy system like D&D uses, so that you can 'train' to use weapons that your class normally wouldn't be proficient with. |
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In your opinion: What was the dumbest MMO mechanic ever made?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/29/09 2:06:31 PM
Originally posted by MattD
It's a convenience issue for me. I don't want to be forced to 'set up' shop and miss out on other action, IE questing, hunting, farming etc. |
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In your opinion: What was the dumbest MMO mechanic ever made?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/29/09 2:03:46 PM
Originally posted by Brif
There will always be a point system of some sort, whether they are visible or not, in RPG's and MMORPG's. Take skill points in UO, whether you want to admit it or not, it's still a form of experience points as it requires repeated actions making you stronger at a certain action and 'more experienced' and thus more skilled at that action. Taking UO as the example you need this sort of system to raise your str, dex, stamina, etc. How would you propose RPG's and MMORPG's be built without some sort of piont system... Everyone is max level with max stats for their race/class combo from the start....? I'd pass on that myself, there needs to be a progression system, and either visually or 'under the hood' it will likely always be a point system. |
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Originally posted by Angorim
So the answer is that if people want to play this game they are forced into using a view, that if there were an option they wouldn't use in the first place.....? Sounds like it speaks volumes for why 3rd person should be the focus of the game, and not vice versa.... I'll be honest though, I'm chiming in for no reason. I'm not going to buy the game, have no interest in a game with no story, quests, content etc. Game might be feature rich when all is said and done, but for me having to create my own fun and reason for playing is...just not fun.
Also if you're not interested in the game, and you're chiming in on a subject about the game you've admitted you won't buy, why are you even here? There are dozens of hand-holding and theme park style mmo's you could be involved in instead of wasting your time and ours.
I love that response, I see it all the time here on these forums and find it interesting that people seem to think that you must have an interest in a product in order to have an opinion. And to set the record straight, the lack of 3rd person view is the main reason for what caused me to steer clear away from this game well that and the ridculous price tag are a toss up for the main reason and the lack of content is a very close 2nd. If I see a subject header on the main page that piques my curiosity then I read it, whether I like/intend to purchase the game or not. And sometimes I respond. Now in my opinion using the FPS argument doesn't work, because it's a different Genre entirely. A majority of FPS do not fit with the theme of "RPG" that is also found in MMORPG. And with the exception of a few games out there, IE games like Oblivion, a majority of RPG's are 3rd person view, and I believe MO will find that most RPG players prefer 3rd person when they vote with their dollars to play elsewhere. (Which is why I believe is one of the reasons they have such a ridiculous price tag on the game, they need to charge so much more for the title, because it's a niche game and will not draw as many players as other titles out there.. and again this is my opinion, they are running out of funds to finish their product) |
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Originally posted by Angorim To answer your question, having both views would be pointless as third person would provide the tactical advantages and people would more than likely never use first person anyway.
So the answer is that if people want to play this game they are forced into using a view, that if there were an option they wouldn't use in the first place.....? Sounds like it speaks volumes for why 3rd person should be the focus of the game, and not vice versa.... I'll be honest though, I'm chiming in for no reason. I'm not going to buy the game, have no interest in a game with no story, quests, content etc. Game might be feature rich when all is said and done, but for me having to create my own fun and reason for playing is...just not fun. |
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"That's my stuff and no you can't see it!!!" Privacy a word with no meaning in mmos.
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/26/09 5:39:13 PM
Personally I thought part of the allure for playing MMO's was to show-case what you've acquired and achieved, whether it be alone or grouping...
With that said, I'm all for them removing the class description for our characters from our names/paper dolls etc. I don't feel a player should be able to hover their cursor over my avatar and see what I am...... With the exception, if maybe characters had a lore skill they could work on that would allow them to hover over a characters avatar to discern what class they are. |
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In your opinion: What was the dumbest MMO mechanic ever made?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/26/09 1:57:32 AM
Originally posted by LynxJSA
Same. My first big MMO was UO. All loot had relevance. More importantly, all loot was useful. There was no pristine rat hair or flimsy spider toenails.... no "junk loot." You got cheese and tinkering items from ratmen, spellcasting components (reagents) from magic casters, orc helms and chainmail from orcs, spears and daggers from the spear/dagger-wielding lizardmen.
But you also got gold from regular ole rats.... What hole did that come out of I wonder? |
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Since Darkfall has been established as the best game currently on the market...
