All Posts by Distaste

Personally I think that WAR will be a huge game and will deliver on its promises of fun RvR that has a purpose. I don't expect anymore than that from the game. I don't expect mind blowing PvE, super glowy weapons that 1 hit people, etc. Anyone that expects more than RvR is simply misplacing their hopes. Anyone who thinks the game will be awful either hasn't paid attention to the game or expects something from that game that isn't intended. I don't play a baseball game expecting to play football.

As far as future hopes. Bioware will produce a very good MMO simply by judging their track record. Even if its KotOR, Mass Effect, or a new IP it will have good mechanics and probably be one of the most intricate MMO's to date. Blizzard is making a new MMO and as long as the current WoW dev team stays the hell away from it, it should be decent. The spy MMO from SOE(aka the Devil) looks interesting and with what they did to EQ2 it should be worth a look at. Aion looks pretty and since it already has some hype in the western market it must contain something of interest but I have yet to see it.

Originally posted by Vortigon

Anyone else like me maybe sitting on the fence as to whether they want in Beta or not?

Everytime I get in a Beta it takes the excitment off of the final release, rather than the buzz of getting in the game on release you are drip fed small doses of incompleteness via Beta.

Although I don't think I could ever actually resist taking part in Beta if an invite came my way. :)

btw I consider myself an almost perfect beta tester.  I am very aware I am there to test and I make sure I spend the vast majority of my time actually testing and reporting, probably have a few records for the most indepth beta bug reports LOL

So anyone else maybe not certain if they really want in Beta at this stage? (silly question heh)

I kind of thought the same thing but honestly I am far to bored to wait for release. I got invited to beta just today but I don't plan on playing 24/7 like I would on release with my friends. I am going to take it easy and enjoy testing the game and leave the real exploring to release. Friends also make a big difference so unless they get into beta as well it will be a lone wolf experience for me.

WAR open beta means 3 things. 1. No NDA, it may be dropped before this but Open Beta wont be under NDA 2. Computer Requirements will be dropped meaning all those people complaining about winning a contest and not getting in closed beta can play 3. Limited number of spots available with CE preorders taking 60k of them, contest winners taking another chunk, previous testers another, and the rest being a random drawing.

Other open betas open up to everyone and their brother and is based on first come first serve. That is why WAR is not really an Open beta. There are still limits and people will be selected randomly.

At first when i read the title I thought you were talking about a hooker...

Anyways I like graphics as much as the next guy but I am still waiting for the post release fix patches to come out before I think about getting AoC let alone upgrading to see its graphics.  As long as your happy it is a good purchase.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

Originally posted by khartman2005

 

would you idiots please stop calling games WoW clones. WoW copied just about every damned MMO before it. It was not the first nor the best MMO. It has a high subscription rate because it is playable on damn nearly every piss poor pc out there.

 

LotRO is not a wow clone but it does have some similarities just like WoW has similarities to other games.

OP LotRO was the smoothest and flawless launch of an mmo ever. It set the standard on how to launch a MMO. AoC comes in 2nd in my opinion.

And I am pissed off with people that don't know Wow anymore since patch 2.3.

 

WoW/TBC has changed so much it is now in a whole other ball game than the other MMO's.

TBC launched so much more than 'just another 10 levels".

Wow is no longer a lineair traditional MMORPG that goes from dungeon to dungeon like it used to be like in Vanilla Wow. In that respect yes Wow was a copy of what existed.

But times change and read  why Eurogamer gave 10/10 in a recent re-review of present day Wow.

I DO agree that LOTRO had the smoothest launch, but it launched 4 months after TBC and therefore only was a copy cat of the old Wow (those without BG's, competitve Arena's, seamless flying worlds you could land everywhere, 25 dailies , heroic dungeons and professions that were profitable,...).

LOTRO also PROVED you could have better graphics and STIIL have seamless open worlds.

Something on which Conan completely fails (big!). Both in loading screens AND "death by loading zones ganks"

WoW hasn't changed at all. It is still using the same basic "do it again" design and is slowly getting worse. Look at WotLK. Do it again design at its finest. Naxx as the first instance, 25man instances are also 10 man instances!

