Originally posted by WishMeister

Have u tried Darkfall ?

 

 

 

 "Darkfall seems to be following the Shadowbane school of urban planning: Every city exists in the open world, and each building demands a substantial monetary investment from the city's future inhabitants.

Just to get up and running, the average Hamlet-sized city will run about 38,000 gold, not including the wood and stone players need to harvest. The majority of the cost goes toward modules, which act as building blocks for new structures."

eh darkfall is a pretty bad game - but even if you can endure the bad gameplay/graphics/interface(basically anything other than features and cool ideas) - the city building is very limited and structured. You can only build cities in certain areas and when I played those places were snatched up in a week and you couldn't find an open one. And the layout is limited too - and the style by region. It doesn't really compare to SWG or Shadowbane (Shadowbane is the best ever at this imo) - it falls below SWG but slightly above AoC, imo.

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Originally posted by Tralak

Originally posted by Crolug

Those girls are bigger nerds than we are :)

Do you really believe this girls play/care/know about video games?

 

Dumb - I actually went to high school with one of the girls in the video - and definitely not anything close to a model and is a big WoW fanatic.

Originally posted by sodade21

i dont know about you..but everything counts... many bigger companies havent done so many upgrades and free in 5 years..and a small indy company show that really cares..yes they are failing at ETA's but finaly they deliver even in a slow pace.. this expansion is the june's patch and the real df2010 expansion is gonna be the real expansion we should talk about ;)

Just because they call it an "expansion" and say it's free doesn't make it a real expansion. Every game whether its LOTRO, WAR, WoW, etc. comes out with big, freeupdates (usually 5x larger than DF's two "expansions" - but they are bigger so that's understandable). I know both WAR and LOTRO have had a lot more upgrades in this past year than DF can come close to.

It's ignorant, imo, to act like they are being nice and just giving out this precious free updates, when they are to be expected in this day and age. This isn't the original EQ days where they released an x-pac for every new thing - but even those were significant changes to the game.

Originally posted by arcdevil

this ^

 

4 rounds of layoffs, down to 4 servers and people claiming for more merges at the OF, asian adventure all but bombed, down to 50k-60k players worldwide, no real new content since may last year, the idea of an expansion ruled out even by the most blind fanbois...

 

at the pace its going  I dont think WAR will see the end of 2010. Guess that excludes worrying about upcoming games

Damn - I don't think I've ever read so much hyperbole and exaggerations in one post in my life. Amazing. Won't see the end of 2010? Lol.

And EQ was primarily FPV - yeah it had the option to zoom out and see your character (not sure if it was in at release or not but I'm sure it was)... but everyone I know played it in FPV primarily.. only time I zoom out was to see my new gear/weapon I had aquired or to occasionally change things up and watch my character fight.. but targetting was such a pain and your character would primarily just get in the way in EQ's tpv..

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Allimdoore

Ok, I think what alot of people dont understand is that the devs (and alot of the fanbase) wanted the game to be fpv. The reason making a mmo geared towards fpv play requires you to hold it to fpv is that by adding tpv you effectively eliminate fpv use entirely. think about it, this is a ffa pvp game. There are clear advantages in being able to use tpv in combat. Not to mention it also eliminates stealth entirely. You can't sneak up on someone who has eyes in the back of their head. People want to be competitive in the game so even the people who like to play fpv wouldn't because of the disadvantages.

Again, I've snuck up on tons of people unstealthed in WoW.  That point is moot.  I was here when both DF and MO were in development and there were heated discussions on the field of view.  Don't be ignorants, there were a LOT of people against FPV as well.  It's always a big discussion in any game that considers it.  Yes, you gain an advantage in perception, NOT in combat. 

 

And finally, you made my point for me.  If you add TPV to the game, FPV is dead.  The reason is horribly obvious.  If the players who play it would rather use it, what does that say?  Exactly.

For as many people in WoW you've snuck up on - without stealth - you've panned you camera behind you while drinking or something between fights and have found some random enemy running towards you in STV or where ever just as many times or more than you've been able to successfully sneak up on.

Yeah - you can sneak up on someone to a certain extent... a lot of people zoom out a lot.. in MO or Darkfall you don't react till after they hit you.. you can start reacting in WoW 1-2 seconds before... and that doesn't count all the times you've been able to see the guy trying to sneak up behind you - that would ruin the game.

WoW was his first mmorpg - cut him some slack.

wouldn't even be a contest..

DAoC, but it's pretty old. Midgard is as dark as it gets.

Well I guess 99.9% of mmorpgs are just grinds then if you want to classify a "grind" as that one poster did. Basically ever game in the mmo market is like that. Not a very accurate way to define grind at all.

If you don't like putting time into your character to advance him and grow stronger, improve, and get better equipment, etc. and would rather hit cap with in a week - play Guild Wars or an fps I guess - or more console games.

Originally posted by unclemo

 I'm not sure why the OP feels the need to issue a 'warning' to people because Darkfall is level based.  Of course there's skill levels and those with higher skills and better gear for that matter will exert more strength overall.  The only truly 'level-free' type game would be FPS's like Team Fortress 2.  Darkfall was never marketed as a level-free game so again why the warning.

