Good to see they are fixing gtaoe without nerfing the crap out of the BW/sorc again.

You definitely are picky. But I enjoy this game but haven't been able to find that class for me either (although I admit part of that reason is because I'm an alt-o-holic). I wasn't able to hit 60 for a year on WoW - never came close to maxing out in EQ and never did in DAoC till after they made it freakin' easy as heck - so a lot of it is just me not being able to stick to a character.

But I thought DAoC had the best classes in any mmorpg ever. I like EQs classes as well as the uniqueness of CoH/CoV too. There were so many classes to choose from in DAoC and while the classes were similar in each realm - they weren't exactly mirrors so you could roll an a different realm and have a whole new experience. Thane and skald were amazing though - also valkyrie were nice as well as reavers for some of the melee hybrids. Loved theurgists/SM/BD/zerker as well (and even the bow classes - but only in early BGs). DAoC has more class balance issue than any other mmorpg I've played though - and that's what happens with so many. WAR does have issues with class balance - but not near as severely.

:p -  I still remember killing guys on Modred 20 levels above me solo with my pet classes like theurgist/cabalist/enchanter. Vamps were also retarded and dumb to add into the game.

I figured WAR would have some great classes as well (which there are some very cool ones) - but didn't quite meet the expectations I had from DAoC's classes. I'm also not too fond of the special mechanic that every class in WAR seems to have - some work well, but others just ruin the class for me. I can appreciate the WP/DoK, SM/BO, and few others with their special mechanic - but I do not like the Mara/SW/WL ones too much - the BW/sorc one could also use some tweaks.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by gervaise1

1. There wasn't a preorder in the normal sense.

2. AV have been rolling out the game progressively - sucks if you want to buy it and can't but they are trying to ensure a decent experience for all players. A couple of weeks ago they sold more copies of the game than they could handle and queues resulted - much unhappiness. Queues are fixed now but they are making sure that all is well before they reopen sales.

3. Shame on AV wanting to sell folks a working game; they should get real sell 800k copies and then spend the next 6 months closing down servers ....

 

so... on number two... should we wait until they ban enough people and need to repopulate the server?

 

number 3... shame on av for selling an incredibly feature incomplete game.  the game is STILL not what is advertised on the website... and, as can be seen by this thread (and others) -- non-fanatics do what a reasonable person would expect for a digital-download-only game -- they check out the website and get COMPLETELY incorrect information.

 

bait and switch is illegal in this country.

 

Welcome to 99.9% of mmorpgs. Actually - welcome to the world of mmorpgs. I'd like to see an mmo these days that delivers EVERYTHING they originally promised. I'm not a fanboy or anything - I bought the game but won't be resubbing - but just had to say that statement is ridiculous.

 

and those other games have websites that still state they're in beta and still list all those other features?

what would a REASONABLE person expect?   and let's say... wow, releasing without it's battlegrounds, but pretty much everything else... you're comparing that to the 2/3rds (or more) of the listed features which didn't make it to retail for darkfall?

 

but what i said is ridiculous?  for not being a fanboi...

Lol - look at my posts in this forum if you think I'm a fanboi. I hardly have much positive to say about the game - I wasn't even playing on buying the game but spontaneously did it because I knew I'd never be able to decide if I liked it by reading fanboy/hater reviews. But 2/3rds? That's laughable.

I wasn't aware that I was talking about the website not being updated - but I agree that it needs to be. That's pathetic but I usually got the updates from the forums. But yes - lots of websites have left un-added features up on their websites. AoC for example. I don't like it when people use the excuse - but still - it is a fairly limited staff working on the game, but they should still update their website a bit.

And WoW left a lot more than battlegrounds out at their release.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by gervaise1

1. There wasn't a preorder in the normal sense.

2. AV have been rolling out the game progressively - sucks if you want to buy it and can't but they are trying to ensure a decent experience for all players. A couple of weeks ago they sold more copies of the game than they could handle and queues resulted - much unhappiness. Queues are fixed now but they are making sure that all is well before they reopen sales.

3. Shame on AV wanting to sell folks a working game; they should get real sell 800k copies and then spend the next 6 months closing down servers ....

 

so... on number two... should we wait until they ban enough people and need to repopulate the server?

 

number 3... shame on av for selling an incredibly feature incomplete game.  the game is STILL not what is advertised on the website... and, as can be seen by this thread (and others) -- non-fanatics do what a reasonable person would expect for a digital-download-only game -- they check out the website and get COMPLETELY incorrect information.

 

bait and switch is illegal in this country.

Welcome to 99.9% of mmorpgs. Actually - welcome to the world of mmorpgs. I'd like to see an mmo these days that delivers EVERYTHING they originally promised. I'm not a fanboy or anything - I bought the game but won't be resubbing - but just had to say that statement is ridiculous.

Just make sure you pick the most populated trial server. And go for Vortex (best server in any mmorpg I have heard) if you subscribe.

