thats great^^

played the both betas perpetual and Heatwave.

hope the will not cut the Scout and Nomad , 6 classes are better then 4, for sure !!!!

agree , the pet/minion system is really alot of fun !!!

Happy that the game is in new Hands (Heatwave) , was in the CB under Perpetual and now i am in again under Heatwave ! :)

Love that Game, it is different from other MMO's , so far.

The Dev's from Heatwave are doing a very good and carefully job to keep games athmosphere !!

I am a afterworkplayer, so it isnt fun, if you have only 1, 2-3 hours an evening, and you have to grind. if you need 1 hour or more to form a grp to do a quest/instance , believe it isnt fun.

If you can grind only , cause there are no players in your lvl range and you lack a masterquest for special items, believe it , its no fun.

To run from a to b, and back and to c its no fun, its like grind again.

I think thats the mainproblem of any MMÖ, so many games appear on the market, with less or better graphic, but the main thing is allways the same.

to make a game really adventures, you would need a staff , who would add every week new content/events/items, To produce that it not possible without a big raise of Fee for play, so its also a question , whether the gameers will pay a higher fee ( for example 50 bucks per month, or something like that ), i think its impossible to handle that.

Aplayer like me is more a soloplayer, so its importaant to have fun in the time i play, and not to put the mainpoint on grp or guildplaying, there is a lot to think about, what is possible to change or develop in future games, with different kind of gamplay as it is today, maybe a  big thread for sampling ideas could be fun :)

greetings

hehe, anyone remebers  Darkandlight   , the pioneer and the launchdays, and no Ati- graphiccard support ?

:)

Hello all,

hehe, just returned to VG last week, found my old Chars still alive, played them last time on 09/07/2007  !!

so I'm back now and its fun.

Yes, population is a bit low (play on Halgar), tried the lfg/lfm function and didn't get any reply from other players, its ok.

Just found a nice Guild and all the lvl 55 players in there are helpfull to my low level Chars.

Yes, now I remember why I left the game in 2007, there isn't enough Solocontent for most solo players, like me...; it's not a gamefun killing point, but it would be better to have some more.

Specially, if you want to get some good Armor/Weapon you will need the help of a full group !!

The items you find , while grinding are mostly not your class and have low value.

The graphic is beautyfull (it doesn't matter that the game comes in the years ;)   ), and i like the detailed items,armor, weapon,etc. I can't run it with fully attached sliders to the right on my old PC, but that isn't a bad point , too.

All in all the game has grown, mistakes in leveling the different ways, like diplomatic, crafting , and so on are eliminated, as I saw so far on my first view.

So I am happy to be a part of it, and I hope to meet some of you there  :)

greetings

played Vanguard  2years ago, sometimes I miss my ranger lvl 53 , which is deleted *sigh*, or my lvl 45 Bloodmage (again *sigh*, slaps head and knocks head on the edge of desk =)   ).

played other mmo's in between......., maybe i should return and start again.

sigh, we are living in the 21st century !

so for what......... its a controversey ?

Thats why,  3feel will never find a "western" investor :)

greetings 

It's simple: if you preorder a game online , they have the numbers of players they will join on startup, but if you sell all arround the world , preorderboxes for the preorder startup you lose controll on the casual buyers of that box. So you dont know about the players, which will join on startup for the preorderheadstart. Additionally all this preorderboxbuyers (what a word :)  ) maybe want to download the game online, all that rises traffic on the servers , for downloads patching, loggging into the game , and so on.

so, they fumbled the ball :) , erm startup i want say :))

Anyway i like Aion the graphics, the gameplay, all in all its a good Idea and Game, no doubt.

But I expect from a company like NCsoft , which has launched a game like Lineage2 and Guild Wars, and lot other Games, that they can handle the demand of players to use their preorder keys and log into the game and download the client, etc.

Thats why people preorder to have a little advantage or whatever, otherwise there is no reason to preorder the game, if can't log into it.

Ok complained enough :))

I wish the best for the game , cause i canceled on sunday 20.09.2009 my account maybe jump into the game after a year or so...

hope it will not walk the same way down as Tabula Rasa did :)

best regards

from 1-20 i never felt bored, the game is fun , specially the graphics are a Highlight (depends on the PC you play with ;)  )

the quests are fun to play , in higher level you need a grp, fine there is a grp-finder included,makes it easy to find a grp. Not many people used it while beta , but i guess after release it will be used more often.

to compare a new MMO with an existing MMO has pros and cons, and will never do justice to one of the MMO.

I prefer to take any MMO , like it is , as a new MMO with his own characterism  :)

So, i like Aion and i will up to play after release.

mfg

PS.: Wow sucks :=)

 

 

I voted simple. WoW is the only MMO here, with everyone else trying to copy them...except for the Asian Grinders.

WOW isnt the first MMO , EQ2 and Lineage are out long before... :D

I would never compare wow with another game in this Genre , they copy at least all from another, cause it depends on that Genre. At least all these game copy from the book Lord of the rings :D , which is biggest quest ever, bring the ring from point A to point B :D

dunno which game i decide for myself.... maybe ...... hmm lets see the list again

greetings

Hello, I am from the german Fraktion and I just have to say :

in germany the game is only available in a "cutted" version (*), 5 final moves are not available, when i read the german forums, many of the german players buyed a german key and a UK - key, because the UKversion is uncut, and upgrade their accounts to uncut. Finally most of them just buyed 2 versions , to use /claim for the ingame items.

