Hmz, it is hard to break it down to just one moment because I had such a great time in this game.

PVP, when our player city on dantooine was under heavy attack by the opposite faction and we struggled the whole night trying to fight them off when suddenly an imperial dropship deployed like 20 hardcore troopers right on top of the city - it was a slaughter and we never figured out if it happend randomly or a GM event or whatever..

Grinding skills with my jedi beeing on the edge looking for bounty hunters, I remember that sneaky wookie circling around my position for like 15mins and when he finally engaged I totally onehitted him.

Or just dueling fellow jedis at remote places.

Crafting, surveying for the best resources and deploying sh*tloads of harvesters to make some cash and experience with the crafting system to make the best food in the galaxy with my master chef!

Selling your stuff in  your own shop, in your own house, in your own city!

Hanging out in the cantinas getting buffs from the entertainers, standing in a long line at the starports to buy those mandatory master doc buffs .. it was all fun to me!

WIS (Walking In Stations) is coming and it looks great www.youtube.com/watch.

I am having a really hard time waiting for all the good stuff coming to EVE this year.

Not sure if they will introduce aliens of the kind you are looking for but they will introduce worm holes and unexplored new space and stuff there .. check out the fanfest 2008 videos.

Originally posted by Azrile

I really don't even think Warhammer was unfinished or unready.    The major problems with warhammer are all it's basic design decisions.   Scenarios too rewarding,  defending BO's and keeps worthless.  So not only do you have the vast majority of players grinding scenarios, but even those that do oRvR just swap keeps rather then actually fight over them.

But the thing that really drove me away from Warhammer was just the clunky and unresponsive combat.  You couldn't time things, you couldn't be precise.. you just ran in smashing buttons and stuff fired +/- 1 second of when you thought it wsa going to.   In the 'other game', I could use an insta-cast to interrupt the other guys 1sec cast spell.   In warhammer, I never felt like I could react to what was happening.. i just did my thing and hoped it worked out well.

While I totally respect and share your issues with the game, one could say those missing "features" or far from perfect gameplay is what makes the game "unready".

They already improved the combat responsive and the new patch promises a major update on this subject.

I am pretty sure the entire ORVR campaign will get enhanced too but that will take some time. Nobody can honestly think the current situtation is Mythic's vision for the game after DAOC.

Right now I see no reasons to login but I'm confident it will be a solid game after some more patchwork is done because WAR actually offers alot to enjoy and cool features like the classes, the artwork, the tome of knowledge, the trophies, leveling up in a PVP environment, the cities .. it just needs time and money, Mythic go both.

Good:

"Tome of Knowledge" is very well implented, a nice addition packed with lore and progression infos.

Bad:

Pairing imbalances, for example on Empire vs. Chaos the humans have hardly any tanks in RVR/scenarios or PQs. Probably will get better after release when guilds&groups are forming and playing together.

Originally posted by Deridium

Originally posted by Mattissimo

Originally posted by Auxer

got to love the fanbois jumping in.

 

its his review and if you act a bit mature and write in a way that is not laughable perhaps you would get a better resposne. just my 2 cents

 

I am pointing out the OP does not know what he is talking about and deeply apologize for using rude language on our divine mmorpg boards.

If you want me to provide numbers to make your contribution to this thread look even more pathetic I will do it for you.

On his way to lv40 a "Black Ork" recieves 22 skills, 15 tactics and 8 morale abilities alone at the career trainer. Through mastery training another 3 skills, 3 tactics and one morale ability. Additionally there is the renown trainer with another truckload of tactics and stats customization.

Certain buffs will allow special usable abilities too.

You are able to equip 4 morale abilites, 5 different tactics (which are passive btw) and your regular arsenal at max level and the only reason to complain about the lack of skills or customization I can think of is that you played too much EVE.

Now I have not tried the engineer myself but I'd say some classes play more "complex" than others, try another long range DD maybe you will like those better. For example the "Squig Herder" is able todo crazy things with the Squig.

 

 

 

If you would care to read the OPs first few rows again perhaps you will realise why you just look, well no offence here but, stupid. He never claims to know all or jump on anyone like you are doing here, he has written a review on what he has experienced. And if you lack the ability to understand that others think different from you perhaps you should not reply at all.