As for AoC launch, it hasn't launched yet. Early access never counts as launch day but I have a sneaking suspicion that MMO companies are finally learning to test their systems thoroughly and place an appropriate server cap on them even it its a low cap for the first few days.

Originally posted by Crusher

Originally posted by Druchiii

You may be right but again..YOU will still play it..correct?

If It's a "real" Warhammer game at release, no doubt. If not .... no.

Within the WAR fanboy community there are to camps. The DAOC lovers, and the Warhammer lovers. I'm expecting a WH game, the other side DAOC 2.

Wrong, very wrong! DAoC lovers are one, Warhammer fans are another, and PvP fans are another. I have never played DAOC but I have been informed about it. I have never read or played anything related to Warhammer either. I think WAR will be the next big game simply but the information that Mythic provides about game mechanics. It looks to make for a FUN PvP game.

Anyone that thinks gore makes or breaks the game has serious issues that I can't even begin to describe. Real PvPers look for game mechanics and balance. I have never once heard "I wish stabbing  a Nelf in the face would cover me in blood" but I have heard "XXXXX Mechanic sucks! XXXXX is to overpowered".  If you really want to see what mechanics can do to a game go check out SWG.

Well I don't see a big grind so that really discounts the people that get bored/tired/frustrated with leveling to bot. Most of the good stuff is gained through unlocks/pvp/etc so botting wont help there and would be easily recognizable. Money will be a touchy subject until we see how the economy works. If it is how I believe it will be then money wont be all that important. You will buy some potions, repair, etc but there wont be a big goal like WoW's Epic Ground and Epic Flying Mounts.

Originally posted by Lokero

 

Originally posted by zaxxon23

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

 

So you think.  I recall going up against them in L2, trust me, they will be more than capable of defending themselves.  Its a business to them, afterall, you're just an amateur.

 

Which makes them just as much a player as the next person.  They have to work up their character, get good gear, and otherwise play the game just like anyone else.  Otherwise they're just another pushover.

As such, I want to kill them just as much as any other player.  :)

I completely agree with you, zaxxon.  Speaking from my experience with the farmers in WoW(which was the big farm game at one time, before Blizzard went ban crazy), most of them were a joke and quite easy to kill.

 

Generally, the farmers were undergeared, because they were out to make money, and sold the majority of the stuff they got.  Most of them were running around in really crappy gear.  Profits come first, after all.

On another note, I think the farmers spent more time fighting each other than they did fighting the average player.  I can't count the number of times I saw farmers competing with each other...

I never played L2, so I can't comment on how things were there, just speaking of what I encountered and saw go down in WoW.

You realize that a large portion of "farmers" in WoW were bots.  There was no point gearing up the toons to defend themselves when no one was around to make the defense viable.  So they take the death, bot runs back, and  life goes on.  WoW also provided many safe havens for the farmers. Anyone remember DM West book farmers? Or DM north King teleporters? The new thing is teleporting in SLabs.

AoC already has hacks out and gold farmers will abuse them into the ground unless Funcom comes up with a way to detect them. Blizzard never stopped the hacks so I am thinking Funcom doesn't have a chance either.  $75 for a game and an account pales in comparison of the amount of money they can farm in the time it takes to get them banned. If by some miracle funcom does keep them down that means the price of gold will go up and we all know that the gold farmer go where the money is.

Originally posted by Crusher

 

Originally posted by Player_420

I  can safely say it gets gritty

 

I'm pretty sure WAR will be M-rated in the end, with blood, gore etc. to compete with AOC. Cause if so, then WAR it gonna be a serious threat againt AOC (i'm a big fan of AOC right now).

WAR will not be M rated. It came straight from Mark Jacobs mouth on Warhammer Alliance forums that they are making a T rated game. I don't think the gore will be a deciding factor in the WAR vs AoC battle, it will come down to game mechanics and how the game plays out.

Some blood here and there is good but as soon as you cross into the Mortal Kombat realm of huge fountains, head sized globules,  and pools 10x larger than the person it is just freaking cheesy. I believe that AoC has crossed this realm with fatalities.