Originally posted by JGMIII

DF is still in Limited paid beta.

It's not released to everyone since the Devs can't afford to release any new servers.

They seem quite happy with 5k+ subs so whatever.

I've decided to move on, if AV doesn't want my money what could I do?

You could always PM Plaidpants.

PM me - trust me - they want you!

PM me if you think you're 'worthy'. That's as much as I can say without getting my post deleted on this site apparently.

What's the best/safest way to sell my account these days? I have an Darkfall Online account and probably won't play it anymore. It has a lot of upside from what I could see (of course I didn't like some stuff about it) but none of my friends are willing to play/test it and the the #1 priority in my decision to play any game/subscribe.

Also - how much could I get? Would like to atleast break even - but more would be nice :p.

So I'll have an email if I am eligible for the 10-days? Reason I ask is because my account close literally about a month ago but I'm not sure if it was 30 days ago.. may have been 29 days sadly.

Really would have helped to activate all accounts for 10 days cancelled BEFORE the new patch....

Didn't use the torrent to download.

I was able to get in. And I've been fairly hesitant and skeptical about the game - not to the degree of some of the 'trolls' or 'haters' - so we'll see how it does. I'll probably give a review later if someone in my category hasn't (the category of hoping it succeeds but isn't optimistic that it will be a hit).

I only got to create my character before they server went down but just a few observations about character creation.

Better models than I thought (except for the alfar - imo but I don't like their looks). Human looks pretty good as does dwarf (although female dwarf is hideous). Orc could use a bit of work too but it suits me fine and I may roll one actually instead of my human.

One thing I found disturbing though was the dwarf. Maybe I was just experiencing a bug or something but I could not change the beard color.... only his hair color and 'braid' color. And there is no matching white to go with the beard if you want to have hair or extra braids (there's a really close grey that look OK though). The beards were see-through for some reason. That's my only complaint about CC really because I wanted to make a dwarf and that really messed it up. I didn't look at all of the races customization though.

Originally posted by Evasia

Originally posted by imbant

Well a true test of the developers of Darkfall was how fast they could rebound from their embarrasingly stupid launch that included horrible sync issues and long downtime.  They addressed the problem and things are now very smooth and fun as hell, and the downtime was made up to use in the form of free play days.  While a temporary inconvienience, in the long run it will just be a distant memory as the game is well developed and a lot of fun.

Already have had numerous experiences within the first day of "real" gameplay.  While exploring an area not explored in beta, we came across a city clanstone whose marker was comming out of a mountain (meaning it was in a mountain).  After some searching, we discovered that you could enter from going underwater in the lake and swimming underneath it, or going to the top of the mountain and dropping in through a waterfall.  The graphics of this game are second only to AoC, and it isnt even close.  The animations still need love, but never have we had so much fun exploring.  They did an amazing job with the design of the world.

 

We came across a few red players attacking some allies in sort of a ruined temple type structure where some mobs have overtaken (may have been a quest area but not positive as we didnt have a quest).  We had about 5 in our group on vent, and decided to crouch walk to the side of this large wall and wait.  When we were all ready, we all drew back our bows (Except for one guy who for some reason is anti bow and arrow so he used mana missle) and turned the corner and took out one of the red players in one round of arrows.  Obviously he was already low on health.  We got a second round of arrows/missle off on another red player before they realized that we were here and what was going on.  We ended up taking the second target down, while the other one escaped.  We claimed our reward off of their corpses, as well as an alignment boost for killing red players, and were happy to find about 600 gold between then (assumed that they had got that over other players) a whistle (200g) and a crap ton of arrows.

 

So thats just two stories from day one.  Other mmos i remember killing 10 boars etc for days minus WAR where i was able to "pvp" in instances which was a little more fun, so being able to get some end game experience in on day 1 was very fun.

 

Anyways now that the "omg lol DF phail" nonsense is over, the game can now really start to shine and we hope that the developers solve their billing/account issues so they can focus on more content asap and balancing some of the stuff in game that needs it.

 

Grafhics are maybe second to AoC but becouse world is one big huge world not small maps like AoC Darkfall grafhics are superior overall becouse it give a real immersive feel to it, a living breathing world.

Lol. That literally makes no sense. The graphics are awesome because the world is so huge and it has no instancing? hahahaha. I've heard that argument for games with bad performance like Vanguard as an excuse to why its bad - but how do you use that to prove the graphics are 2nd to only AoC. Haha - wow - I'm still in shock at that attempt to hype something that is average/below average in compared to current mmos (nothing wrong with being average - but to try to play it off as good or a strength is just laughable and makes you lose all credibility).

I'm going to assume that post was sarcasm (probably was - sarcasm can be hard to catch over the internet).

Originally posted by tombear81

 "Darkfall Online beta leak part 1 of 4 -- showing magery, melee, archery and some PvP. Also shows combat dynamics, why they suck, and why Darkfall is largely a mediocre game that doesn't require any skill, even at higher levels because the combat dynamics don't change much after getting higher in skill."

