Originally posted by Betaguy

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

This just can't be.

According to all the self proclaimed "experts" of this very forum, the game is dying and the servers are empty.

You seeing other players online in massive numbers is simply impossible.

I am glad for the 200K players playing still and enjoying it.

I have to ask, and maybe someone already did and I just didn't read past this) but where did ths number come from?  I'm assuming that it is an estimate, so I'm wondering what data you use to extrapolate this number?

Originally posted by Lovely_Laly

just go on forum and look all rants posted.
last time I saw anything like that was on rants part of runescape, when both were not dead.

So far I bet guys found new way to make some cash: and you pay from 300 gems up to 1800!

I'm fully disgusted my idea they introduced this method only for push you once again to silly Item Shop...

Seems this game is nothing else but cheap asian f2p crap.

good news for all lovers of GW2: I'm not a hater, just wanted correct product for my money + I move to Tera now.

Its not like they didn't give advanced warning that this would be happening which gave people plenty of time to transfer before the costs came into effect.  Free transfers was one of the larger flaws of the W v W system and it needed to be fixed.  I can't believe it took them this long.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by Beardyman

I may actually give this game a shot now. What exactly does "Item Restriction" entail?

 

Items above blue quality (rare) are restricted (it used to be above green, which was simply uncommon).

This means you have access to 99% of quest rewards and drops while leveling up to 55.

 The way I read the f2p restrictions just now is that it is not above rair items being restricted, but rare and above items being restricted.  So to me this means that rare quality items are restricted as well.  Maybe they have said something different on the forums and this is old, I don't know.  The direct quote from the fine print subnote 2 is: "Rare and higher items will have limited availability for Free members."

Edit:  And I am glad this has changed because previously there were many green items that I got from quests that I couldn't equip.  That was one of the main reasons I quit playing.  I was annoyed with completing a low level quest and not being able to equip the item because I needed an unlock.  Now I get they need to make money, but I did have a problem with not being able to equip quest items.  I read later that they were fixing that aspect, but by then I had gotten engrossed in other games.

Originally posted by Kyleran
Many of these so called innovations are a step backward in my book, maybe they should be called dinnovations?

 This made me chuckle.  But, fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your perspective) the word itself isn't a value judgement it, so even if people don't like the change, it is still change.

Originally posted by Scottgun
I was about to say, may be we should start a post. "Lie or error? Do you know the difference?"

 Oh lord, I've had those debates on here too, you end up with the same nitpicking and people trying to redefine what the word "is" is.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

My understanding of this was that the 189 million wasn't revenue for boxes sold of the games (or discs for the consoles) but only for the dlc concent of the 3 games.  But that seems like a pretty damn large number for dlc for 3 games.

Originally posted by ignore_me

Originally posted by Stimz

"SWG's housing system evolved over time as they learned their lessons, but in the end it taught everyone a lot about how to do in-world housing.  The only real mistake they made was not having a system in place to clean up abandoned homes properly. Games like LotRO came up with systems such as "Escrow" so that when they took your house from you for not paying the maintenance fee, you could go to an NPC and collect the things you left inside it."

 

You Forget though, SWG did have a way to clean up abandoned homes, I think it was like Once a year or something, Where they would let you get a mission to go out and call in bombing runs on abandoned homes, then the stuff in it would be packed up and put on the character, so if the person came back later, he could put his house down and get his stuff back.

Yep, house pack up. I swooped on a bitchin space using this, right outside Rori Rebel Outpost. The player doesn't lose anyhting but their spot, and if they had left the game for good it was that much the better for cleaning up.

I think a decay system that allows mobs to spawn in ruins or salvage of the actual structure would be sweet as long as the original player gets his stuff packed up.

This wasn't there for the first few years though and was only implemented when people complained about abandoned houses taking up valuable land.

Originally posted by VassagoMael
Having limited space is what give the housing value. Unlimited space for housing is basically the same thing as instanced housing.

That's fine as long as it doesn't stay there forever after being built, without some kind of upkeep.  It was problematic in SWG for most of the games life because houses didn't require any upkeep, they could just sit there abondoned for years.

Originally posted by hardicon

im not really a huge funcom supporter but basically your blaming a company for your own mistake.  unless this is your first mmo which you say it isnt, then anyone knows anytime you subscribe to a mmo that sub auto renews unless you cancel it.  whether they tell you this or not, it has been that way since ultima online days.  so you subbed to a game, didnt pay attention to cancel it, let it renew and wait two weeks and then do a chargeback on your card, which should be an abuse because this was not a fraudelent charge, it was  charge that you authorized in the payment preceding the disputed payment.  im sure it was on there somewhere, you just forgot to look for it in your excitement.  yet you blame funcom for this.  go try it with blizzard, or basically any other company, same thing will happen and no they wont renew your account at this point because you have shown to be a unreliable customer that pays for something, uses some of the time and forces the company to pay you back. 

this probably sounds harsh but that is the way it is, dont blame the company for this when it is the same policy every single online retailer in the world has.

Yeah, they use to even make you enter your recurring charge info for trials, at least DAOC did back in the first free trials.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
He hasn't left trion, presumably he's working on their next mmo.

 

It is in the first sentence of the announcement "I wanted to let you know that I'm stepping down from my position here at Trion."