As for people saying that making it rated M wont lose that many subscribers? Last I heard teens make up 25% of the MMO market. Count in the fact that pvp games generally don't attract the female gamers which will limit the top end age range since as age increases the number of female gamers increases while the males decrease. So would you be willing to cut out 25% of the market? Sure you might lose a few people who crave blood/gore but would it be near 25%?

I believe that you will be able to enter the RvR area without becoming a chicken but once you try and attack someone then you will go "poof".

Gotta say that is a really smart move. That is one thing that Blizzard never did and will probably garner a bigger customer base from that region. It sucks trying to play with a game with awful ping.

First Off I would love to see how many of those people are in the US and EU. The rest of those numbers can just be disregarded because the Asian market has a different payment system and if I remember correctly (don't quote me) they didn't even pay for the expansion. If we start counting the Asian market then prepare for the item mall games that have 20-70 million accounts. 1 asian game can crush the numbers that the NA/EU market puts out.

They wont make the end of 2008 for the expansion and if they do it will be the worst thing they have ever done. The BC expansion had already had beta signups in march 2006. Beta started in like september. They JUST went into alpha and have stated that no raid bosses, except the ones they are reusing LOL, have been made yet.  Figure 4 months for beta testing and since there is no beta signup yet and judging by their past actions we can guess that the time from beta signups to beta testing is 6 months ish. Even cutting that estimate in half we are left we 7 months. They would need to release beta signups next month and start testing in september. Blizzard is ALWAYS late and never early.

Originally posted by wjrasmussen

Originally posted by GreenChaos

 

Originally posted by earthhawk

1. Is WAR going to be worth quitting your favorite game to pay and play? For me not really. I've been playing WoW for several years. I enjoy it, I play with 'real life' friends, 'online' friends, and have multiple 70s.  For now I can't see quiting my current game to start the long ardous trek again.

.....

 

Gaming should not be a "long arduous trek".  That's what jobs are for.

Some of us don't care about how high our levels are.  We just want a fun game.

So do want you want.
Many of us are in between MMOs right now, so it's not an issue.
 

Wintering over in Antarctica is arduous.  Most jobs are not.

Under one definition wintering in Antarctica would most definitely be arduous since it is difficult. Most jobs are indeed arduous to the person working them. It can be mentally or physically difficult to do the same thing day in and day out. Since it is difficult then that would place it in line with being arduous.

The first quest in any mmo will always be something simple. WoW was go talk to this guy and that guy gave you a kill quest to kill skeletons, boars, or plain striders for horde.  10 minutes? I can spend 10 minutes just looking at stats and all the other little screens that you can look at. SWG  you used to have to wait 10 minutes just for a transport! If 10 minutes out of  years of fun is the downside then by all means I am sold.

As for the starting quest. Well you just invaded the High Elf land and you are attacking them. Obviously the first wave of defenders will be those around which would probably be sailors. The fairies are a question yet unanswered. Maybe they help the high elfs? Maybe they are really a third party viaing for control of the elven lands? Who knows but killing fairies doesn't sound bad, the sound of a fairie getting hit with my halberd is music to my pointy ears.

2 skills? LOL.  Thats part of the growth in an MMO. You gain more skills, power, and stats. Thats like playing a fps and complaining you don't have a better gun right away,

Originally posted by Pheace

 

Originally posted by kitsunegirl

Just wait, when Wowhammer goes to open beta around the same time it gets close to going retail. All the former war-fanbois with be hissing and spitting about how much they hate the game. It happens *all* the time.

 

 

It's amazing how much they've given up already if you think about it.

 

Over 50% of some of the most vocal people (not here necessarily) exclaimed they'd never ever play a game with instanced PvP again and how horrible it was for a PvP game when it was still exclusive to WoW, it should be open blah blah blah

 

And then after WAR announced it it was suddenly "as long as it's not the same as WoW".

