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Originally posted by ArcheAge
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Are there any Persians today?

Ummm Iranians are Persians; particularly the farsi speakers. Either term is right, but saying there's no "Persians" is ridiculous. 

I think he should give up,it's embarrassing to say the least. I know he is use to unintelligent people actually believing the rubbish he spouts but up against intelligent people he falls apart and is exposed for the hate monger he really is.

Oops, didn't notice your post count until now. You're new.

Basically what Imho does is

  1. Wake up and read the headlines of his favorite news sites, ignoring everything except negative news in the Middle East.
  2. Typically ignore the shit out of the "Read more" links once an article is found.
  3. Come here and more or less post just the subject line and comment on that. On a good day maybe 3-4 sentences into the article.
  4. Learn nothing, and accomplish nothing except grow more scared and manic.
  5. Repeat the next day.
You don't get to 12,000 posts of some very, very basic misunderstandings Islam and the Middle East on an MMO board without some unchecked mental issues. There's no point in trying to reason with it. Many have tried, but its best to just ignore it. He'll be doing the same crap a year from now, or two, and still be no smarter. 
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Are there any Persians today?

Ummm Iranians are Persians; particularly the farsi speakers. Either term is right, but saying there's no "Persians" is ridiculous. 

 

It's archaic.

The only people I've ever met that call themselves "Persian" are Iranians that dont' want to be tied to that crazy regime.

I can't blame them, but you might as well just say, I'm Iranian.

I'm not going to hold it against you that your country of origin is ruled by crazy people, if you yourself are not crazy.

EVERYONE has a nationality.

Persia is not a nationality, becaues there is no current country of Persia.

 

 

Guy..."Iran" is the Persian word for the country we used to call "Persia". "Persia" still exists, we just obliged the Iranians, or Persians, by calling the country Iran. 

kobie had a very simple grade school point that obviously befuddled you to the point you had to bring up Rome and the Persian Empire and all that crap.

Stop the hoop jumping and just take him for his word if you never picked that bit of information up somehow. 

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Are there any Persians today?

Ummm Iranians are Persians; particularly the farsi speakers. Either term is right, but saying there's no "Persians" is ridiculous. 

Originally posted by kobie173
Originally posted by outfctrl

What gripes me is that we have been giving Pakistan loads of money to find this guy and he was there the whole time.

Hang on though. The part of Pakistan he was in is not exactly under the jurisdiction of the Pakistani government. I don't trust the Pakistani government as far as I can throw it, but it's not like they can just waltz into those tribal areas and grab OBL without taking significant losses.

I'm sure in the days ahead we'll know more, and with greater accuracy, but for now I read this pretty great descriptor of the area: 

Abbottabad is essentially a military cantonment city in Pakistan, in the hills to the north of the capital of Islamabad, in an area where much of the land is controlled or owned by the Pakistan Army and retired army officers. Although the city is technically in what used to be called the Northwest Frontier Province, it lies to the far eastern side of the province and is as close to Pakistani-held Kashmir as it is to the border city of Peshawar. The city is most notable for housing the Pakistan Military Academy, the Pakistan Army’s premier training college, equivalent to West Point. Looking at maps and satellite photos on the Web last night, I saw the wide expanse of the Academy not far from where the million-dollar, heavily secured mansion where bin Laden lived was constructed in 2005. The maps I looked at had sections of land nearby marked off as “restricted area,” indicating that it was under military control. It stretches credulity to think that a mansion of that scale could have been built and occupied by bin Laden for six years without it coming to the attention of anyone in Pakistan’s Army.

 

The guy goes on to make some good points: 

The initial circumstantial evidence suggests the opposite is more likely—that bin Laden was effectively being housed under Pakistani state control. Pakistan will deny this, it seems safe to predict, and perhaps no convincing evidence will ever surface to prove the case. If I were a prosecutor at the United States Department of Justice, however, I would be tempted to call a grand jury. Who owned the land on which the house was constructed? How was the land acquired, and from whom? Who designed the house, which seems to have been purpose-built to secure bin Laden? Who was the general contractor? Who installed the security systems? Who worked there? Are there witnesses who will now testify as to who visited the house, how often, and for what purpose? These questions are not relevant only to the full realization of justice for the victims of September 11th. They are also relevant to the victims of terrorist attacks conducted or inspired by bin Laden while he lived in the house, and these include many Pakistanis as well as Afghans, Indians, Jordanians, and Britons. They are rightly subjects of American criminal law.

