Originally posted by Sinella

Originally posted by crash3713

Originally posted by Sinella

Atlanta ? What makes you think that ? The servers are most likely in Korea.

http://archeagefans.com/ (AAsource). Its one of their little gee whiz facts about the game

Can you link the exact source, please ? I'm not able to find it on that site.

 

You can find it useing GOOGLE and it says:

ArcheAgeSource.com is hosted on a server located near Atlanta.

All it takes is some reading comphrehenzion and some google skills :)

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

Just found out that SV banned my account as my dispute has successfully gone through (meaning I got a refund).  Just wanted to to wish all the fans good luck on the game.  I am not sure if the game will survive for a few months due to everyone leaving because of the bugs and no content.  I am just glad I got away from it while I was in the first 60 days to get the refund.

 

Wish I could say it has been fun, but this game and its development cycle have scared my view of MMO indie developers.

Good luck with this game, it REALLY needs it... 

 

 

PS - To the people who are saying I am a fraud or I am frauding SV... do they not know that the game is 60% incomplete and was down for 2 weeks?  It sounds more like SV is frauding its customers, but you can decide that.

I doubt you got a chargeback, and if you did yes its fraud.

Its more likely they dont want you as a customer, and found out who you are Mr. MacCoy.. and btw. hows school going?

In case you really did get a chargeback, then you did do fraud to the CC company, and SV shouldnt care, i doubt the Chargeback even hit their pockets, as they can easyly fend your claims off.

sry but where do they say G15 is ok the rest aint? 

Im not sure if i read something wrong! 

However its up to ppl to stay updated on the rules as they change, they did state that 3rd party wasnt allowed. 

And im sry guys. G15 goes as 3rd party. 

But with your guys logic, as long as i hook the keyboard to a DLL then all macros is allowed. but those without aint?

Im sry faulty.

ATTENDED MACROING IS ALLOWED! 

not 

UNATTEND.. But it will only get you kicked

Originally posted by Raserei

Im doing peer 2 peer at 9KB / sec... It was faster earlier but now its ultra slow. Anyway to fix this?

yes sir!

Use utorrent or any other torrent client, and get the torrent files here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=614QGRWX

ikisis you disapoint me :P

in the thread listed to DC it seems to confirm that only ppl useing other hacks than the radar hack got banned! .. so GG you still got the radar hacking faggs! 

Originally posted by phreakist

Originally posted by qazqaz123

As i replied to you elsewhere, all this info has allready been said, explained etc. on irc by the devs them self :)

That's why you quote IRC logs... for people who aren't in IRC.

try quote the DEVs then.. 

Originally posted by phreakist

Originally posted by qazqaz123

First. this is not a update at all. or anything close

 

in fact you can read about it here:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/39574-release-update-mortal-online.html

 

Allso this is quite common knowledge and the whole thing have been explained even to this person several times.

Kootnay aint a dev, his just saying what the devs been saying for weeks now! 

Nobody said Kootenay was a developer. He's an IRC mod/op.

The update part is that it gives us a specific number of days since a certain task was completed, paired with an estimate on how long the similar overall procedure took last time.

As i replied to you elsewhere, all this info has allready been said, explained etc. on irc by the devs them self :)

First. this is not a update at all. or anything close

in fact you can read about it here:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/39574-release-update-mortal-online.html

Allso this is quite common knowledge and the whole thing have been explained even to this person several times.

Kootnay aint a dev, his just saying what the devs been saying for weeks now! 

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

I am not defending the game, but here is my opinion

 

Mortal Online = $75 with 1 month game time

Xsyon = $40 with 2 month game time

 

Mortal Online = does not have a strategy on what they are doing, just throw content in randomly

Xsyon = Evolution system where content is eventually added

 

Mortal Online = uses the UE engine, which was not created for an huge open world MMO, was made for instance based games

Xsyon = custom created engine that can be easily modified because of the teraforming in game

 

Mortal Online = created by inexperienced developers that have never created a game before, just modded UE alittle

Xsyon = developers have worked on previous projects such as Roma Victor (have experience)

 

 

 

That is just a few differences between Mortal Online and Xsyon I could think of right now.

I like to remind you Lineage2 were running on the unreal engine (different version thou)

And it have been hosting some of the biggest sieges in mmo history! 

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

it's a good decision. game is not ready

 

7th delay?

 

SV are not the most professional or experienced game developers out there, no doubt.

Still, they aren't even close to setting a record for total time in delays.  No even close.

