My God, you're ignorant and clueless beyond imagination.

I feel disgusted by the fact that we're probably same age....

I'm bettin on a plate.

Spear plus shield anyone ? :D

You guys are so easy to fool. You think this kind of editting works server side ? The moment he logs out, they are all gone. If he shows me duplicating those items and then logs out, and logs back in and they are still there, then it MAY be real.

Originally posted by zakiyawow

Originally posted by 32style

 

And they blantly lied about giving us any update at all. Simply to let those two days pass, so they can lie once again, and finally put their broken forums up so people can get their 2 days flustration off.

Unforseen error :

IT guy forgot the password :P

That's soo German.

And they make us belive Fascism is gone.

Riiiiight.

PS. I'm not being Racist. :d Just , a situation joke. :D

Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by Aruken

[quote]The cancellation was not due to load problems caused by the large number of potential players. Player numbers would have given us a look into possible issues within the scope of a stress test. Due to unforeseen reasons, problems arose already during the entry into the game world.[/quote]

either bluehole did not explained frogster how to host the game, or they are just lying and absoluetly did not had the hardware needed. I'll go for the 2nd choice.

I'm going with that too. They were unprepared hardware wise and had no backup plan.

And they blantly lied about giving us any update at all. Simply to let those two days pass, so they can lie once again, and finally put their broken forums up so people can get their 2 days flustration off.

Close the forum so the people can't cry.

Run it back on only to realize it's fucked up again.

Ohh hai FailFrog ! :D

Wait, forums suppose to work ?

Then I guess this is just a glitch.

Close the forums so the people won't cry.

And still pretend you know what you're doing.

Damn Frogster, that's almost like fascism.

Ahhh, voices in my head !

Good luck guys n gals !

Another reason that Chinese shouldn't make MMORPG's. IMO

Originally posted by ZizouX

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by ZizouX

Originally posted by parrotpholk

So they plan to retain 800k by years end, so much for the WOW killer estimates.  I do think that might be around the number though if I am being honest.  I do not see it dropping to the 200k version like most.  That being said I also think for the company, title and supposed budget that 800k retained would be a failure with those three things in consideration.

200 million Cost

2.2 Million sold @ $60 (not even calculating increases sales from collectos and digital collectors which accounted for at least 1 milion) = 132 Million

800k x $14 /month = 11.2 Million

 

143 Million as of today.... which means they may be in the hole for another 50-60 million.  If the numbers stay the same, they break even in 5-6 months.

 

Let's assume they retain 500k subscribers for the next 2-3 years.  That's 7 million a month and 84 million a year.

 

If it cost them ~200 million to develop the game for the past four (4) years... that means they're spending ~50 million a year in development and operating costs.

 

That still leaves them ~25 million dollars a year in pure profit.

 

Stop comparing games to WoW.  By any objectie measure.... 25 million a year profit from a single game is very good. 

 

What that tells me is that this game is going to be around for a VERY VERY long time, with constant patches and expansions.   After that, I don't give a rip about how many "I'm canceling my sub" posts there are.

 

I don't need forum trolls telling me what games I should and shouldn't enjoy.

 

PS - Those of you who are saying this game will only have 200k a month subscribers are delusional.  FFXIV, as big of a flop it was in the history of gaming still retains 50k.   

 

85% of my guild is subbed and staying for the long haul.  Go check out the general chat in game and you see NO ONE complaining... it's only the minority.

 

If this game has a steady 500k subscriber base... it's a financial success.....

No one is telling you what you should enjoy.  Also would not say those who do not enjoy is a minority.  If they plan to sell 2.2 million and retain 800k by years end then it would in theory be the minority who enjoyed the game.  At the end of the day does not really matter but its always fun to discuss.  To me with the things I mentioned the game with anything less than a million subs is a failure.  

Failure? says who?  You have to compare retention rates with the industry average.

 

If the industry average is that only 20% of people stick with an mmo after the frist month, and SWTOR has 36% (800k / 2.2 mill), then by definition it is a success.

 

Plus, it's never black and white.  I've subbed, unsubbed and resubbed to mmo's for the past 8 years.   SWTOR may not have reach expectations because some jack ass who doesun't understand anything about mmo's said they should ahve 2 million subscribers by the end of the first year.  What is he/she basing that on.

If SWTOR maintains a 500k subscriber base, then that's the second largest subscriber base in North America.  

The expectations were so high that they had no where else to go but down.  But even if you aim for heaven and miss, you're still amongst the stars.

 

Objectively speaking, if this game is making millions of profit a year, than it is a success.  I can't imagin this game every going F2P if it's bringing in a profit that justifies the development and maintainance costs.

 

I think I like you.

I would love to get a key.

For everyone else, Good luck !

Interplay ripped off the rights that were orignally theirs. And seriously, Fallout 1/2/Tactitcs were the best Fallout games, period. The shit bethesda made is just embarrassing. I feel sorry for Interplay after all they've done for us, gamers. "For gamers, by gamers."

This is so true ! I've been sick and tired of seeing it happen over and over again. Luckly for me, most game have the "/ignore" command. :)

Originally posted by yoyoyoblaka

lol these chicks aren't models, they're all "regular" girls actually dressing up. 

The reason why most of em aren't that hot. 

 

If you ask me. They aren't even "regular".

Yes I'm in !

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Here are my keys, enjoy guys and good luck !

Omg. There must be like 100 of ppl refreshing this page all the time, too late again. o.O

LMAO ! Already taken. Damn I must have been too slow. xD