Originally posted by Aragon100

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

 

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

 

 

Originally posted by downtoearth

Why dont you stop saying things you really dont know what your talking about and just wait abit longer

Why don't you? I constantly see you "guaranteeing" Darkfall will do this, Darkfall will do that. You "guarantee" Darkfall beta is coming up. You "guarantee" alot of shit YOU don't know what you're talking about. You know no more than anyone else in this forum. Your little snippets here and there trying to insinuate that you have some sort of secret knowledge about Darkfall and what is happening with it has gone beyond laughable and is now just plain annoying. Not to mention you are THE biggest blind fanboi I've ever seen in this forum section.

 

 

 

At least when I debate with the other fans of Darkfall here, most of them are willing to concede on certain points, and I have conceded on a few myself. You, on the other hand, handle debate by doing the virtual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "NYAA! NYAA! NYAA! I can't hear you 'cause you're wrong and I'm right no matter what!!" like a 3 year old who didn't get his cookie.

 

So before you try talking more smack to others about what people do and don't know about, check out a mirror and introduce yourself: pot, meet kettle.

While you're at it "Downtoearth" (which for the record is a hilarious name for someone do dillusional) introduce yourself to an english textbook. Learn the language, learn sentence structure, and for god's sakes learn to SPELL!!!

 

Zorvan I couldn't have put it better if I tried. The thing is Darkfall has reached cult status, and Downtoearth and Aragon100 will be drinking the Koolaid by the time this is all over.

By the way Aragon100 they have in fact been developing the game since 2001. Just because they decided to start over in 2003 doesn't mean they weren't making "Darkfall" for that first 2 years. So go ahead and shut up about it already. From 01 to 03 they were most definitely still developing a game called Darkfall, I don't care who was making it, it was being made. So stop throwing that around as if other people are stupid for saying it. You are stupid for thinking otherwise. Here's an idea, have an opinion of your own. Start making educated judgements, and stop regurgitating the crap that Adventurine has been feeding you.

Now, on topic, the screens actually look miles ahead of the last batch I saw. Staged or not, at least things are looking a bit better....the dwarves especially.

 

If i were you i wouldnt be that fast to to jump on someones spellings. Ever heard of dyslexia? And to be honest why do you drop so low that you instead of discuss whats said, and i do believe you understood downtoearth perfectly well,  you jump on grammar and spellings?

If i were a moderator i would kick you out of these boards asap.

And youre wrong, you didnt even bother to read up on the info i served you. Darkfall game restarted mid 2003. So the development time is 5 years this summer, summer 2008, whether you like it or not=)

And guess what, i do believe what i can read up on the Devs info then listening to a guy like you that is having assumptions about this and that. I say it again, read up on the game info available and stop making a fool out of yourself.

And the critic on spelling was a really low statement from you. If i were you id be appologizing asap.

Okay, I will apologize for getting on him for spelling. That is uncalled for, and I posted that out of being annoyed after trying to read through those responses, but all of that aside I have nothing against Darkfall either way. If it releases good for the fans, if not too bad for them, but it has actually been in development since 01. Restarting doesn't restart the clock...could you imagine a pro sports team "restarting" a play, and expecting the timer to restart?

I remember when gear was an afterthought, and grouping was meaningful. You would be in a group with the same people for hours on end, and had downtime to talk and actually build friendships.

I remember my first guild, Well of Souls, and how nice everyone was. It seemed there was ALWAYS someone willing to help out, and as a result I was always willing to help someone else.

I remember being younger and having time to play as opposed to working every day, and having to sleep and pay bills. =/

I remember the slower pace of the game, and how level cap was a dream (which I never reached BTW) and seemed soooo far off.

I also remember dinging 20 and having a GM give me my surname. I remember him denying 1 or 2 before I got mine too =P

I remember gobbies in HH, and getting a sword off of one that I actually used.

I remember getting a Black iron bastard sword, and scarab carapace breastplate  from my guild and it being like christmas.

So many good memories from EQ, and there are millions where that came from. I do have hope that one day a game will come out with a world similar to norrath, that can inspire so many emotions. Norrath could inspire Awe, fear, greed, happiness, and so much more. Adventures were REAL back then because they were unscripted, unknown, and you had the freedom to explore at will. I sincerely hope that one day a game will come out to match, or rival EQ but I don't see it happening for a while. MMO's are mainstream now which means that, at least for the time being until the fad passes, there will be a definitive style to all games that come out. It's the same thing with music, or movies. Remember when every stupid movie that came out was about some natural disaster that pwns the world?

