Originally posted by metalhead980

Honestly it's no freaking contest if you like the sci-fi setting and flying a spaceship you cannot beat a game that totally revolves around pvp like Eve Online.

Games like WAR, AoC and Aion are half decent pvp games while I would have selected DAoC but since this vote is games in there current state I cannot.

 

Edit: I liked Darkfall also but I honestly dont know how anyone could select it over EvE unless they just hate the sci-fi genre.

 

I was going to vote Eve,  but I havn't played it in years.  I then noticed WW2 online, but Havnt played that in years either.  In fact  I havnt played Darkfall or reached the level required to play pvp in Aion.

I could be wrong but people go directly to this thread to see games are suggested for best pvp.   Having to Vote in order to view the results will mess everything up.  Results can not be accurate do to the fact everything listed has not been sampled by every voter.   A poll should be constructed with an equation allowing the above circumstance to be considered.

No big deal if you take that into consideration and read the posts under thread when using the information to decide to try something new for pvp.  Eve was a life long game (great game ahead of its time when it came out).  Is it still or did they dumb it down to attract the masses?  thanks

Originally posted by Ibluerate

I could really use that laptop.

But I'd more than likely end up giving it to my friend, he needs a better computer.

I hope you win it,  Seriousely thats the nicest post I've read on these boards.   There is hope for the young.

Before you say your not young.  Anyone under 40 is a kid to my generation :).   Good Luck.

Who cares about the spelling,   Thanks for the advice.  Are their other zones non PVP worth going to at those levels and higher?   I have the game but not enought time to play lately.   Also, hope they dont nerf the chat channel, thats a good idea.  I also use custom channels for checking damage stats.  Didn't think of using as an early warning system.   Thanks again.

More open Missions?   I play that game too damn much and always choose the populated server unless doing solo missions to avoid kill competing/stealing.   I rarely see people doing the open missions.   Unless it a time zone 12 hours difference from pst.  But then again I end up playing then too. 

Early level is great the way it is.   There is a learning curve but when people decide tonotice the reasoning behind stats, levels, powers and how they interact,  Its all in their forums under powers and builds, they will blow thru the first 15 levels in a few days.   I take that back.   The first character should always go thru the tutorial, it takes an hour or two to level 5.  Its the character creator that eats time once you discover all the details available.

Team based stuff I cant comment on.

PVP I Tried once in very beginning before I discovered there is a reason for the stats, levels, powers and how they interact and compliment each other when you read how and why.   Havn't noticed the type pvp their is.  Like capture the flag or other team based games other FPS games have.

I am not a big fan of Star Trek,  Its a great show but never had time.   Just wonder if the other Star Trek games paid for licensing or rights if they used the actual characters, etc.    We could not expect Cryptic to shell out that kind of dough but would expect it to be an insane game to play in order to keep the fans intersted.

I just want something other than bows and arrows to shoot.   CO does a good job their,  but the whole spaceship and star trek theme should be outrageous with the talent they have.   Yes CO has its bugs but they all do early on.   The ones that dont,  check out the size of their company and dev team.

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by HeliosXII

Originally posted by Lanmoragon

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

cool, 20 new players for the company, gj!

 

I take it you are not in the military? Military pay = crap and at least my schedule doesnt always allow reliable time to play an MMO and make it worth paying the monthly fee.

Free to play for military=win.

 

Not only that, it's a nice little "thank you" to the troops for doing what they do for us.

 

They certaibly dont do anything for me since im not american.

Still, you guys really think they do this to thank the troops? Its nothing more than a publicitary trick, and one using military and wars.... seems a bit of bad taste to me

Curious here,  Your not American?  cool, then how many troops from your country are over their with us and supporting our cause by our side?   Was going to put a poll here so we could guess but gotta go.

Very cool move.   Thank you very much Flying Labs.   We are an orginization who also do things for Military familys so just had to say Thanks.  

I used to never gender bend ever.   Used to try and make chars look as close to myself as possible.   After a while seeing the really cool looking female characters I tried creating one.    After that I thought why the hell would I want to follow a character around (since they are mostley all played in 3rd person) thats a guy when I could be watching a Tomb Raider look a like.  Now I create them to look as close to my wife as possible with a few enhancements here and there :).  Its like a movie, entertainment, kind of like an actor or actress your controlling throughout the scenes so who cares?   China is a different story all together.  Government into everything, controlling everything.  Bet they have government health care too.

Ryzom is a Great game with the best community of all mmo's I have played since the 80's when they were text.   I try everyone that comes out looking good.   Ryzom never marketed much that I know of.  I just kept seeing it rated so high consistantly all the time.  Even today it ties Guild Wars and Warhammer.   Most  games with higher ratings havent even come out yet.   I havent played in a few years or so because I dont have time bouncing around the new ones since with lower ratings.   How is Ryzom doing?  Are the graphics any different at all since a few years ago?   They were good then but things have changed.    I know its not all about graphics Im just curious when new stuff comes out.   One thing for sure.  If anyone has problems running high graphics mmos and wants a mature very helpful, cool community, Ryzom is the way to go.