Source: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/notes-on-the-death-of-osama-bin-laden.html

 

There seems to be no way, no reason to just chock this up as "Oh well, no one could've knew." We've given Pakistan billions of dollars of welfare, have treaties with them, and at the very least we deserve answers.

Looks like some in Washington are already starting to hint there will be expectations of investigation. Everything we don't can't be military, so hopefully some litigation will result. 

Considering there's a portion of the world that believes Hitler survived, there's unfortunately going to be nothing unusual about conspiracy theorists believing Osama is still alive. Not surprising seeing a couple emerge in this thread. 

 

Not to overshadow all the soldiers that've fought for the past ten years anyway.

Originally posted by Xirik

I am glad that he is finally gone

I just find it hard to Celebrate any humans death.. just seems wrong to me.

But that just me so you guys all let out whatever you feel about this as this is the day to let it all out.

 

So Americans how does it feel? a weight lifted off your shoulders that you didn't even know was there? emptyness?

 

for me it just feels odd, something that was so entrentched in our minds suddenly just disapears leaving me feeling empty and going what now?

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” - Mark Twain

Originally posted by deviliscious
Originally posted by sepher

Can't wait until its revealed who the operatives/soldiers were involved in the firefight. I wonder if we will actually know in the days ahead. 

 Hopefully so, but if they are special ops, we may not find out for quite some time. LOL

Yep..difficult to tell right now, seems doubtful we'll have a Return of the Jedi medal ceremony though, seems like it was carried out by one of those JSOC TFs

Can't wait until its revealed who the operatives/soldiers were involved in the firefight. I wonder if we will actually know in the days ahead. 

Originally posted by Zindaihas
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Zindaihas
Originally posted by sepher

They're legally 100% the same document because both are "Certificates of Live Birth" a.k.a BIRTH CERTIFICATES. 

The difference is short-form vs. long-form. Don't be retarded, he DID release his birth certificate in 2008. For the love of Christ.

Congratulations you've been handed a birth certificate twice except in long form now you know the parents' address and whether or not that address is a farm or plantation.

 That's interesting because there are some jobs, even in the state of Hawaii, where a certification of live birth does not qualify as proof of citizenship.  I applied for one in my county back in Ohio when I was in college.  I was required to produce proof of citizenship and I showed them my short form and they rejected it as insufficient.  Therefore, I had to take in an actual copy of my birth certificate before they accepted me as a US citizen.  You use the term "legally", which may be the case, but the truth is that the birth certificate is filled out at the hospital (or the registrar's office) at the time of birth and the short form is filled out some time later and is based on information taken from the birth certificate.  So legally or not, they are the same document.

Then your "short form" wasn't your birth certificate.

Hawaii only issues ONE kind of birth certificate, and that's what Obama showed in 2008. The long form released now only came after a special waiver. So you're wrong in saying "some jobs, even in Hawaii". Every Hawaii-born proves their identity with their short-form certificate of live birth because its their BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 

Whatever you have that was rejected as insufficient != what Hawaii and many other states issue as a birth certificate, because what Hawaii issues to all of its born residents and what Obama showed in 2008 IS their "actual copy". 

Get over the myths.

 Well then Hawaii law is stupid in my opinion.  Anybody should be able to get a copy of their own birth certificate.  My parents have copies of my two brothers and my BC kept in a photo album.  So what Hawaii issues then is not the actual birth certificate, but a document based on the actual birth certificate.  Therefore part of the problem in this whole controversy resulted from the way the State of Hawaii does things.  That's government for you.

No...that's uh, inability to comprehend for you. Everyone gets a birth certificate in Hawaii. It's just that someone in 2008 told you that certificate of live birth != birth certificate and you bought it. By all means, no need to believe the long form is a birth certificate either. Let's keep this shit up. 

Originally posted by Zindaihas
Originally posted by sepher

They're legally 100% the same document because both are "Certificates of Live Birth" a.k.a BIRTH CERTIFICATES. 

The difference is short-form vs. long-form. Don't be retarded, he DID release his birth certificate in 2008. For the love of Christ.

Congratulations you've been handed a birth certificate twice except in long form now you know the parents' address and whether or not that address is a farm or plantation.