Originally posted by Torvaldr

If you have't played before, the game is $20 right now at EME.  That includes a month of sub time, a mount, and a couple other goodies.

I think it's a fun game.  I just picked it up and it's much better than I had expected. The combat is great.  The quests aren't much to speak of, but aren't horrible either, they are just quests.  I mostly skip the quest dialog, but have noticed some funny stuff.

I'm sticking to the RP server though.  The community is really nice.  Global chat is abysmal, probably the worst of any of my main games, but I left that channel and 'area' and local chat are just fine.  I've seen some RP and stuff, but the game definitely has it's own flavor which I find distinctly refreshing.

I will have to agree with the general chat.  It is full of people who probably should be under a Drs. care.  My son happened to come in at one point and I had pretty much tunned it out of my mind and he started reading, and I quickly had to usher him out and make him promise not to say anything he read there.

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by sadeyx

hmm,  so far its sold exactly half as many copies as diablo3 did on the first day xD,  Which is a pretty good indicator,  leveling alts, item hunting and acheivments in D3 just seems to be far more gratuitous.

Guildwars2 is neither an MMO nor a standalonge RPG resulting in a game that isnt very very good at either.   Great if your a person who is deeply conflicted about these gamyplay styles but not me.   I rather play either a thorough-bred MMO or a thorough-bred RPG.

The only people in my friends list that still play it are just people determined to prove the game is as good as they convinced themselves it would be during the hype.

The reality is, it was fun for a month but now is the time to accept it will never be the wow-killer, will never live up to the hype and look for something else.

 

 

Diablo 3 is bad game that entirely on the strength of it's predessor and blizzard brand name. When was the last time Blizzard posted any stats about the game sales, yeah the intial one.

I would be careful about throwing around accusations like that. You can easily replace D3 with GW2 and Blizzard with ArenaNET and someone could present you with the same argument. No it's best if you just ignore posters that try to drag down a discussion by bringing in things that are not related to the subject at hand. Calling either game bad is a matter of opinion that varies wildly among millions of players.

Completely missed the point. I was stating guild wars 2 sold a million starting 2 months after launch meaning the game continue to sell decent past the intial launch buzz. The same can't be said for Diablo 3 otherwise blizzard would have mentioned it. GW2 also reviewed higher based on critics and general user score. Of course bad game is an opinion but gw2 is generally regard as higher by the majority from the information I have.

It hasn't sold a million copies since 2 months after launch.  As of Sept 13th the game had sold 2 million copies (roughly 2 weeks after its official launch date), so in the following 4 months it sold another million.  Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million its first day (plus 1.2 million of the annual pass people) and through September 30th had sold 10 million copies according to http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-07-diablo-3-has-over-10-million-subscribers.  So the game more than doubled its sales in the following months after release.  It looks like Guild Wars 2 will also double its initial launch sales around the end of the summer at this pace, so good on them.  It is worth the intial cost, in my opinion.  But now I got trapped in the x game has y sales compared to z games sales.  Arg.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by IAmMMO

 Despite their claim of a no refund you are still entitled to one within the EU if you put money down as a Pre order,and the product is not officially released yet. As long as it still up as for pre order those who've pre ordered by law within the EU are entitled to have their money back if they change their mind. It still won't stop a company if they decide to black list you from their service since their misleading with info that no refund with pre orders when there are laws that say otherwise within the EU. That thing you sign don't hold water to block you from a refund to money put down on a pre order. Hence they'll give money back when challenged, but black list you out of spite.

 

Exactly.

Aventurine is not following the EU laws. He should have his refund and the ban should be removed asap. 

 

Every mmo company bans someone who does a chargeback, which, unless I'm misreading the post, is essentially what he did, only through paypal.  I'm not entirely sure why the account wouldn't be banned if they are getting their money back through paypal, why would AV continue to allow access to the account that would no longer have been paid for?

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by joshbaby03

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zdykab.jpg

 

Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

You have requested a refund from paypal, Anet banned your account... You know what that sounds like to me?

It sounds like you have or are receiving your refund, why would you assume you get to keep your account as well?

Yeah, I'm just not getting how this hasn't been resolved the way the OP wanted it to be.  I can only think that maybe they didn't want their account banned for forum purposes.  That really is the only thing that I can think of.

Originally posted by Kyleran
Seems like a silly idea, aren't there some abused animals somewhere that need saving?

There are at least some cute ones we shouldn't be eating.  They aren't abused...well until they get to the frying pan.

Originally posted by banzai014

In Funcom land, their patches break things rather than fixing them. Since the latest server update some quest givers and vendors are now permanently stuck in combat. This means they cannot be interacted with to buy or sell items, or get quests. Even the illuminati faction leader is affected by this, meaning new players cannot finish the intro,complete the main storyline or unlock higher tier areas.

This is game breaking.

Screenshots:

Source (official forums): http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=65590

Restructuring, layoffs, resignation of head personnel are having a major toll on the game. People are saying Funcom only has 30 devs working over 3 MMOs (Age of Conan, Anarchy Online, The Secret World). It appears things are being pushed out with little to no testing/QA, and they don't have the resources to release hotfixes either.

 

 

I know its not funny for those trying to use those NPCs, but this is freaking funny.  And I think the game is good for what I play it for, but this is still really funny.