Its been so long since played others like wow, lotro, war and other popular ones but were those zoned?    Just a question, not trying to compare greatness in games, just do not remember AoC's many zones and forget what games had loading screens when changing citys or not.  Thinking that an mmo holding that many players in one giant zone/world must have some killer equiptment/servers behind it as well as very effecient code.   The one im playing now is zoned big time and wish it were not.   Thanks.

Originally posted by Keogh

This game launched only 56 days ago and its already giving away free trials.

This is not a good sign.

 

 

Its only for 3 days.   The game is very cool.  Not the easiest click button mmo to play so not for everyone.   They probably want to give people an opportunity to see how different it is.   Its very challenging and requires some thought process when building characters.   You can literally spend a whold day in the powerhouse trying all the different powers out and how they interact with each other when your high level and redo from scratch.   Its a killer action game.   No problem with populations either.   Check out some of the utube action before you waste the download first cause it might be to crazy for some.
 

what about the game other then crafting.  It looks good.  Is it worth playing?  Is it better then the rest.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

"1000 points for full Retcons ($12.50)"

You guys had this coming:

I TOLD YOU SO.

And ya know WHAT?   There is nothing wrong with it.  I was hoping they would.  Not using it and made a couple other chars instead (like the game was designed for).   People should go play the games they like so much that give them free respec, retcons, rectal exames, etc. etc.   Come on,  Ya just want to level one charecter and abuse the retcon system to experience what you should be creating a new character for.   There is endless information on site and in the char builder.   Important to always read advanced descriptions of powers when building.   SO,  You leveled your char to the max.   Retconing max leveled chars to experience new powers is a cheat and should be paid for.  Your lucky they allow it.   Hell your paying the price of a few drinks or half a movie to power level a char to max if you want.   By the way, Retcon cryers are just as guilty as those who have others power level for them.   Those who claim their power sucks most likely because it looked cool, was outside their base powergroup and nothing was buffing it.   Example,  Power buff that adds mass damage to elemental powers and its found in elect, fire set but munitions takes it.   Well.... uh,  Ya made a mistake.   Ive made tons and never cried over it because its in the description when taking power.   I would be embarassed crying over my mistakes like that.  Come on Suck it up.   Or the better solution - Please go play the game you like so much better that gives you all this.   Please.   Dont ask the devs to dumb down a good game.   It needs a lot of polish but watching the stats and checking with forums will give you enough to build your character.  

Damn this game.  I hope it sucks because I want to play it so bad but cant put CO down and have Arion to catch up on.  Im sure it will be good and I will switch completely over.  I think beta starts this week or so.  I hope I was not invited even though I put in 100 apps for it haha.  I hate making decisions.  But it does look good.

Oh well,  I never got past 17 and it was the same old mmo grind I was hoping to avoid.  I do hear its great past 20 and gets better and better.   After Beta I bought the game and cant get myself to grind to even 7 yet (keep goin back to other mmo).   Still playing pop a mole, weasle, bird, crab or what ever little animal is around.   Ah and I picked Ranger too and I hear thats extra boring in begining.   Did chanter before and was more exciting at lower levels.    If I havent played all the betas I would be lovin the game.   Just have to put in the time and do the grind.

Originally posted by Noyjitat

If planetside had headshots in it I would probably have never played as long. Its one of the things that kinda sets the game apart from other games. Its not dominated by sniping like nearly every other fps is and thats what makes it more enjoyable. Its much more competitive.

Yea true for lots probably.  Everyone likes their own thing.   I just would be running through vast amounts of land and if there were more danger to it would make more intense.   Like real life war fields when not careful.   No big deal.   People like it, play it and really like it.   Cool for them.   Their are so many mmos out and comming out now their is something for everyone.   Damn, talk about competitive,  I signed on to Quake 3 server for the hell of it before I deleted to make room on disk and shit man those hard core players who still play are insane.   They can headshot in mid damn air while they are running.   I guess thats what years of practice does.  Thanks.

Originally posted by rheinpfalzer

played it not to bad actually. not great but not bad. at least it was within the timeline for once lol.

