I agree. I'm glad there is no stealth in WAR.

I think stealth, as in "Pop! I'm invisible now! Haha", is totally stupid.

1* WAR is clearly PvP-oriented but the game seems to mix PvP and PvE very well, which is the primary strength of this game.

2* AoC uses a more classical approach on how PvP and PvE work with each other. But it introduces a new kind of fighting (numpad weapon swinging, stances ...).

-> I don't think the two games can actually be compared. They are made for players with totally different desires.

As for my personal opinion (i was aiming to be objective above ;)). Even if I'm more interested in WAR at the moment, I'll definitely try AoC too. The weapon swinging reminds me of a FPS game I worked on a couple of years ago :) (though it used a physics engine and mouse movements for the swings) and if the swings chain smoothly, this will definitely be enjoyable :)

Their Beta Test Register form is bugged : Refuses correct email-addresses

This poll seriously needs more (or vaguer) options.

Only Wow-ish choices are proposed. Too limited :p

About this editorial :
Like Raccoon, I think it's a really biased. The author is free to have his opinion of course ^^ but the article is based on the fact that PvP in a MMO always includes Open-PvP, and it's not true.

About the posts above :
I've read above that there are people who think PvP automatically involves griefing, PK or even cheating ! I'm sad to read such things . You need to open your eyes, many (most) PvP players aren't like that.
Just because you got PKed 2-3 times while questing doesn't make all the PvPers bad people :)
And you must respect the wishes of the people who want PvP in MMOs.
At least 33.9% according to an mmorpg.com poll (and no, 33.9% isn't a minority btw, since only 29% don't want PVP according to the same poll ) Does an MMORPG NEED PvP to be fun?

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Originally posted by RK-Mara
I don't understand why you are so anti-Blizzard. They've made great games like Diablo II and Warcraft 3.

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I DON'T hate WoW, but i think the fact that some Blizzard key game designers have left the company before and during the making of WoW might have had impact on the overall quality of the game. WoW does not feel blizzardish enough, to me.

I see a lot of people here saying what I quoted from RK-Mara, so i'm gonna give details :
http://www.arena.net/about/team.html

You can read this particular line for example :

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Jeff Strain, Founder and Programmer, was the team lead and lead programmer of Blizzard's massively multiplayer role-playing game, World of Warcraft.

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Again I don't hate WoW, i think it's an OK MMO.

double post again, grrr!!!
give me phpbb !!!!

delete please.

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Originally posted by Larsa

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Originally posted by hedgewan
am i the only lost sould that never gave blizzard my money?

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Nope, there are a few of us. But it sure seems that we are a small minority here on mmorpg.com.

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Originally posted by vortigen7

According to http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/gameOverview/, it states RvR combat takes place on three fronts where ancient foes wage an unending war – Dwarfs vs. Greenskins, High Elf vs. Dark Elf, and Empire vs. Chaos. Players begin the game fighting their ancestral enemy, but are free to journey to other fronts to help their allies in their ongoing struggles. So, yes, you should be able to journey to other areas.

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