 

I dont agree with a lot of the stuff he thinks or what he has agreed, but guess what, I dont whine about it and start trashtalking him for that. We are all different, learn that and you will prolly get better social skills.

 

Tada

 

ps. yes, a bit grumpy today, tierd of fanbois who think their way is the only way and so on. Sorry all.

So what you say is, if I visit the other forums and write reviews claiming that, for example, LOTRO lacks quests or that AOC has awesome end-game-content, people should not post and proof the opposite?

Now that would be a really great discussion forum.

Originally posted by Auxer

got to love the fanbois jumping in.

 

its his review and if you act a bit mature and write in a way that is not laughable perhaps you would get a better resposne. just my 2 cents

I am pointing out the OP does not know what he is talking about and deeply apologize for using rude language on our divine mmorpg boards.

If you want me to provide numbers to make your contribution to this thread look even more pathetic I will do it for you.

On his way to lv40 a "Black Ork" recieves 22 skills, 15 tactics and 8 morale abilities alone at the career trainer. Through mastery training another 3 skills, 3 tactics and one morale ability. Additionally there is the renown trainer with another truckload of tactics and stats customization.

Certain buffs will allow special usable abilities too.

You are able to equip 4 morale abilites, 5 different tactics (which are passive btw) and your regular arsenal at max level and the only reason to complain about the lack of skills or customization I can think of is that you played too much EVE.

Now I have not tried the engineer myself but I'd say some classes play more "complex" than others, try another long range DD maybe you will like those better. For example the "Squig Herder" is able todo crazy things with the Squig.

Yes at level 3 the classes lack skills, thanks for the review.

Honestly, what the hell? If I would have counted  basic abilities, morales and tactics plus the renown and specialization skills you can obtain back on my rank 31 template .. well fuck that, you guys are crazy uninformed.

Originally posted by BigMango

I will try WAR out some more (I have only played a dark elf). What is in your opinions the best looking starting area, so I can roll a new char there.

Definately Chaos and check out the two cities, good stuff.

Originally posted by Niblix

Well, Mythic aren't the best at balancing. It is DAoC all over again only with 2 sides and not 3.

Have they introduced the 'band aid' population bonuses yet? Extra RP's, XP and Cheaper Keep upkeep?

*cries because his copy of Spore hasn't been delivered yet*

I noticed some bonuses on my order toon the other day when population was still low and the ratio was pretty screwed up, something like 20% extra on pretty much everything.

Originally posted by Faelan

The animations, effects and model faces are mediocre at best. Some are down right atrocious (unless you enjoy looking like a 50 year old who hasn't slept for two weeks, has been through a meatgrinder and got a totempole shoved up his rear end). The rest is fine and will probably look even better with the full retail client.

Animations and effects are just not perfectly sync'd yet (sometimes they are even broken). If they keep on making progress on this subject like they did with the latest patches we can expect a much smoother experience at launch - of course there is no guarantee.

Your comment about the faces is purely subjective.

Yes, yes and yes.

I suggest you to not believe a single word (that includes me) people are posting here, wait for the official release and read reviews written by professionals. Of course some will be worthless but overall it will be a better standard of information.

 PS : I play on the euro servers like many others, some servers are full already.

Originally posted by gorecki

Originally posted by Mattissimo

We need more reviews by people who played the game up to lv8, bash the WOW similarities and the combat system. Thx man thats a worthless read.

How did you like the renown system, city levels, zone control system,tactics,morale abilities,guild features and stuff? Oh you dont know jack about this game ..

Sorry it was such a worthless read that you chose to read and reply to it

I have no positive or negative feelings at all about you liking the game.  It's great that it works for you, so I'm not sure why it irks you so much to find somebody that has a differing opinion...

Go!  Be happy and play!

 

Why should I not reply? I do it for the same reason you wrote this review.

If you have no negative or positive feelings about the key features of the game maybe its too much for you to comprehent and you should stick with playing AV for another 4 years.

I am playing, thx for the suggestion.

We need more reviews by people who played the game up to lv8, bash the WOW similarities and the combat system. Thx man thats a worthless read.

How did you like the renown system, city levels, zone control system,tactics,morale abilities,guild features and stuff? Oh you dont know jack about this game ..

First, he did not insult the community. He pointed out some people crossed a line and commented in a manner he did not expect.