How is it now a days?  Is it much improved from the first few years out?   Thanks.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by Shreddi

I gave up PS after never seeing a battle more spread out than a melee fest because the weapons were so inaccurate everyone ran in front of ya so close to the enemy to with the inaccuarte weapons they caused negative damage not being able to avoid hitting own team.   A true FPS shot where you pointed.   I remember sitting perfectly still firin the rocket launcher and watching ammo veer off most the time.   Yea there was a cone of fire but it rarely worked.   Sniper rifle headshot never produced realistic damage.   The game has vast amounts of empty space perfect for a tacticle battle but never used.   Did any of that change?  Did the weapons ever fire as accurate and doing same damage as other FPS games?   My fault I over hyped the game for the 3 plus years I followed before it came out.   Remember originally it was going to be in an escape from NY setting?   That changed completely and the weapons were the real dissapointement.   I hung out long enough to max a couple characters and add the expansion but too frustrating.   Battlefield series,  Rogue Spear games and swat blew it away.  Even Face of Mankind weapons were better. 

 

You just sucked at COF control. The guns were fine, it was you and the button mashing.

Well what explained every other player running up to the enemy sticking their weapons rignt on the enemy to hit them?   If you could read english I said thats why I quit,  got tired of no one firing from a distance.    I had no problem with cof and hitting from distance but never does a rocket or sniper head shot kill one shot.   Yea right get hit by a rocket or head shot and you live.   Really realistic huh.   All other decent FPS do it right.   What sucks is your asshole of an attitude.  Thats probably why PS is still a raging success and the other FPS series are flopping.  I dont see that but you must.   Always have to be a dick in the forum and you win first prize.
 

I gave up PS after never seeing a battle more spread out than a melee fest because the weapons were so inaccurate everyone ran in front of ya so close to the enemy to with the inaccuarte weapons they caused negative damage not being able to avoid hitting own team.   A true FPS shot where you pointed.   I remember sitting perfectly still firin the rocket launcher and watching ammo veer off most the time.   Yea there was a cone of fire but it rarely worked.   Sniper rifle headshot never produced realistic damage.   The game has vast amounts of empty space perfect for a tacticle battle but never used.   Did any of that change?  Did the weapons ever fire as accurate and doing same damage as other FPS games?   My fault I over hyped the game for the 3 plus years I followed before it came out.   Remember originally it was going to be in an escape from NY setting?   That changed completely and the weapons were the real dissapointement.   I hung out long enough to max a couple characters and add the expansion but too frustrating.   Battlefield series,  Rogue Spear games and swat blew it away.  Even Face of Mankind weapons were better. 

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Qraye

i'm not here to get into an arguement with you and its not my opinion, its the consensus of almost 140 players that have been playing MMO's since UO.....its more than opinion, its a result of experienced players, 27 of which ( and will never be named) are past and current MMO developers. Your making a fundamental mistake making those videos , your biased and take the viewpoint of perfect and not a neutral position. And one week is hardly enough experience to make any judgements for or against, your videos clearly show the lack of experince testing and be objective. There is a reason why Fallen Earth has less than 100k subs and is falling weekly by considerable amounts, so much so that the active purchase rate does not overcome the drop rate. Fallen Earth could have been a success, but it simply isn't, not by a longshot. Take care, become more mature and work on your objective perspective, good luck.

I'm sure you're all chummy with and think highly of your guildies but seriously.... Get over yourself... Also, the whole vicarious "because my guildies said so" is a bit creepy. It's like some small kid bragging about all his older brothers' friends. "Oh *yeah*? Well *my* brothers' friend has been racing bikes for 5 years! And *he* said your bike is a piece of junk!"

You'll also have to forgive me for calling BS on your self-aggrandizing commentary about yourself and your guild, etc. Seriously... You're so proud and feel so qualified to speak with such self-appointed authority that you do so from a sock account and won't name who you are or who this super-uber-amazing guild you claim to represent is... Yeah... You're just *oozing* credibility.

As for the "more than opinion" commentary of your supposed pro-gamer guildies... Here's a fun fact: Developers are human beings with opinions like everyone else. Your fellow-guildies with experience since UO are human beings with opinions like everyone else. Incidentally, there are many long-time vets of the MMO genre, some going back to MUDs and earlier - here as well.. Guess what? They have opinions too.

Here's a thought that might surprise you... People play games they find enjoyable for their own reasons, despite what others might think. Pretty crazy concept isn't it?

Coming to a forum and talking down the efforts of someone who's looking to put something out to the community so people have a more informed opinion - no matter how "qualified" you deem yourself to be - is rude, arrogant and, frankly, unnecessary. You've had your say, you've shared your second-hand point-of-view... So... how about you let everyone else think for themselves and make their own decisions, okay?

Go be happy with your elite guild of super-qualified MMO gamers and enjoy whatever MMO you've deemed "worthy" of your oh-so-sophisticated tastes.

Thanks.

 

Have to Agree with Mike.   People play for different reasons, They all have opinions.  Been playing since the muds from the 80's too.  Noticed how forums have become more and more a vehicle to vent ones personal frustrations and just being angry in general.   Gets to be nothing more than personal attacks towards other players rather than constructive comments regarding the game.   Seems years ago the games where played by those who were mature enought to own a pc.  Now every little kid has one.