 

Just look around. You'll be amazed how often you hear that argument. They don't really care what it is, as long as it's not the same as WoW. As long as their game is not WoW because they didn't like that and neither should you :)

It wasn't 50% it wasn't even close to that and to back that up you can check my sources which just so happen to be the same as yours. That being said it was really a vocal minority that said they wouldn't play without world pvp. More than a few were a bit upset that Mythic who had great world pvp would section off WAR to instances. Thats understandable because thats what some people want. They have forums and will complain because they can. Its like the people at work when a boss threatens to put in a new rule. They threaten to quit but in the end the rule goes through and they do nothing. It is just a last ditch effort to stop something you have little control over.

The as long as it isn't WoW thing sounds simple but backing are reasons that are honestly good reasons. I am sure more than a few people have something they despise about wow and somethings they liked. A few reasons that WAR being like WoW would be bad: PvE Focused, BG instanced PvP, Unbalanced Classes, broken caster system, Elitest content, No World PvP, No reason to PvP, esport arena where composition means everything. Just a few off the top of my head.

Many people started playing WoW with the belief that it would have city raids, tons of PvP, and a good PvP reward system.  It never happened and now it has gotten worse with arena games. SO is it really a bad thing that people don't want it to be like WoW in those respects? I don't think it is and I hope that WAR will become the pvp game that many have been earning for.

Originally posted by KckStrt

just looking at my downloads form Amazon and have noticed that my codes expire June 08.... What is up with that.  The codes originally exp in Dec 08/09, but now 2 say they exp in June.   Oh.. and I had to reorder the game (CE) as Amazon cancelled my order after I ok'd the extended releease date...  

Maybe the EU amazon was different but the US amazon ALWAYS had the codes expiring on June 9th. I ordered it within the first hour of it going live so unless they changed it after that...

Blackgaurd we know next to nothing about and has not been tested in beta. Same for the Knights of the Blazing sun. Magus was pulled for some odd reason and has been absent from the lastest conventions. ALL greenskin/dwarves have not been tested since certain things have changed.

So while only 1 class remains to be unveiled it is actually an entire pairing and 4 classes that still need to be tested under the new systems. Go check out the beta blog things they post, all information is there or should I say lack of info.

Originally posted by altairzq

Open Beta?

Open Beta= No NDA  Contest winners, games day attendees, CE Pre-Orders

Here is the deal. No add-ons are 100% needed to raid. However, more than a few boss encounters are designed around the idea that the mods do exist. Chrommagus and one of the first bosses in Naxx come to mind with decursive being a near must have. Are those encounters possible without the mod? Yes but for the average guild it will end in tragedy. Take a boss like Voidreaver. He is cake as long as you can manage your aggro, if you can't then melee gets destroyed when he runs to ranged, add on the fact that he has an enrage timer so for guilds that are maybe geared just enough to beat him they can't stop and wait for aggro, they have to just DPS.

Mods are made to make things that were annoying easier. Bosses with enrage timers all go against the waiting for aggro. Bosses where timed events happen(Leo human/demon) all go against being modless because without a timer on those things DPS slows down to a crawl or they get murdered. You take away the few mods that are "needed" for raiding and you wont see 75% of the guild progression you do.

As for trojans and stolen accounts. Make sure all of your passwords are different on everything. Guild forums or game forums all have to store your password into a database so if you use the same login info on them the admin can snag them or a hacker. Also using things like adblocker and no script on firefox can help a lot. Never install ANY add-on that is a .exe and don't use the auto-update addon services.

The shadowl\ab thing is because gold farmers use teleport hacks to get all of the mining/herbs and treasure chests in there then use your account to sell them. Not sure if they sell them cheap to a  3rd account that then sells for the real price or not.

Also! The hackers can't just change the email so you never know unless they have your email hacked as well. Blizzard sends a notification of email change that the current email address has to then varify. Blizzard also sends out emails to notify you if the subscription is changed, personal information is updated/changed, password changed, and for all the different services(char transfer, name change, etc). Your account is near impossible to reactivate without you knowing about it.

Originally posted by Samuraisword

One word, "carebear", describes the death penalty.

Only to a person who has no pride.