Besides, let's be honest here.  People like you and Slapshot are here to bash the delay.  If they had decided to go ahead with the launch in a couple of days, you would have bashed them for that, too.

Hypocritical forums stalkers FTL....

 

 

Waiting until 2 days before announced release?  Is that professional?

sadly this is common practice so yes..

Thou the issue with desync they suddenly got is so bad it need to be looked at, and im for one is happy they dont release with that shit, it would make em loose more customers, this if it shows anything show that they actualy DO CARE ABOUT CUSTOMERS!

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Originally posted by phennexion

wow pretty hardcore fanbois.

I want this game to do good, I wana play a game like this, It's why I paid for it. But it does seriously need work. You hardcore fanbois can make up stupid excuses like "didnt contact GM for help" , or "didnt move cause you were gettin snooped", but how the hell is a newbie know to do this, the fucking help files are retarded and sound like they were writtin by some player on the forums, I read them all and it didnt even help me figure out much.
 

You shouldn't have to start playing the game in a guild/group of people to enjoy it, cause thats not always the circumstance in 90% of the people who buy the game.

It's clear as day, that the game isnt ready for release, it needs another year of polishing to be playable by the masses and not the hardcore nerds who aint got nothing better to do with their day then figure out a broke ass mmo and gank noobs then lol at them on the forums when they complain. If it's like the poster said where the creator of the game doesnt want noobs in the game then fine, it's a sinking ship, gg. Back to wurm online if you want real sandbox anyway

its nice of you to call us fanbois, mby we want the game to succeed, mby we like this play style, mby you dont like the playstyle.

But to use negative terms as fanboys :((( 

WoW got fanboys too, harder to bash, as it actualy got shitton of ppl playing it, yet, some of us dont cuz we simply dont like it.

We mearly giving you advices, if you allready read em, and still cant figure out how to hit WASD and cant deal with the losses from getting pked or stolen from, this game is clearly not for you, and you should move on, theres no reason to start the personal insult campaign.

 what mo needs (and DFO) in my oppenion is a good reason to fight for landcontroll

While DFO have too many starter and player cities vs the amount of players, its never gonna be possible there, unless most of them is removed!

Land control as in, a very good reason to hold a city, and mby getting taxes from "newbie" towns,

If mo would be able to implent sieges over land control, so they get taxes from residents, we are a good way, to have something to fight over. Other than that, the 10% stat loss aint too bad currently as all skills is speeded up so fast to regain, in release when those skills gonna take 1-2 days to get back pr time you die as red, its gonna suck more! 

And yes, it sucks to go outside a city in MO if some of the RED guilds are curently raiding, alot of ppl is preparing for release, and alot of new players wanna be good with the pvp system, (without too much risk), so ppl as in most games, go practices on the newbies running around outside, this was a big deal in DFO too, as there were simply no punishment for beeing red in that game.

10% stat loss is atleast some punishment

if that dude is getting killed 2-3 times one day while trying to regain his skills, he will be even more fucked..

Use gear and numbers to your advantage, and bandages :P .. When they come to raid, they are usualy prepared, you can be that too. 

Originally posted by Neoptolemus

Originally posted by Torgrim

Atleast Indi developer tries to break a trend while bigshot MMO producer throw out crap products one after another.

 

I'd argue that companies like starvault are not doing the indie dev scene any good at all. I'm not saying that SV are harming the indie development scene exactly, but by overshooting themselves and trying to play with big boys without proper financial backing or prior experience they only serve to highlight the gulf that currently exists when it goes down in flames.

wait playing with what bigboys?

Eve-online and WOW isnt the boys they playing with at all.

And for financial backing, its hard to find a company that would do that, publishers like Sony, Codemasters, EA etc. is all nutroious for destryoing mmos by pushing release even more! and wanting changes to make it more (sry for word abuse here) Wow-alike,

Its supposed to be a niche game, and i agree, they could use more time and financial backing, the problem is the mordern world dont allow for that kind, as the ppl with the money thinks, fast release is better than decent release! 

Originally posted by phennexion

I bought the game a long time ago, noticed it was in open beta, so i redownloaded it,

 

Made a char, walked out of town with no idea how to kill anything, or gather resources, ganked.
I'm dead and the priest is like 2 miles away.