 

You do know this is what the speaker in the video describes the whole experience as !? This is hardly a promotional series of videos. !

It was actually a pretty decent overview imo. You could tell he wasn't a fanboy and had some issues with the game - but he kept his comments in check and showed a ton of stuff for starts (although mostly solo play which seems boring imo in Darkfall). Not to mention it was all in HD which is always a plus.

Originally posted by imbant

I am amazed people think i am getting paid to right this.  This is a video game you tinfoil hat wearing whackos...im a fan of a game that im having fun in.  Grow up and stop playing forum wars. 

Fine. Then stop posting complete crap about "amazing graphics" that are second to only AoC. Lol.

Every game has its weaknesses - and Darkfall's are obviously its sound/animation/overall graphics (although not nearly as bad as the animations portion of it).

If you don't want for people to question you and if you want people to actually believe anything you say - then why would you even put that laughable statement in your post? I have no problem with anything else you said in your post - but that line was comical and jumped off the page at me.

Originally posted by APEist

 Btw imbant, I'm glad your having a great time ingame, but don't say things like "graphics are second only to AoCs."

That is troll bait and you know it.  So even if that is what you truely think, comon man-- be smart and omit it.

 

This. I was actually about ready to sign up until I read that portion of his post - how much do you get paid to write these things? :p J/k about that  - but it's clear to me that even if Darkfall was slightly below your expectations you probably would not be able to swallow your pride and admit it (and I'm not saying it is or isn't - because I wouldn't know having not played the game).

I know 10 games off the top of my head that have better graphics than Darkfall. I think even EQ1 with the Luclin revamp has better or equal graphics to Darkfall. When I first showed my brother a video of someone fighting a skeleton - EQ first came to mind as well.

I hope I can get past the graphics (not too much of a big deal) and the animations (maybe a deal breaker for me personally) if I decide to play. Darkfall probably has a ton of very fun and enjoyable features - but c'mon - be realistic here and stop spewing out lies like "graphics are second only to AoCs."

Originally posted by Turnell

I dont worry about run speed as much as travel speed. IN the end, its all based on the mounts/flightpaths/teleports etc

Yeah - run speed is slow - but it won't make or break the game at this point.

BUT - if they don't fix some of the horrid animations (specifically combat ones) that could break it. If I am swinging a 2h wep and standing relatively still - I think I should have to do something more than twist my hips from left to right to swing a huge polearm. It looked pitiful. I really hope they look into that. EQ had smoother combat animations in its release.

Originally posted by Lork

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

As stated by a previous poster, patch 1.1 made several improvements to the game, however, ptach 1.1 should had been here on release date.

If you played the game in PW or OB, alot has changed when it comes to getting weapons and armor.

ORvR now is more active than it was at release and ORvR now has its benefits. People still run scenarios, but you will see more people taking Battle Objectives and Keeps, because they want that rare loot gear that drops and also they gain a seperate INFLUENCE BAR now for weapons and gear.

Example..

You still got the regular Public Quests drops for gear / weapons, but know there is a totally NEW INFLUENCE bar if you take part of Open RvR in that TIER Region. This INFLUENCE Bar is what people are craving as well since you can get Purple Items the More you Open RvR.

You still got the Scenario grinds for Renown Gear / Weapons, but who wants that crap compared to the new INFLUENCE Gear.

The game is now more than ever geared for RvR and alot for better rewards than it was at release. At release all we grinded for was for Renown Gear, but this new INF Gear has crazy stats for low lvl characters.

I say the folks starting this game out now got it better than what we had at launch.

 

That's why WAR is terrible. TOO much grinding.

Welcome to the land of mmorpgs. Go play original EQ or DAoC (before any expansions - two of the three games that really set the stage for mmorpgs and their future) then come complain about grinding.

Would have loved another 3 faction game. But WAR has population issues already - splitting it up even more would be tough on this game. DAoC did great in its prime with 3 though. Still think WAR needs even fewer servers.

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by Jtrav1987

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Its good for what it is - RvR

 

Elaborate or delete your post please.

 

Kthnxbai!

 

Jtrav1987, Keep to the topic and elaborate, or delete your post. See what I did there?

His post is at least about the topic, your post is unsignificant and much worse off.

 

As for the topic, and this is my opinion: Performance is MUCH worse than say patch 1.04. It went from good, to playable, to barely playable (1.06). I hope it starts getting better in 1.1. Lag, CTDs, stuttering etc. are still there. I'm not the only one who's getting worse performance than before, you can check any forums.

However everything else is getting better, from RvR population, to population balance, out of sync animations, loot, bugs and more stuff.

So while I was enjoying the game, the degrading performance from patch to patch is starting to get on my nerves and if it doesn't get better in 1.1, I'll probably cancel until performance is good again.

So to answer your question, patches are fixing everything except performance (on my side at least).

Not sure why you're having problems.  Mine runs great. Better than it did when it first came out.