Originally posted by Liss

Walking through Freeport on my DE enchanter in illusion high elf laughing evily to myself.

Camping the sirens in OoT.

Chilling on the newbie log in Nektulos.

Realizing that my Troll bst's croc would never get big....at all.....

I also remember running around invis as my DE necro in freeport and sneaking up behind people and telling them I was a DE. BTW I played on a PvP server so these people would then search desperately for me to try and kill me =P

I remember my first trek to Kunark, and how awesome it was to dodge the spiders and swim down the river. A real sense of adventure there, unlike these modern games that lead you from place to place. I miss not knowing where the heck I should be, and wandering into a zone WAY too high for me.

Oh, and boy do I remember Lavastorm....

Originally posted by Chiram

As much of a fan as I am of the series and how badly I want this game to be launched, I cannot bring myself to enjoying those pics. They look horrible in almost every aspect minus the character models ( and even then some of them seem very pixelated).

You don't sound very excited, or very much like a fan of anything.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Anofalye

The devs will react this way:

 

- Cool we can do whatever we want and Teala will remain with us.

 

Devs are as simple as players.  If you hug a dog who pooh on the floor, he will continues to pooh on the floor.  It must be clear, direct, a link.  This is why guilds often get their ways with devs...if 2 or 3 guilds hit the cancel buttons, devs listen.  Even if these guilds are a minority and don't represent the majority in anyway, the devs, the simplest one, understand what these guilds are saying.

 

I feel sorry, both for you, and for Vanguard.  Cause I am sure some peoples does like you...and devs never learn.  They never learn about what is good, and what is not.  What makes the mass plays, and what doesn't.

I was really going to cancel.  I had my cursor over the cancel subscription and  Iwas like...I can't believe you're going to do it.   Then  Iasked myself OK Kristi what game is going to take Vanguards place?  I ran through al lthe other games I have played like Lineage II, Guild Wars, Dark Age of Camelot, Star Wars Galaxies, EverQuest, EverQuest II, Shadowbane, Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online, Horizons, World of Borecraft, Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Burning Sea, etc, etc, etc, and none of them can touch this game.   None offer what I feel this game offers.   Vanguard truly does have this epic like feel to it.  I know people hate it, and I know others do not feel as I do about it...but it really is how I feel despite my love hate relationship with the developers of the game and SOE in general.   God I swear if I could raise the  capitol to purchase the game from SOE and then hire developers to work on the game - OMG....I'd do it in a heart beat that is how much I love the game and how much potential I see in it.   ::shrugs::  Call me crazy...doesn't matter...I found my game - finally found the one game that I truly do love to play and you know what I am sticking with it.   I'll endure the Silius's and the Smedley's and the broken promises and everything else I have to because I really enjoy this game.

It doesn't sound to me like you "finally found the game for you" seeing as you had already found it, played it, and were ready to cancel.

Maybe it's like one of those movies where a guy and girl meet, become best friends, and then right when the girl is getting married the guy realizes he loves the girl and then shows up at the wedding and ruins the potential grooms life by stealing the woman he loves.....yeah, maybe it s something like that =P

Originally posted by Kyleran

You have Vista? if so, try opening it as an administrator.

 

Nope, using standard old XP.

Originally posted by Souldrainer

I double checked skeleton HD. Medium skeletons get 1HD, and have 1 HD worth of HPs in DDO. Starting characters in DDO get 30-ish HP. Generously assuming mean rolls of 5 on the HD, PC's in DDO have 5-6 HD. I was assuming that this would be 1/3 of starting HD in DDO, but perhaps not. Maybe I "misinterpreted" the direction they were going when they intentionally raped the rules for starting HP? It's possible. That's what happens when you change things.

And yeah, the changes they made are big enough to impact my opinion of the game. Why can't my fighter charge opponents? Where is the spiked chain? What about Dragonmarked Houses?

 

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Originally posted by TedDanson
Oh cry more. Seriously, you cannot compare the tabletop game to an MMO, atleast not pre ruleset 4. If you want to play online with DnD rules wait till they release the online client with version 4. Until then move on and shut up. No one cares that you and your miniatures are upset about the differences between TABLE TOP and DESK TOP....
 
If you cannot see the difference there then you need to stick to the dungeon you call a house and play with your 40 year old friends in tabletop only.