1 player - 2 keys , i dont know how many german players are existing :)

(*) these 5 final moves are prohibited by german law for youth

thx, for reading, greetings

played it for 21 days / from 1-61

a little disapointed, a working crafting system had make a compansation to the grinding part of the game above lvl 60.

a funbug : however , which key I assigned to  action : sit/stand it doesnt work  :)) / to sit on a chair in the tavern ends in relog, cause the char couldnt stand up from the chair using any key  W,S,A.D :))

so far so good, the game isnt bad, but the bugs and not implemented things kills the playfun.

end of it: account canceled before the end of 30 days freeplay

greetings

ihave played a lot of games in the mmorpgheaven :), but i never played WoW.... :=)

the reason: i read only the flame on the forums about griefing on the battlefield for the honourpoints , and so on...

a colleague is playing Wow, he sterted later playing , as I did in Vanguard, his Char is much higher then mine , thats another reason not to play Wow. It is to easy... :)

Another thing is , to compare games is , same to compare soccerteams, they all play soccer, but who has intent it ? :)) The genre of Fantasy games, like Wow, EQ, Vanguard , or , or , or doesnt depend on one developer.Each game has his own advantages and mistakes, thats true. So I see each game as its own, and never compare it to anaother, sometimes a game i played , it is in my mind a pearl i discovered, but this is a subjective meaning....

All in all i think this discussion isnt worth.

No harm meant :))

greetings

Another option for soloing players could be an button in charaktercreation, there u have to decide, wether that char is for soloing or grouping/guild, that could take influence on the Items/coins/XP while playing. For example the Items(armour/weapon) are resticted with a no sell tag (exept sell to NPC). Most replys here are describe that most players have only a part of time to play and dont want  search a long time for groups.Another thing is that in a persistent world the players change by hour arround the worldtime, some of the player i meet only on the weekend, if i have time to play maybe at my local nighttime :), so its not possible to have allways the same players at the sametime on the same server. I have meet a lot of nice gamers from many different countries, and talking in chat beween a dungeon/ quest , was very nice , so thats a point to play a mmorpg, to meet people from foreign countries as well, however i solo or not.

greetings

I agree, most of the time, i spend time in playing MMO's i play solo. If you are a player in agerange 50+ , it is a big problem to find guilds or partys ingame, which understand, that you are not in a hurry to solute each quest ASAP. In a previous post someone has written that to play in a group, means to support all teammembers, or form a balanced group to have a good fight with some Endbosses, or instanced dungeons, or whatever. About Guilds, there is to say from my side i am a nonconformistic player, and the most guilds dont like player, who doesnt follow exactly the guildrules, there specially in PVP/war to other guilds. To increase the char-stats is my prefered playstyle, and no matter is it leasts longer than other players. Missing epic Items is a problem, but i hope some Dev's will build more quests for soloplayers in a game. The options to preform a group for a dungeon,like in GW for arena fights, is a good way, choose from a menue which quest u like to join , if the quest npc is unlocked for u, and jump in with a random formed party.

 True, true to play a MMO is more fun than to play a singleplayergame, the option to meet people ingame, for a parttime is the fun to play it, however if you are a soloplayer or not.

hello guys,

Hehe, same old story again.

In November 2005 i signed for an Pioneer account, in May 2006 i canceled it, cause the "Stresstest-Client" of DnL didnt work with my ATI- card (Graphic, for those who dont know ATI :)  ). I got my refund as it was promised by Farlan/NPcube.  OK , everthing allright. That I didnt get any help by support of DnL, with the problems depending on my Graphiccard, i dont have to say, most of you know that.

To give them ( Farlan/NPcube ) a second try i orded DnL some month later again, ok, end of all, everytime i tried to activate my gameaccount on the CnB site, there was still the information that my subscription be refunded, tho... nothing to activate. My phonecalls to CnB Germany , neither my emails , brought any result to fix that mistake.

Full disapointed by this kind of service i deleted my CnB account.

Month later i took a look in my Billinghistory on the DnL accountsite, there was still my second subsription as "pending" signed *lol

Some weeks later i got 2 emails, in first email are my both subscirptions  ( pioneer and the new )  are to be charged... * hehe, there is no CnB account, how lucky am i  , in second email , which was corrected, they deleted, the once deleted pioneeraccount :), but the second new subscription would be charged..... *lol

Both emails are in my postbox at the same time, only the timestamp differs some minutes !!!!

The only word i have to say to all of the above written is : if a company cant build a save and secure billingsystem, their products shouldnt buyed !

thats all i have to say

*sorry for my bad english :)

so long Pioneers of DnL

greetings

hi there,

ok, got the trial key.

Now i am playing....

True true, they close the europe unity server soon and open a new one, lets see what happened.

I didnt play the game for 3-4 years , but there are no changes in the engine, like former.

The game needs a revision, then it could be ok.

greetings

hi there,

tried to get in to the game by using my  CD including the Key, but it said : key invalid.

tried to create account on tulgawebsite, no chance denied to create a trial account !!

did all the required things an the website, nothing works  !!!

tried to use the feedback-button , got a message of error, some letters like :  ;,.-_, etc are not allowed, ok took them out, next message : an error occured, try to send feedback later !

What kind of service should that be ??

ok, the link in this post works, hope the trial will go on now.

greetings

Keep Hands off this game.....

I was in SoG , as an Pioneer, I canceled the game b4 I get mad of....

biggest problem is the error if u use ATI graphiccards, you have to use an older version of thre driver, 6.3 i think...  , and so on and on

It could be a great game ....  ; but they fumbled  it to dead

have to say that with an tear in my eye  (crying or laughing, i dont know )

to see zhat game going down the drain, makes me really angry

ok, I stop flame

greetings