Second, you missed only one day of open beta so far. There will be a server wipe before the headstart so what did you actually lost? Shit happens, you will get over it.

Third, if you really wanted to play so badly you should have tried harder. I was able to register a new account and my key so could you. Unfortunately it took like 10 hours and hundreds of timeouts but in the end it worked.

Oh and fourth, I think you crybabies fail at life and played too much WoW instead of going to school and stuff.

That is an insult.

/bump

There must be some serious EU order guilds! Show yourself!

Originally posted by Moroth

I agree you don't have to be innovative but you have to be better.  My question is how will this be better.  I can see RVR being fun but I don't know that I would keep paying for it after 30 days if it becomes reprtitive.  There will need to be a variety of things done well to keep my interest.  I can't see playing an MMO for just one thing but maybe I'm wrong.

 RVR will be fun because of numerous features, for example keep sieging, guild standards/standard bearers,renown ranks/equipment/tactics/moral abilities,city levels/sieging..

Plus there will be PVE (Questing,Raiding,Dungeons,PQs) too and it will be embedded in some way or another into the RVR.

Personally I like the setting, gfx and gameplay too.

What more could I ask for?

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by Rebn77

On my LotRO Minstrel:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 rinse, repeat

On my VG Cleric:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7 rinse, repeat

On my AoC demonologist:

4,5,6,7,8,9 rinse, repeat

On my AoC dark templer:

4,1,5,2,6,3,7,2,1 rinse, repeat

WOW! Look how much more advanced AoCs combat is! OMG!  And let's not forget Graphics > Game Play baby! Yeah! I'd rather stare at a hot female toon in a crappy game than a not so hot female toon in an awesome game! 

They have you guys so brain washed it isn't even funny . 

 

Which is why I only play one MMORPG. It doesn't really matter which one, they are all alike. I play it until I get bored, cancel my account for a few months, then play again for a few months.

I don't buy/play any other MMORPGs, don't need to. The formula is always rinse and repeat.

Doesn't matter if it POTBS, AOC, or WAR. They are all the same, just with different graphics. It's kinda like racing games, they are all the same, car go fast, car slow, car turn, car go fast again. Or the real time strategy game, 5X's. Or FPS'er.

Just doesn't matter. You played one, you played them all.

 

I call that bullshit man, mmos differ greatly and its about emotions not the combat system.

Some get a rush by progressing in raid content, others enjoy roleplaying and some others want to "overpown" other players but nobody talks about the combat system at the end of the day.

I really hope they manage to let us euros be part of this.

Originally posted by TeamFortress

One general comment.

WOW adjusts his award end game play system for every player (new or old) (casual or hardcore) in a new cycle of 6 months. Everyone motivated, everyone happy. Hardcore, softcore. PVE, PVP, crafts,

Those who say they don't agree: no problem.: look at life.

Life is a constant reset and upgrade of things.

We want that new computer, we want those new pants, we want that new cell phone (I-pod replaced by I phone).

Those who think "Oh My God I "worked" (sic) so hard for this item and now I am replacing it, should take a long view of what they buy every month in RL.

You don't agree with this principle? No problem mate ----> alternative societies are that way.

Whate are you even talking about, that WOW is a "Real-Life-Simulation"?

Epic interview btw.

Originally posted by fuzzylojik

Originally posted by TeamFortress

I am not worried about WOW. It 'll be here long after I leave this planet.

I am worried about you - the blind guys - who after the launches of all these perfect MMORPG games these last 3 years haven't learned a thing.

Mythic wants to prove they can make a real MMORPG with 10% of what Blizzard thinks is needed (0.1 biljon US dollars instead of 1 biljon).

Let's wait and see (like all those other attempts) what they come up with.

LOL.  Look at that first line.  That's freaking hilarious.  And he calls others blind.

He's saying WoW will be around for the possibly the next 30-40 years and beyond.

 

You're not flattering yourself by namecalling others.

Maybe he is like 80.

Since everybody shares their visions of the future without any credibility let me play Nostradamus too!

The game will be huge. It will attract every PVP fan on the planet by providing a rocksolid framework combined with tons of content like achievements,renown ranks, city ranks, guild ranks, guild banners etc.

To quote some devs, it'll be the world cup of violance - massively awesome.