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"Cry more"- statement made on the internet by a whiner wishing to immediately declare the text which follows as a troll.

 

DDO labels itself as D&D online. THIS is why it fails. As a stand alone MMO, it has improved and become better than say 80% of what's out there, but as "Dungeons and Dragons" Online, it is a waste of my time.

 

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DDO definitely captures the spirit of the D&D game, both through quests and its interpretation of the rules.

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Man, you must have had some crappy DM's then. The quests and world are static. I think it comes close as far as static dungeons, but if the 4th Edition software delivers as promised, you will see the difference. A bland voice reading a script ala Ben Stein is no match for the real thing. In a good D&D campaign, the story evolves and revolves around your personal set of characters. In DDO, the dungeons and plots do not evolve in any way. For this game to capture the feel of PnP, the story MUST be dynamic IMO. Perhaps I expected too much, but if the devs had waited to release DDO until things were ready, it's a goal they could have worked on.

 

 

I finally downloaded my client and extracted once the download was done, but not when I open the folder that it was extracted to the .exe file in there doesn't do anything. I double click it and the little hour glass comes up, but then nothing happens. Can anyone help me with this?

Originally posted by Souldrainer

 

Originally posted by pfloydguy84
so you're saying the game sucks cause you dont like the cleric class in DDO?kinda narrow minded...

How did you get that out of my post?  I realize that interpretations vary, but what you are interpreting and what I said are not even in the same ball park.  The game sucks because they are not using D&D mechanics.  They are using some arbitrary system to run the whole game.  Did I say "run?"  I meant "RUIN."

 

Just for future reference, you can't argue that it would be hard to convert D20 to an MMO.  If you did, you would lose.  Plenty of games have used D&D rules, and Baldur's Gate used the THAC0 system, which was 10 times more complex than D20.  That is why DDO = Epic fail.

If you cannot see the difference there then you need to stick to the dungeon you call a house and play with your 40 year old friends in tabletop only.

I agree that a re-review would be good just to revisit the game and give a more accurate description of where it is at current to people looking to try it out.

I don't know what everyone is talking about anyways. When I played VG back before GU#3 I felt that the customization was horrible anyways. There were 4 stupid looking faces, 4 stupid looking haircuts, and 5000000 sliders that changed nothing.

They couldn't remove customization from the game because it wasn't ever there. Everyone looked the same, and they still do.

To the OP I'm sorry that they finally lost you, but hopefully you can move on to a game that suits you better, and is actually ready for release. VG is still in Beta more than a year after release. Despite what anyone says that is completely unacceptable. To the idiot that posted earlier saying that is the nature of any MMO you are dead wrong. I've played almost every mmo to date since EQ1 and I can tell you that MMO's change, you are right about that, but paying for Beta is not the nature of the genre. You are stupid, and you are making excuses for paying for something that isn't ready to be paid for. Sorry for your ignorance, but I'm not ready to pay for beta.

Originally posted by greymann

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

 

Originally posted by greymann

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

 

Originally posted by greymann

Originally posted by Shifty360

 

Originally posted by greymann

Grats on the vid BTW but how close to release do we have to wait to finally see some impressive gameplay vids?

They are waiting for you, and only you to give up on following WAR. They have some potential playerbase bugs and they need to clear things up before they release any more videos. 

This "warhammer came before warcraft" garbage only makes WAR fans sound dumb.  Who cares about the dating of lore?  It certainly doesn't make one developer better than another... nerds.  Fact is wow came before WAR.  WAR, unless the most rabid fans are right, will probably always live in wow's shadow.

Actually, Warhammer HAS been around for 25 years. We are not comparing the MMOs but only the reasons they look similar. aka. Art, Lore, Concepts, "Cartooniness"

When Blizzard was a small company they applied for access to the Warhammer IP. At this time they were in the process of creating a Warhammer lore based game. Upon failing to please Games Workshop with thier plans for the game (we know how protective GW is), Games Workshop denied Blizzard (Blizzard wanted to modify too much of the lore).

After being rejected by Games Workshop, Blizzard simply relabed and changed the content they had already created in the Warhammer based game, and thus you have "Warcraft".

(I have a sneaking suspicion that this conversation will soon turn into an infamous WoW has 10 million subscribers attempt at an auto-arguement-win).

Regardless, if you would like for me to point out the obvious, I will introduce the the ideas stolen from the World of Warhammer in the form of pictures (followed by an accompanying explaination).