Whatever, make a new char, and im missing skills for some reason, cant rest or do anything,

makea  few new chars with random missing skills until i get one that works,

FINALLY after like 7 attempts at new characters, i got one i can play, so with some help of random players I kinda get an idea on how to play the game, and I go hunt some boars, and get the stuff , sell it and get the money

but as im tryin to deposit the money into my bank to keep it save, someone is stealingit from me adn the game is too bugged to let me drop the rest of it in the bank, i have to log in and log out just to put stuff in and out of the bank

UNPLAYABLE, Not newbie friendly, i dont care about gettin ganked, its the type of game it is, but theres a limit on just how unfriendly a game can be on a newbie before they will quit, and this is just ridiculous. I've played darkfall and been pwned in darkfall alot, but this game is pure stupid, when it comes to new player experience

It needs like another year of development and polishing.

1. The priest when dead is easyly located by beacons, if you coulndt figure out to go back to the city where you just walked out off, your own fault. its not 2 miles by far.

2. the char creation dosnt give random missing skills, but random skills. Wich meens different start out skill set for different "type" you chose, and a few for race.

3. To steal your money they have to wait for a second timer, once getting snooped you should start moveing. Its a feature in the game, live with it or play anotehr game., Thou i agree stealing in its current form is still lame.

4. Yes its not newbie friendly, you obvious cared about beeing ganked, and not beeing able to easyly locate the priest around the corner, further more you cared about getting robbed at daylight. 

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

Game is going to be released at the end of this month as an alpha release because of the bugs and lack of content...   

 

PS - Make sure you get a refund from your credit card company before the game officially releases or your SOL.

I highly doubt they gonna loose any money to that, as their rules is well within their countries laws, the bank they use accepted the terms too. So if you get a chargeback, its your own bank paying from their own pockets!

Do that too many times with your creditcard company, and you risk a real investigation of your account, and a possible trip to court to pay back the debt  you now own the CC company.

 No ofc they wont wipe, you get to keep everything you got and made, and on top of all that you get a free catapult siege edition..

No as most other games, they will wipe, its stated many times, and a quick search on the mo forums will show you the same thing.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by qazqaz123

 

i disagree a little there,
Starting up as your own in the mordern world, is all about cash.
No cash, no devs, 
no devs, no game.
No game = no  potential income.
 
'At one point you have to start, eiter by a loan, or by a big input of cash from somewhere! 
it dosnt come for free, not when ppl wants to be paid for work (for obvious reasons)
The long end of this: its all about budget.. then ofc. in some cases, even a big budget wont make a game. but its a good start :;)
 

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You may disagree that's fine but you also do not understand or read.

No cash means you develope the game part time or in your spare time.

You have to adjust your targets according to your resources, not the other way round.(unless you are really capable business person but that is another story...)

sry i can read, and i did try and understand where you were going. Aparently i missunderstood you or you me...

Anyways, lets take a look on part time games that got developed recently, FOM. Im sry but it didnt go well at all.

And unless you got alot of good friends, makeing a game like mo PART TIME alone, gonna take AGES.

Furthermore theres the issue about licesing the engine and other stuff.

I know the unreal engine SDK now is free, but it didnt used to be.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by qazqaz123

 
i have to agree / disagree with you there, ofc. a small budget new company wont have the wallet of Blizzard etc.
But they wont even get a chance if noone buys their product, even worse, with todays market and marketing budgets, many companies simply dont stand a chance at all.
 
If ppl wanned to donate, i really think they should have mad a donate button, it seems quite alot of ppl would give a extra dime here and there, to see a better product release.
 

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This has nothing to do with the size of your wallet, it is about management of money(resources) you have there, reasonable targets and market needs.

The truth and point is - big part of the business projects will fail.

i disagree a little there,

Starting up as your own in the mordern world, is all about cash.

No cash, no devs, 

no devs, no game.

No game = no  potential income.

'At one point you have to start, eiter by a loan, or by a big input of cash from somewhere! 

it dosnt come for free, not when ppl wants to be paid for work (for obvious reasons)

The long end of this: its all about budget.. then ofc. in some cases, even a big budget wont make a game. but its a good start :;)

Originally posted by kruler

Originally posted by qazqaz123

  Im wondering where the OP get all this tech knowledge from, how his reading the stuff wrong all the time, and why he focus so much energy in bashing all of Starvaults decessions.

Please come back to reality, if they think ATLAS is the right thing for their game, then mby it is.
Let them try and have a impact on how the future is shaped, if all we do is bash every company who tries everything new, all day. We end up with windowsME or Vista.!!!!

In fact if we are against all kind of development for PCs why not just play on a console! and get over with it?

/applaud............
 

For someone that had their help rejected by SV, he sure holds a grudge thats for sure.

wait, what kind of help did he do?