Darkfall was marketed as a 'class-free' game which indeed it is despite whatever your feelings may be on the endgame specializations offered.  Players can wield a bow, switch to a wand to heal themselves and break out a sword, all in the same fight.  That's one of Darkfall's main attractions to it's player base.  

Are higher skilled-leveled players going to beat the n00bs one on one?  Of course they are unless the higher skill-leveled player is a complete idiot.  The great thing is that three newer players can gang up on on higher skill-leveled player and have a chance. The opposite is that the one player can have a shot at beating the other three.  There's a sweet spot there somewhere and it's determined by skill, not a RNG.  This type of setup could never happen in just about every other MMO where there are actual overall numerical levels for the characters.  (Don't let this stop you video makers from FRAPSing five or so level 1 characters getting pounded on by a level 80 in the WOW battlegrounds though.  I would lol for at least ten seconds.) 

He's warning people because half of the fanboy population on here (and on the official and other sites) are trying to pimp out the game as a game where only real player skill (person behind the keyboard) matters. Where a noob can come in and kill a vet. Which is simply not true unless that said person is AFK or has recently been paralyzed from the waist up since logging into his character - but he could probably still kill the noob using his feet since he only needs 3 hits for the new players 40ish. No one expects it to be TF in a medieval setting - but a lot of the fan base is pimping it as one, that's what this thread was originally about.

Originally posted by Lorxen

Hey guys, I'm currently looking of an mmorpg that actually requires skill, that's not that much level and gear-based but more about your own skill. I already played Mabinogi and Guild Wars, but I got tired of those after playing for a few years. I'm thinking about EVE atm.

"an mmorpg that actually requires skill, that's not that much level and gear-based"

Stop recommending Darkfall for this certain guy - it will take him quite a while to be competitive with the everyone in DFO because of stat/skill gains in order to be able to do squat in pvp and he's not looking for that... you can honestly hit cap in most linear leveling mmos before you get competitive skill/stat wise in DFO. It's still a good/interesting game - but it's highly level based (just the levels are in forms of stats/skills).

Wouldn't be the greatest - but you could run it on low with shadows off - you're the one who asked about the video card, correct? That and you more memory too (its fairly cheap - all you need is another gig really) to be able to play it fairly well I think. From the way I understand it the low # nividia's (200s,300s,400s) aren't really optimized for gaming - while the higher ones 8800, 9800, etc are better for gaming.

Originally posted by sockevin91

thank you, that was around the price range i was looking for. do you use that card or do you use a better one?

I actually currently use a crappy 8600 OC'd - been meaning to get a better one - and probably will purchase the 9800 or get it for Christmas.. or may go for a better one, not sure yet. My card runs most mmorpg out fine with atleast 35-60 fps (depending on the game) on average settings.

Originally posted by sockevin91

can someone tell me of a graphics card that can run this game in decent quality (not lowest). please tell name and price if you know

look for an nvidia 9800 - those are decently priced at around $90-$100 right now and can run pretty well. Of course there are much better cards if you're willing to spend more. www.tigerdirect.com (go here).

I think MO has a little more potential - but it's still a ways away from being there. It definitely will be a better immersion type game with a better working world atmosphere (I know that doesn't make sense - but it does to me haha hard to explain). MO will be a lot better for those who enjoy role-playing elements. It won't be a huge gankfest and KOS anyone you see to an extent. It will feel more real according to the time period - imo - because I don't think you'd find thousands of cities (such as in Agon) in massive siege warfare 24/7 and complete, never-ending chaos (nothing wrong with that - I like that - but it's always nice to have a more RP feel for me anyway). The graphics will certainly be better and I think the world will probably feel more alive (not hard to do at the moment since the DF pre-made cities have about 5 npc's in them and there aren't any out and about randomly).

Yes - you may able to hit them unlike in WoW - but you would have to land about 40 shots while they only have to land 3-7 shots to kill you. Even the worst player (aim wise) can hit someone 5 times before a noob (who is skilled at aiming) can hit the grinded out character 40 times. It's not even close.

It's not exactly like WoW - but if a guy that has high stats/skills dies to a noob with crap stats and crap gear then he just needs to quit the game - and maybe even quit life.

Darkfall is highly level-based as the OP said - but that doesn't make it trash or not fun to play - I like the sandbox - just wish it was slightly more of a world rather than a huge gankfest - I know it's a pvp game - maybe MO will have more of that feel (I like pvp a lot - but sometimes you just want that RP or immersion feel in it as well as the FFA pvp). But no point in the hardcore fanboys telling new players lies about how they can beat a vet with their new character if they're skilled enough.

Originally posted by googajoob7

Originally posted by Frobner

BTW - the comback Campaing is ONLY for US players.  Not For EU players.  

Still I got the Mail from Mythic - just to find out that the link was to the US account system.  Not the EU accounts.

 

 

its bad is nt it i returned for the 10 days welcome back earlier in the year only to find my squig herder was deleted .never once with any other company has that happened before however long the break .

So you probably deleted him then - or someone with access to your account.

Originally posted by ApollosCrede

I guess its time for my annual return to WAR for free ingame items and time! haha 

Annual? Shoot - didnt realize the game had already been out 3+ years!