 

EDIT: Almost forgot........

Congrats on calling everyone here a nerd. We all appreciate it, but I am sure many of us are wondering......

"If you are on the MMORPG Forums, and label everyone (but yourself) a Nerd. What heretic-a-hypocritical nonsense is this? Blashphemy I say!"

 

Oh nice try.  It's obvious I'm not calling everyone a nerd on the entire site forum.  I quote you in your pretty blue text: "Warcraft itself is in fact a poor spinoff of Warhammer lore. I am sure you knew nothing of Warhammer before you started wasting your time with WoW and this is the cause of the misunderstanding."

You presume to identify with everone in these forums after making such an asinine statement full of your own fringe, personal opinion?  Don't worry. It's only you and the few who say outrageous things like this I called nerd. 

Maybe they did rip off warhammer and god bless em for it!  Seems to me GW's refusal to provide their IP is the best thing that could have happened.  Maybe the fact that they did so well dispite that is what has warhammies all worked up.  What has warhammer given to video gamers that comes even close to what blizzard has?  If your ire at blizz is so terrible that it keeps you from having fun in some great games then you get to be a nerd.  Why don't we just hold off for now.  When warhammer is released we can actually compare game to game.   So far you have nothing to show but some decent animations and I guess some lore that got matched and given to the masses in the form of some great games.

Why is someone a nerd because they didn't have fun in a game that you liked? You post all of this pseudo intellectual bull, but then act under the ignorant assumption that your opinion is the only one that is valid.

 

You sir are a nerd of the worst caliber....one that WoW has only made more prominent...the Elitest A-hole Nerd. Congrats on your new "Hero Class", or hero nerd class. Pomposity will get you nowhere my friend, we are all fans of the same genre of gaming. To most of society we are all nerds because of our chosen form of entertainment. Stop trying to seperate yourself, and please for the love of god stop trying to condescend.

 

"Warcraft itself is in fact a poor spinoff of Warhammer lore. I am sure you knew nothing of Warhammer before you started wasting your time with WoW and this is the cause of the misunderstanding."

It doesn't get any more condescending then that.  Why just because he didn't have fun in a game I liked does he have to poo poo it?  I say "poo poo" because I wouldn't want to be accused of pseudo intellectualism.  Besides, his only beef is some obscure corporate history as if that should turn people from wow.  If you don't understand why I should have a problem with his position then it's only because you chose sides before the arguement even began. 

All this nerd talk is starting to get funny.  You know you've stepped in some when people actually start getting offended over the "n" word.  Guys guys guys.  I really hope your game does well and that it gets me to switch.  I'm tired of wow.  Just stop with the hyping and trash talking until you can actually prove the game is a better mmo than wow. 

You see, I choose no side, I only responded to what I thought was unnecessary aggression. I don't think he had any right to assume anything about you, but it's the constant cries of "WoW-clone!!!1111111!!!1 ZOMG!!!" over and over and over and over and over again on these forums that get these guys so angry.

 

Plainly put, and without any bias (as I was once a subscriber of WoW and personally have no issue with the game or with Blizzard), WoW's visual style is a derivative of Wahammer's art style that has been around since before Blizzard entertainment was a twinkle in it's creator's eyes. You cannot clone something that is in and of itself a clone of your own product. That would be like cloning yourself, and then cloning your clone, but hating the second clone because it is too similar to the 1st which was in fact similar to you in every way. 
 

Personally, I've always loved WoW's graphic style, and the way that the entire world lives and breathes in one cohesive art style. Every blade of grass is Azeroth, and I love that so I am personally ecstatic that Mythic kept that art style in their depiction of the Warhammer world. I am, however, glad they've upped the poly count, and made things a bit moodier, but thats just a personal preferrence.

Oh, and as a response to something you said a few posts back about WAR 'living in WoW's shadow" I'll say this; Every release from here on out will unavoidably be compared to, and subsequently live in the shadow of WoW. 10 million subs, even including the 5 million chinese farmers, and dual accounts is an insanely large shadow....

*important note*

The chinese farmer comment is purely a joke please do not misconstrue....

 

When the first warhammer screens and vid game out I was impressed by the darker, grittier characters and atmosphere.  I've been less and less impressed with consecutive media.  It seems lifeless.  I can get more detailed but don't want to bore you if you already know what I mean.  All that aside I think they could pull enough people from wow mainly with a better pvp system.  If the gameplay though seems too cloned it will not do well.  This game needs people from wow as much as we hate to admit it, as well as new players who will likely be comparing the two and chosing one over the other.  Just please god don't ask me to order EAgame's site.  Never again.

