Since they're using cities and zones from all over the world there will be some zoning of course, though Ragnar has stated that it won't be *click  "travel to London" and voila*. So it won't be just zoning or seeing a map with an arrow like in WoW.

He also explicitely stated that he hates instancing and he wants to have an open world where everyone is in the same zone. So that's encouraging at least.

Originally posted by Gammit100

From SOE, not a chance.  Other games are coming out that use some of Planetside's ideas: MAG (PS3), Welkin, Global Agenda, and The Agency.

Planetside was WAY ahead of its time.

Most of the other MMOFPS coming don't have the same grand scale battles as Planetside. Global Agenda for example just split the agencies up in small task forces, so you're actually playing on maps with 12 vs 12 like Unreal Tournament. 

An updated form of PlanetSide could be hugely succesful to be honest. 

People tend to fall in the trap of extremes too much. 

When the topic of player housing, crafting, player economy etc rises, everyone seems to think "it's going to be like SWG! It's going to suck!". Well, it's not because it didn't work in SWG, it can't work in another game. Player housing or guild cities don't necesarrily mean the same as a world cluttered with badly placed guild cities, on the contrary.. 

Housing, crafting, economy, etc are features that can lift any game up. If done right. People are shooting down these ideas on the basis of a game that was released over 7 years ago. That's a bloody long time ago in gaming history! BioWare has access to a lot better technology, they have access to knowledge and experience, etc.

People think a game needs to be either an extreme theme park MMO, or an extreme sandbox MMO. There IS a middle road though. We don't know what BioWare is going to do, there's hardly any info on the game yet. Are they or are they not going to have player housing or guild controlled zones? Are they going to have a decent crafting system? Are they going to have a player economy? We simply don't know. What we do know however, is that they aren't going to make a new SWG. Not making a new SWG doesn't mean features like player housing are scrapped though. 

I have never seen so much spamming and trolling on a forum of a pre-launch game, definitely this early pre-launch. Well, maybe with the exception of DF. It's not really fun, and makes me fear a bit of what it's going to be at launch. 

There's really a huge amount of PvE players on the forums who appear to be somewhat traumatized with PvP and who are waging a hate-war towards everything that has to do with PvP. In most other forums it's the other way around! In a way you could say it is "refreshing", but the trolling is going a bit over the top. BioWare should start hiring some more forum moderators I'm afraid. 

Originally posted by donjn

How about another "C"? Crafting?

It seems to be under Community :p

Didn't really show much but pretty graphics =)

Can't really say much about it, so in that sense it's a bit underwhelming maybe. The little bit of combat we were shown didn't look good though, too slow. 

Woah, this is quite a gaming company :o

Quite interested to see what kind of MMO this "Copernicus" will be! :)

Originally posted by Syno23

So, most people believe that Aion: Tower of Eternity won't be successful in North America. I can't figure out why, I mean the game has the PvP of Warhammer Online and World of Warcraft.

The Abyss PvP is 200 vs 200 and no one believes that will be fun? I was watching videos about the PvP and it is unlike anything I've ever seen. It is PvPvE which is something new and innovative and everything thinks this game will be a flop. I mean come on, NCsoft is great at making games that are PvE orientated, but what we want is PvP.

I was watching the PvP videos and my mind was just  blown away. AMAZING! What North American player would not want to be in the action?

My question is, what is the PvE about? Will there be raids and stuff dungeons?

We are sceptic because we fear it's going to be a Korean Grinder. If it isn't, then it will probably be a succesful game here!

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Zageron

Or BETA might have already started and we know nothing about it.

 

I can see MO coming out in August.

But I can also see the staff saying 'no scru that' and extending another month just to make sure their product doesn't suck when it's released.

 

Posts like this so remind me of another recently released (well, sort of)  game.

If the game releases any time this year, consider it a miracle in gaming.

Releasing it wouldn't be such a miracle, it being a good game if released this year, THAT would be a miracle!

Can't wait to see the Earthrise vid and the day when the embargo is lifted for TSW!

Originally posted by Angie-PvP

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

1. Sci -fi theme

2. full loot.

3. skill based, no leveling

4. good crafting

Just for starters.......

 

Earthrise has all that but when people talk about the full looting they fail to mention that the game will have item insurance. I remember when EA Games put item insurance in UO, looting a dead player or stealing from a player was a very rare thing. I think that Earthrise will be item based in a way, why else would they have item insurance? I would like to test Earthrise just to see how good the PvP is.

Well, Earthrise isn't aiming to be a niche-mmo as DF and MO. Since they're aiming for a much more mainstream crowd, things like item insurance are only logical. This doesn't have to be a bad thing you know. Right now you either have extremely hard core full-loot pvp like DF or you have no full-loot at all, Earthrise is trying to take a bit more of a middle-road. 

I personally think that's a good thing as it will bring many new players to this genre of MMO's, stimulating other devs to start focussing on sandbox a bit more!

As for items. One of the devs of MO brought up an interesting thing once, what is full loot worth if items aren't meaningful? It kind of makes it pointless to be able to completely loot other players gear if the gear is almost purely for looks.. Seeing that Earthrise is going to have a very extensive crafting system, it looks like gear will indeed be more important in this game, which for a full-loot system is actually better, since it will be a lot more worth to loot players.

There is of course the gear-skill issue. A lot of balancing is going to be needed, that's for sure ^^ How to make gear meaningful while not becoming a (big) factor in the outcome of a fight? 

Anyway, regarding the OP question. I don't think there's so much hype around this game at the moment.

What interests me is the pvp and the crafting/economy. Though I'm sceptic about the combat part. Never been too much of a fan of sci-fi gun combat in mmo's. Will be the deciding factor if I'm going to play this game or not. They might have the best crafting/eco and pvp system out there, if the combat sucks, I won't play. 

It looks pretty clean! Not a big fan of the grey though.

The slider doesn't work here. Firefox 3.0.5, no problems with IE.

I must say I liked the slider of the old homepage a lot more, you could more easily see what news there was.
 

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Originally posted by stanfink

this game has instanced pvp , levles and classes.. its not good for real PvP. too many restrictions.

www.thronesofchaos.com

thats the only true pvp mmorpg bein made.. no levels , classes , skill based ,  pvp anywhere.

Restrictions in pvp games = no good

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Sounds nice, but then again, not everyone wants to pvp all the time. I don't anyway :)

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Originally posted by Whips

I also signed up for beta a long time ago.  Does anyone know anyone who IS in beta for this one...or arent they allowed to talk about it?

After I learned about this game I dropped the other MMORPGs I was playing, just because it seemed silly to put any more time into a game I knew I was going to quit anyway.  Either way, I kinda wish this game had a release date set so I didnt have to sit around wondering.  Having a hard time waiting for it. 

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