Originally posted by faxnadu
one does not simply care about this trash of an mmo auto path quest hub with oh so glorious " painting " profession and so on so called mmo.

This person nailed it and exactly why it isn't a sandbox...Nope not a sandbox and EVE sucks!

Originally posted by Waterlily

Graphic explanation:

 

What EQ felt like when you started playing in the 90s:

 

What current MMO feel like when you start playing:

 

That is so true! Love this post we need to take back our games.

I hope one of the will be good but to be honest I don't expect one of those games to meet my definition of a MMORPG or even the definition listed on WIKI.

Only game I am waiting for is Pathfinder Online.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Thorbrand

That is very true and because NA gamers are not MMO gamers. NA gamers are like children just learning what the world is. Bright colors, cartoon graphic, a lot of flash, and fluff that means nothing is what makes a NA gamer happy.

Here is a test: If you think housing is a cool feature in a MMO you are not a MMO gamer!

So instead of the classic "asian gamer" racism, we're just cleverly flipping it now?

Why not, they've been listening to ignorant Americans dismissing them as unimportant for long enough, I suppose.

I want to know why they region lock games so I am stuck playing NA version of games. Been gaming a long time and had to import many games from overseas to play the real versions or to get them instead of waiting for release in NA but that isn't allowed any longer.

Ever since WOW we have allowed casual gamers to dictate the direction of our MMOs. And there has never been a successful MMO...EVER!

10yrs of total crap gamers, lieing Devs, and over marketed fluff that we have no idea what a game is in NA any longer. Lets just make everyone happy...You can not do this in a game and putting advanced gamers with casual gamers is what truly ruins a game since by definition a game is about skill (Either mental or Physical) not entertainment. But we Americans are to lazy to have to put effort in anything.

OH I never had Asian game racism since I knew that they always made the true games and they use to be the only ones that made RPGs. Always hated NA games and they are just getting worse.

That is very true and because NA gamers are not MMO gamers. NA gamers are like children just learning what the world is. Bright colors, cartoon graphic, a lot of flash, and fluff that means nothing is what makes a NA gamer happy.

Here is a test: If you think housing is a cool feature in a MMO you are not a MMO gamer!

Can't say anything about being the greatest MMO since WOW. But why on earth would anyone use WOW as a refer. Let's see the greatest MMO since AC or EQ1. We all know even WOW was subpar to the real MMORPGs before it. Not that it didn't make some good changes for MMOs but a great game it was not once BGs go put in.

I can list my top 10 MMOs and maybe one or two would be since WOW and those most gamers would have never played because this site doesn't really support true MMOs that are coming our or that have been released.

FFXIV have bad mechanics on first release. Will I be playing ARR? Yes because I don't have to pay anything to do this. I did like the first one a lot but it was broken. Will it be better than was we have seen? We have no idea since anything said about a game before it launches is nothing but bullshit and shouldn't be believed by anyone. Been suckered for years waiting for anything to be a MMO since WOW killed the market.

I hope it is a great game and I can't wait to get in a play but really we have no idea if it will be worth the hard drive it is developed on.

Not the devs fault it is a gamers fault. We all got lumped into the same category and haven't done anything about it. We keep throwing them money so they are happy. All started when we allowed casuals gamers to dictate how games should develop and our refusal to pay high sub fees to pay for having a true MMORPG to exist. Everything is just so dumbed down that they are boing to play, no challenges, no epic content, no gm events, no social network, all made to play selfishly and solo.

Oh don't forget region locks now so I can't play the Asian versions of games that come out and have to play the dumbed down NA version which has always sucked.