RVR will definitely define WAR's success, or lack there of. I played Daoc for a few months back when it first came out, and loved that aspect of the game. My fear is that there will be a lack of meaningful World PVP in WAR, as they are going to have instanced scenarios from early on.

Originally posted by admiralnlson

omg, why can't any of the fanboys get this...

Any game can be a WoW-clone if it clones the game mechanics.
Who cares about the lore?

OK Warcraft uses the lore of Warhammer. But any game, including WAR, can be a clone of WoW if is uses its mechanics.

geez

Ever heard of a little something called EQ?

I will say this though, WoW's quest delivery system was in it's time very innovative, and for that I will concede that most games are cloning that one idea. I've played pretty much every MMO to day, aside from EVE and other sci fi games, and none before that I had played had that quest system.

Originally posted by greymann

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

 

Originally posted by greymann

Originally posted by Shifty360

 

Originally posted by greymann

Grats on the vid BTW but how close to release do we have to wait to finally see some impressive gameplay vids?

They are waiting for you, and only you to give up on following WAR. They have some potential playerbase bugs and they need to clear things up before they release any more videos. 

This "warhammer came before warcraft" garbage only makes WAR fans sound dumb.  Who cares about the dating of lore?  It certainly doesn't make one developer better than another... nerds.  Fact is wow came before WAR.  WAR, unless the most rabid fans are right, will probably always live in wow's shadow.

Actually, Warhammer HAS been around for 25 years. We are not comparing the MMOs but only the reasons they look similar. aka. Art, Lore, Concepts, "Cartooniness"

When Blizzard was a small company they applied for access to the Warhammer IP. At this time they were in the process of creating a Warhammer lore based game. Upon failing to please Games Workshop with thier plans for the game (we know how protective GW is), Games Workshop denied Blizzard (Blizzard wanted to modify too much of the lore).

After being rejected by Games Workshop, Blizzard simply relabed and changed the content they had already created in the Warhammer based game, and thus you have "Warcraft".

(I have a sneaking suspicion that this conversation will soon turn into an infamous WoW has 10 million subscribers attempt at an auto-arguement-win).

Regardless, if you would like for me to point out the obvious, I will introduce the the ideas stolen from the World of Warhammer in the form of pictures (followed by an accompanying explaination).

 

EDIT: Almost forgot........

Congrats on calling everyone here a nerd. We all appreciate it, but I am sure many of us are wondering......

"If you are on the MMORPG Forums, and label everyone (but yourself) a Nerd. What heretic-a-hypocritical nonsense is this? Blashphemy I say!"

 

Oh nice try.  It's obvious I'm not calling everyone a nerd on the entire site forum.  I quote you in your pretty blue text: "Warcraft itself is in fact a poor spinoff of Warhammer lore. I am sure you knew nothing of Warhammer before you started wasting your time with WoW and this is the cause of the misunderstanding."

You presume to identify with everone in these forums after making such an asinine statement full of your own fringe, personal opinion?  Don't worry. It's only you and the few who say outrageous things like this I called nerd. 

Maybe they did rip off warhammer and god bless em for it!  Seems to me GW's refusal to provide their IP is the best thing that could have happened.  Maybe the fact that they did so well dispite that is what has warhammies all worked up.  What has warhammer given to video gamers that comes even close to what blizzard has?  If your ire at blizz is so terrible that it keeps you from having fun in some great games then you get to be a nerd.  Why don't we just hold off for now.  When warhammer is released we can actually compare game to game.   So far you have nothing to show but some decent animations and I guess some lore that got matched and given to the masses in the form of some great games.

Why is someone a nerd because they didn't have fun in a game that you liked? You post all of this pseudo intellectual bull, but then act under the ignorant assumption that your opinion is the only one that is valid.

 

You sir are a nerd of the worst caliber....one that WoW has only made more prominent...the Elitest A-hole Nerd. Congrats on your new "Hero Class", or hero nerd class. Pomposity will get you nowhere my friend, we are all fans of the same genre of gaming. To most of society we are all nerds because of our chosen form of entertainment. Stop trying to seperate yourself, and please for the love of god stop trying to condescend.

