The early weapon models are not important and I bet you have not seen the later, rare ones.

Originally posted by vernd

I think more than just a few Order folks are going to be dismayed when they see their tank options are a dwarf or a fragile looking elf. Though there will of course be people who realize the avatar matter much less than the class mechanics.

Whats up with the dwarf hate? Dwarfs ROCK !! AND THEIR MOUNT MAKES YOU GIGGLE !

Mythics solution right now are multiple PQs in each chapter. I agree that a scaleable system would be great but then I do not think we can judge the current system based on the preview weekend or beta servers.

Things might get ugly at launch but influence comes in really fast in the first PQs so people won't hang out there too long.

OP you are a tool and I salute you for coming up with this analyzes of the misplaced text and the other ... things.

Originally posted by SideTraKd

Originally posted by Hydrakana

You obviously have not played every mmo release if you found the self clicking mechanic hard (target self) to control...it's used in a few mmo's and is not bad in any way whatsoever.  Only a novice selects mobs with the pointer, thats what the targeting hot keys are for.

 

Targetting hot keys I use constantly for mobs that are close or for assists, but anyone would know that tab targetting through 50 different mobs to get the one you want near the back is not the way to go, especially in PvP/RvR.  But it wasn't so much the fighting that makes self-clicking annoying.  It's looting and interacting with environmental objects where it truly becomes a pain, especially if the item is small.  Always having to adjust the camera angle just right to get close enough to an object and click it, instead of yourself.  And the area that the game engine considers to be "you" is quite wide, which has resulted in my avatar being selected numerous times when my mouse wasn't really near it.

And there is NO reason whatsoever I would ever need to click on myself.  Some classes or players may need it, but a ranged DPS with no healing skill doesn't.  It needs to be able to be toggled.

 

That said, it isn't game breaking.  I'm not giving up my pre-order, and I will still be having an active sub.

The AI, however, may end up being a problem... 

I agree with you but have to point out ONE reason you want to click yourself!

/drumroll

You get a title for clicking yourself 100 times!! (Its true)

To be more serious I am sure there will be an option to disable self-clicking and I am sure pathing and monster AI will get better. Let's just hope they get it right I have faith in them.

Of course it offers roleplaying possibilities but I don't think it will be the game RPlayers should be excited about. It is all about the conflict between Chaos&Order, the war is everywhere and I doubt there will be alot of room for diverse roleplaying.

Myself, I will enjoy playing my role in the WAR.

Originally posted by sgel

Originally posted by Mattissimo

Originally posted by sgel

Originally posted by Tenebrion

There are two people that won't like Warhammer : WOW Fanbois, and Sandbox fanbois.

 

The OP is obviously a WOW fanboi.

 

people who don't want to constanly PvP

people who don't want another elves+goblins game

people who don't like many things

people who like many things that aren't on WAR

etc etc

 

seriously... your argument is ridiculous...

 

Just stay away from the game if you dont like the setting, ruleset or RVR.

Im not into space-mmos but does that mean I should fill the EVE forums with jibberish?

 

if my opinion is jibberish to you that's your opinion... thanks for the compliment though.
I like fantasy games... and I wanted to like WAR... I like something about it... and somethings I don't...
I feel like discussing it with people who do... trying to get something out and maybe changing my mind about somethings.... why is that a problem for you?
 

Sorry ... sgel ... I mixed up ... some posts ... please ... do not ... hurt ... me.

Its just that comments like "uh Im bored with my life", "I'm sick of elves" or calling the RVR a mindless zergfest do not help anybody and are kinda annoying but I do get your point!

Originally posted by sgel

Originally posted by Tenebrion

There are two people that won't like Warhammer : WOW Fanbois, and Sandbox fanbois.

 

The OP is obviously a WOW fanboi.

 

people who don't want to constanly PvP

people who don't want another elves+goblins game

people who don't like many things

people who like many things that aren't on WAR

etc etc

 

seriously... your argument is ridiculous...

People should just stay away from the game if they dont like the setting, ruleset or RVR.

Originally posted by thekid1

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by thekid1

Originally posted by Emotions

First off I doubt it will dent wow population cause wow is still growing.
Second, if you read up on the forums you would know that pvp players from wow don't like the "slow" combat in this game. So I doubt those people will come here.

My gueses this game will get about 2 million max people (hopefully more)

And no it is not a wow killer. Cause wow is to casual based pve and warhammer is more of a casual/hardcore based pvp game.

 

2 Million?
Everquest 2 and Lord of the rings online only have about 200k.
Half a million would already be extremely positive.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html
 

My bet is 100k in six months because there is only PVP and PVE and nothing else to do.

 

OK only pvp AND pve? what the fuck else is there? crafting?they have that and they are actually doing it the right way, letting us only make stuff that is good for the WAR effort (Potions, enchantments so far).

Oh and Lotro only has 200k-300k due to lack of endgame content that will change with Mines of moria.

I see Lotro hitting 500k easily.

Lets try to keep in mind that WoW is a freak of nature, in reality having 200k+ subs is great for a MMO.

I can see WAR doing 1-2 million subs in the first year plus, after than it depends on blizzard and Biowares next MMO.

Exactly, the whole game is based towards PVP. No noteworthy economy and crafting at all, which I consider a huge part of a mmorpg. This is a game for people who like to PVP whole day long, and do some pve when they get bored or do some "crafting".
I just don't see a big market for that.

 

Well WOW is a huge success and only offers meaningless crafting and no economy worth mentioning, on top of that you have crowded meaningless BGs and fans of the meaningless arena bragging rights thingy.

Originally posted by zippy123

WAR should pop over 1 million subs easy without Asia, probably closer to 2 million. Most of your PvP players from WoW will come to WAR, the hard core PvE boys will stay in WoW.

Now the staying power of WAR is the thing, will there be enough new content and so forth to keep it going and interesting is to me the big question.

 

They are backed up by EA so I see no reason to expect lack of support. I too think it will draw away most of the WOW PVP crowd and do very well.

I see AOC's biggest flaws in the foundation of the game.

Melee combo system (which actually gets horrible in later levels) versus the boring casting.

Instancing is way too heavy and the instances themselves are boring, lack everything and offer nothing.

Overemphasis on graphics which alot of systems cannot handle well.

Just to name 3 things on top of my head .. worst piece of software I bought lately.

The thing is, there is so much broken in this game that one would not know where to begin.

Everybody enjoyed the first 20 levels but soon or later you should see plenty of flaws! The zones/paths are laid out horrible, have no real points of interesent  and serve no purpose. Prime example would be the border kingdoms beeing exact copies of the ressource/city maps but yet you there is nothing you can do there not even gathering.

How cheap is that?!

The imbalance between classes and in general between melee/casters is horrible... horrible. PVP is a "one-shot-fest" and again serves no real purpose.  The raid instances were bugged in the beginning but matured from unplayable/exploitable to downright boring and uninspired content. Melee combat in general gets overcomplicated at later levels while magic combat is just the same old same old.

The community on my server was exceptionally spamming hardcore rude language in the global chats and we got no moderation on the german servers, it was scary and crazy.

Oh yea  what about the sexbuff?!