Well done!  It really makes me realize all the silliness in Skyrim, even though I think it is easily game of the year. 

In general, most DLC is not worth it IMO.  I would even go as far to say that it is a scam from a sales stand point.  They typically get the kiddies who are using mom and dads credit cards to buy stuff that they don't really know the value in since they don't actually have a real income themselves.  Companies know that this is often the case and they will pump stuff out in order to get the extra cash.  For those adults who buy it well then they are typically big fans of the game and I don't have much of a problem with it.  They know what they are paying for. 

Personally, I don't do much DLC due based on principle.  But occaisonally there is DLC that is worth it and deserves the extra cash.

Originally posted by Requiem6

MMO doesn't need to learn from Skyrim, or even Dark soul.

Because if a game like Skyrim and Dark Soul would really become a MMORPG, it would just be bad and suck. It wouldn't end-up well.

 

Let the great single player game stay single player game, before someone scrap them.

 

Thanks.

I agree.  I think the OP was saying that the open, large world from Skyrim needs to be emulated.  At least that's what I am hoping, since the gameplay wouldn't obviously work in an MMO setting.

I love the skill based open world though in Elder Scrolls.

Originally posted by Kabaal

People do Rubik's Cubes in 5 to 10 seconds.

Fantastic analogy.  I think Skyrim to be beaten in that amount of time would take considerable knowledge of the the entire game.  Not going to talk me out of buying this epic release.  Elder Scrolls has too good of a reputation for me not to give it a go.

I just can't bet against Skyrim.  I feel if there was a decision to be made that would be my choice.  I feel that The Elder Scrolls is more proven at this point and therefore the safe bet. 

It is probably my favorite aspect of RPGs.  It's too bad that it is often neglected.

Simple, move on to the next.  I'm not too big into the extra DL content.

This game has a lot of potential.  They are going to have to market it big time though.  It doesn't have the Elder Scrolls or Fable name where people just buy it based on the prestige.  They are going to have to really showcase this game and get the trust of the people, as there have been way to many busted RPGs released in the past.

I've been following this game for a while now and I really like what I'm seeing.  I'm still skeptical though.

I think it's interesting, but people would be quiting right and left out of frusteration and therefore a bad ploy for the game.  It just wouldn't fly, but it is definately getting closer to how it should be.

I tried to get back into it a few months ago.  I found that I was so lost that it wasn't even close to being fun.  A lot has changed so you will really have to have patience with the new content.  I felt like they had such an issue with balancing all the time that the changes came to rapidly and really hurt the gameplay for me. 

In fact, I was recently cleaning out my closet and found the CE box with all the gear.  I didn't even bother trying to sell it, I just pitched all of it.  Including the little model of Grumack and Gasbag lol.  The game was way over hyped for my taste.  If you are going to give it a second chance you will find that there has been massive changes in the combat.  Not for the better IMO.

I am mostly against pre-ordering MMOs, just because I have been burnt too many times.  Furthermore, the collectable items and all that stuff usually doesn't matter much to me to justify the price.  And a game that allows those who pre-order to have a serious advantage over other customers just seems wrong in theory and is indicitive that they are just trying to make all their money up front because they don't have faith in their product. 

As far as pre-ordering console games, I am all for it.  Of course I just do the five bucks down at Gamestop or something like that.  You get great additional content for not having to pay extra money and it's a game you are certain you are going to be buying anyway.  Of course everyone is doing this now so it's important to shop around to find the best deal.

But I would strongly suggest you don't pre-order MMOs, or at least wait as long as you can to get a fair assessment on the game and pre-order the last week available.  If it's a game you know you are going to give a shot no matter what then I suppose you might as well go for it, but I'd recommend not paying the extra cash for the SE.  Thanks a lot Warhammer Online lol.

I played during beta and found the game to be a dumbed down, easier version to play version of every other MMORPG that is on the market.  Nothing was impressive about it at all.  This doens't surprise me tha they moved to F2P.  It was definately the right move.  For those who love the Lego environment though I would say it's worth playing.

Fair enough.  I think the Star Wars universe is just more appealing than the typically fantasy world.  But I agree with your argument.  I'm not sure if both will be able to be sucessful.

Not a problem.  There's nothing out there worth it for me to waste too much time on.  However I can say that I have recently reallly enjoyed playing UO Second Age.  But other than that there really isn't much.  Heck I prefer console right now.

It doesn't surprise me.  They have done their own thing for decades and it has always worked out for them, but that time is coming to an end.  Their next gen system will likely crash and burn in when Xbox and Sony put out their next systems Nintendo will receive the death blow that has been inevitable. 

I actually would like to see it flop.  I feel that until these companies figure out that the typical WoW clones do not sustain long term subscriptions that we will continue to see the same old crap.  SWTOR looks like a promising game and they have done an amazing job with the PR and advertising, but in the end it is the same old stuff that actually has a logical end in a genre that I feel was intended to never have an end. 

Time will tell.  I find it interesting that Ulitma Online is still making a profit and it was released in 1997 and is extremely disadvantaged in most every category except for the one that really matters, it's a true sandbox, skill-based MMO.  That should mean something to these gaming companies.  I feel like SWTOR will do well initially, but will quickly loose subscriptions as the gaming industry rapidly evolves.  Only speculation.

I'd go back if it was how it was in 1998 or so.  I have tried the demo from time to time recently and I can't say that I'd recommend anyone playing at this point.  It's just not the same and it is very aged.  Only if it went back to its roots.

I'd agree with that.  I feel PC games have taken a back seat during this generation of games.  Console offers a lot more as far as the flow of gaming.  I prefer sitting back on my couch with a controller in hand and don't like using a keyboard and mouse to play a fps or rpg that will take hours of a day in chunks.