 

"Warcraft itself is in fact a poor spinoff of Warhammer lore. I am sure you knew nothing of Warhammer before you started wasting your time with WoW and this is the cause of the misunderstanding."

It doesn't get any more condescending then that.  Why just because he didn't have fun in a game I liked does he have to poo poo it?  I say "poo poo" because I wouldn't want to be accused of pseudo intellectualism.  Besides, his only beef is some obscure corporate history as if that should turn people from wow.  If you don't understand why I should have a problem with his position then it's only because you chose sides before the arguement even began. 

All this nerd talk is starting to get funny.  You know you've stepped in some when people actually start getting offended over the "n" word.  Guys guys guys.  I really hope your game does well and that it gets me to switch.  I'm tired of wow.  Just stop with the hyping and trash talking until you can actually prove the game is a better mmo than wow. 

Plainly put, and without any bias (as I was once a subscriber of WoW and personally have no issue with the game or with Blizzard), WoW's visual style is a derivative of Wahammer's art style that has been around since before Blizzard entertainment was a twinkle in it's creator's eyes. You cannot clone something that is in and of itself a clone of your own product. That would be like cloning yourself, and then cloning your clone, but hating the second clone because it is too similar to the 1st which was in fact similar to you in every way. 
 

Personally, I've always loved WoW's graphic style, and the way that the entire world lives and breathes in one cohesive art style. Every blade of grass is Azeroth, and I love that so I am personally ecstatic that Mythic kept that art style in their depiction of the Warhammer world. I am, however, glad they've upped the poly count, and made things a bit moodier, but thats just a personal preferrence.

Oh, and as a response to something you said a few posts back about WAR 'living in WoW's shadow" I'll say this; Every release from here on out will unavoidably be compared to, and subsequently live in the shadow of WoW. 10 million subs, even including the 5 million chinese farmers, and dual accounts is an insanely large shadow....

*important note*

The chinese farmer comment is purely a joke please do not misconstrue....

Originally posted by greymann

Originally posted by Shifty360

 

Originally posted by greymann

Grats on the vid BTW but how close to release do we have to wait to finally see some impressive gameplay vids?

They are waiting for you, and only you to give up on following WAR. They have some potential playerbase bugs and they need to clear things up before they release any more videos. 

This "warhammer came before warcraft" garbage only makes WAR fans sound dumb.  Who cares about the dating of lore?  It certainly doesn't make one developer better than another... nerds.  Fact is wow came before WAR.  WAR, unless the most rabid fans are right, will probably always live in wow's shadow.

Actually, Warhammer HAS been around for 25 years. We are not comparing the MMOs but only the reasons they look similar. aka. Art, Lore, Concepts, "Cartooniness"

When Blizzard was a small company they applied for access to the Warhammer IP. At this time they were in the process of creating a Warhammer lore based game. Upon failing to please Games Workshop with thier plans for the game (we know how protective GW is), Games Workshop denied Blizzard (Blizzard wanted to modify too much of the lore).

After being rejected by Games Workshop, Blizzard simply relabed and changed the content they had already created in the Warhammer based game, and thus you have "Warcraft".

(I have a sneaking suspicion that this conversation will soon turn into an infamous WoW has 10 million subscribers attempt at an auto-arguement-win).

Regardless, if you would like for me to point out the obvious, I will introduce the the ideas stolen from the World of Warhammer in the form of pictures (followed by an accompanying explaination).

 

EDIT: Almost forgot........

Congrats on calling everyone here a nerd. We all appreciate it, but I am sure many of us are wondering......

"If you are on the MMORPG Forums, and label everyone (but yourself) a Nerd. What heretic-a-hypocritical nonsense is this? Blashphemy I say!"

 

Oh nice try.  It's obvious I'm not calling everyone a nerd on the entire site forum.  I quote you in your pretty blue text: "Warcraft itself is in fact a poor spinoff of Warhammer lore. I am sure you knew nothing of Warhammer before you started wasting your time with WoW and this is the cause of the misunderstanding."

You presume to identify with everone in these forums after making such an asinine statement full of your own fringe, personal opinion?  Don't worry. It's only you and the few who say outrageous things like this I called nerd. 