General Discussion « Darkfall 11/22/09 10:09:31 PM
Hmm, maybe I'd say ignore DF's features, and give us content? |
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I'm not running WoW, but I am running M17X Nvidia 260M and I have no issues with LOTRO or Aion, which I think are more graphically intensive games.... So it would not surprise me if it's Blizz |
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More gender bending - voice chat filters
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/22/09 7:53:25 PM
Originally posted by SuperXero89
My point wasn't about the argument for or against altered voice chat filters, but for your explanation as to why players roll up fem alts... And the 'sympathy' factor has nothing to do with 'gender issues' within themselves. Personally I don't care about voice chat, my experiences on vent have not been good ones, it seems that there's always an asshole barking orders and upset when things don't go their way, so I avoid vent. |
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More gender bending - voice chat filters
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/22/09 5:41:35 PM
Originally posted by SuperXero89
So your reasons MUST be the only two reasons... It can't have anything to do with any of these possibilities: some male character models are hideous, the sympathy factor IE: it's easier to get help grouping/quests etc as a Fem character, most players give special treatment to Fem characters from farming/hunting tips, to actual monetary/item tips... |
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How could anyone choose the themepark over the sandbox?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/22/09 5:20:14 PM
Because it's not my job to create my own story, quests and content in an MMORPG. |
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I am sick and TIRED of reading text boxes!
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/18/09 10:07:15 PM
Originally posted by Elikal Then SW TOR will be more to your liking? |
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Originally posted by Hyanmen Not possible, Halo invented FPS. Doom is a Halo clone. L2 and WoW are surprisingly close to each other. As much as Aion is a L2 clone, it's a WoW clone as well.
Are you high, or just really young? Doom was a FPS in early 90's long before XBoX existed.... (1993) |
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Originally posted by seniorfrito
Yeah, these guys are just blowing smoke. I love when a new F2P/Asian/European game comes out. The trolls come out and say the same exact stuff every time. Then they log into their alts so it appears like multiple people are agreeing with them. LOL, just read the OP comment history. Nothing but negative nonsense. Hah and you know what I hate? I hate the stupid fanbois that get so excited over a game that they can't be reasoned with. You are so overwhelmed with the idea that this game will be good, that you can't see when games are actually bad. Like all the Aion fans that are still in denial. It's just sad. And to go as far as accusing people that they're logging into multiple accounts to say the same thing...Wow. So if multiple people have similar distaste in a game, surely they must be the same person? I hate to say this, but F2P/Asian/European games tend to be all the same. That is why you see the same stuff. People have a right to their opinion. Just as you have a right to yours. You don't see me going around trying to change your mind. I'm simply stating what I don't like about it. You're going above and beyond with the bashes.
Wow you are basically saying that the fanbois are closed minded and can't see when a game is bad, yet you are just as closed minded in your thinking that everyone should think the same as you. You know what they say about opinions, they are like assholes and everyone of them stinks, except for mine, I ate rose pedals today! :) |
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Have you ever played a free 2 play mmorpg that was actually FREE 2 PLAY longer than a few weeks My list of FREE 2 PLAY games that made the cut!
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 11/07/09 1:32:38 PM
Originally posted by xS0u1zx Wow, who pissed in your bowl of Wheaties? |
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Originally posted by arenasb
I agree, and a crafting overhaul wouldn't hurt. I'm playing Aion for both, and enjoying it so far. |
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I agree with the poster above, DDO is a good F2P title, as is GW, both are made by companies with a P2P background. I believe of the other F2P titles you've tried that Runes of Magic is the best, even though it is a 'MMORPG Clone' (Glad I didn't say the game that shall not be named?) :) As for the ones you haven't tried, give Sword of the New World a try. |
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One definition of quest is, NOUN: 1. The act or an instance of seeking or pursuing something; a search. quester What do you propose that gaming companies do with RPG's, if you don't want them to have quests? How would you know to pursue a specific relic/artifact if someone didn't tell you it existed in game? Who is supposed to tell you that it exists, what it does, why it would be good to acquire it, if not an NPC? The main storyline in itself is a quest, how would you know that a big bad baddy is trying to wipe out an entire region, country, race, if not for the the NPC that shares that story with you? As for the side quests, most of those are just ways to make easy money and acquire items as rewards... I say if you don't want/need those rewards, don't do the quest. Some folks seem to think that sandbox defines RPG... but in my view it doesn't, because the classic RPG has a story that a game master has to tell, which can be linear, but when the PC's start to stray the Game Master has to act on the fly to get things back in line with what's supposed to be happening... My experience with 'sandbox' MMORPG's is that there is very little in the way of story and quest, but that bored me because I didn't want to 'make things up as I went along'... UO is a perfect example, I really found little that kept my interest in that game, I liked crafting but basically all that game was to me was either a PvP, dungeon crawler, item grinding game, with a small group of Thee's and Thou's Role players... I've said it before in other posts, I didn't create the game so I shouldn't have to come up with my own story/quests and fun.
Just my view. |
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Why can't we just destroy an entire company, and everything in their records?.... That could be so much more fun.. IE: Goodbye SOE and every MMO under their umbrella... Or Goodbye Gpotato, Gala Net, NCSoft, Cryptic, Turbine, etc.
I'd destroy SOE, just so that all of the SOE subscribers would have to try out other games and then they'd realize there are games out there that basically play JUST like their SOE games, but many are ran by slightly more competent companies. |
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