Maybe they did rip off warhammer and god bless em for it!  Seems to me GW's refusal to provide their IP is the best thing that could have happened.  Maybe the fact that they did so well dispite that is what has warhammies all worked up.  What has warhammer given to video gamers that comes even close to what blizzard has?  If your ire at blizz is so terrible that it keeps you from having fun in some great games then you get to be a nerd.  Why don't we just hold off for now.  When warhammer is released we can actually compare game to game.   So far you have nothing to show but some decent animations and I guess some lore that got matched and given to the masses in the form of some great games.

You sir are a nerd of the worst caliber....one that WoW has only made more prominent...the Elitest A-hole Nerd. Congrats on your new "Hero Class", or hero nerd class. Pomposity will get you nowhere my friend, we are all fans of the same genre of gaming. To most of society we are all nerds because of our chosen form of entertainment. Stop trying to seperate yourself, and please for the love of god stop trying to condescend.

Looks pretty good. The animations are stellar, my personal favorite is the rogue type guy that stabs the dude in the back of his neck.

My only concern from watching that video is the lack of movement in combat. Everyone was just standing still swinging like crazy, but it's a beta video so I am hopeful they will have everything ready for launch.

Originally posted by Katashi-kun

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

You sure showed them! Take that 20 dollars, and your self righteous indignation and show the world!!!!!

 

LOL

I live in South Florida so there are about 50 Gamestops in my area, and the employees vary greatly at each one.

Originally posted by wjrasmussen

Originally posted by sirslayerr

Unless I'm mistaken, Ted Danson hasn't been the name of a sitcom character before. The name is mostly known for the actor Ted Danson who plays the roles of a character on many sitcoms, as well as many movies.

Please give me a reference as to where there is a sitcom character named Ted Danson.

I'm going to make a SW named Orlando Bloom, just to spite you. :-P

brain fart on my part.  Was suppose to be actor.lol.

You still have not answered my question.

You sure showed them! Take that 20 dollars, and your self righteous indignation and show the world!!!!!

Originally posted by wjrasmussen

 

Originally posted by TedDanson

 

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Nice vid but really it is only a cgi vid which doesn't prove a thing and yes I did laugh at the music :) I also noticed the comments under the youtube vid as to people saying too bad the game won't be as dark as the original setting. Sorry but forever Warhammer will be labeled as a WOW 1.5 RvR/DAOC rehash with slightly better game play and graphics version because Mythic so wants to be like WOW and take their players away which will not happen.

Since when has Mythic become a great mmo developer ? They never have been. They made DAOC which only got max 200k players after a year and since that time they been at massive decline since then. The Warhammer ip is a great one but unfortunately the wrong people are making it.  

When will the sheep learn that subscription numbers are not indicative of a "good MMO"? Just because DAOC didnt have 10 million subs means nothing of how the game was. In fact, back then 200k subs was decent. EQ was king back then, and they only had about 500k subs or something so really you have to skew the perspective. 

 

When I read posts like yours I want to print a picture of your face out and tape it to my monitor so I can punch it into oblivion.

Just as little or no subscription number doesn't mean the game is good.

 

Subscriptions are concrete, they can be measured.  It is a reasonable basis to operate in the real world.  If not concrete values, what does that leave us?  How about a measurement based on EMO bois named after sitcom characters?

What exactly is an Emo boi? The mention of sitcom characters made me realize you were referrencing me when you said "EMO bois" so it lead me to wonder what the hell that meant. Please enlighten me...

Originally posted by Nomatica

Originally posted by nethervoid

 

Originally posted by Nomatica

Why do people keep bringing up vanguard? Vanguard failed for many other reasons. 1. Terrible preformance. I am hearing from people that age of conan will run like guildwars. Great graphics but easy on the computer. One thing AOC has that VG doesnt is server lines that will tremendously help preformance.

 

2. Funcom is a more experenced company in mmorpgs then the ones that made vanguard. Anarchy online was a pretty good mmo so im hoping to see that funcom took lessons on what they did wrong and right in their last mmo and do things better with AOC.

 

1.  Vanguard has server lines - You just can't see them

2.  The makers of Vanguard made EQ - Sounds like at least the same amount of experience or maybe more depending on how you look at it

The real problem with most of the failures since EQ is promising content the budget can't deliver.  If AoC has a problem it will most definitely be linked with this previous statement...and it's so common it's just not surprising at all anymore.  I actually expect it now.

It wasnt made by the same people that made EQ was it? I dont remember verant being involved.

As far as I remember Brad Mcquaid was head designer of EQ at Verant. He then left and started Sigl entertainment and began work on Vanguard. Which would, in fact, make him the same person who created EQ.