 That's interesting because there are some jobs, even in the state of Hawaii, where a certification of live birth does not qualify as proof of citizenship.  I applied for one in my county back in Ohio when I was in college.  I was required to produce proof of citizenship and I showed them my short form and they rejected it as insufficient.  Therefore, I had to take in an actual copy of my birth certificate before they accepted me as a US citizen.  You use the term "legally", which may be the case, but the truth is that the birth certificate is filled out at the hospital (or the registrar's office) at the time of birth and the short form is filled out some time later and is based on information taken from the birth certificate.  So legally or not, they are the same document.

Then your "short form" wasn't your birth certificate.

Hawaii only issues ONE kind of birth certificate, and that's what Obama showed in 2008. The long form released now only came after a special waiver. So you're wrong in saying "some jobs, even in Hawaii". Every Hawaii-born proves their identity with their short-form certificate of live birth because its their BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 

Whatever you have that was rejected as insufficient != what Hawaii and many other states issue as a birth certificate, because what Hawaii issues to all of its born residents and what Obama showed in 2008 IS their "actual copy". 

Get over the myths.

Originally posted by Zindaihas
 
Originally posted by melmoth1

As many have said, the birth certificate he realeased back in 2008 was a valid and original birth certificate.

Obama waited this long because he credited too many of his fellow citizens with common sense and critical intelligence and rightly took the position that if he responded to every conspiracy-mong on every second day of the week then he wouldn't have time to deal with the important job of being President in difficult economic and political times. That and the fact that the state of Hawaii doesn't ordinarily release the long-form form of the Birth Certificate; Obama had to request a special waiver of that state to get this released under these circumstances.

I am sad that so many Americans believed the birthers. I am pretty much appalled and revolted by Donald Trump for throwing his lot in with the birthers and becoming their default spokesperson, and then doubly disgusted with him trying to claim the release of the long-form certificate as a victory for him and the birthers! WTF! 

Now that the long-form certificate is released, the birthers - as we all predicted - still continue with their shit.

 

Regards

 

Melmoth

 You give Obama too much credit.  If he had simply released it when the issue first reared its head, he could have put the controversy to bed years ago.  He finally had no choice because Trump was transforming the subject from a fringe issue into a mainstream one.  I'm no Trump supporter because he's too much of a self-promoter imo, but at least he played a part in ending this ridiculous story.  The sad thing is that it's probably never going to completely end.  There will be conspiracy theorists who will be convinced that it's a forgery.  Again, Obama could have prevented it from going that far by simply releasing it two years ago.

Oh and btw, he did not release his official birth certificate back in 2008.  He released this:

File:BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg

 

Not this:

File:President Barack Obama's long form birth certificate.jpg

They're legally 100% the same document because both are "Certificates of Live Birth" a.k.a BIRTH CERTIFICATES. 

The difference is short-form vs. long-form. Don't be retarded, he DID release his birth certificate in 2008. For the love of Christ.

Congratulations you've been handed a birth certificate twice except in long form now you know the parents' address and whether or not that address is a farm or plantation.

 

When lawyer Evan Stone worked as an in-house counsel for anime distributor FUNimation, the company tried all sorts of techniques to stop piracy. It sent takedown notices and DMCA complaints to anyone who would listen, like ISPs (which sometimes took action) and torrent sites (which rarely did). It hired outside firms to flood torrent sites with bogus files. It put more than 90 series online for free streaming.

Stone finally came to believe that suing file-sharers was the only approach left. "I didn't know what other options we had," he told me earlier this year. "We were at our wit's end."

But making money in anime isn't hopeless; it turns out that anime lovers will pay for content even in an age of widely available free versions. "In almost all cases, piracy is not an issue of legality," says Kun Gao, CEO of the anime streaming site Crunchyroll. It's often a market issue—and Crunchyroll turns a profit by offering anime lovers what they want: legal access to anime shows right after new episodes have aired in Japan.

Pirates can't compete with this kind of availability, since even the most dedicated fansub groups need time to do their own translations. Crunchyroll gets its content a week before first air date, giving it time to do a proper subtitling job. Piracy may never go away, but Crunchyroll is out to prove that "competing with free" is possible by treating piracy like a business problem.

The rest: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/competing-with-free-anime-site-treats-piracy-as-a-market-failure.ars

 

You know its the same for music. Piracy's entire charm isn't "free", its also convenience. I don't know a person who minds the $4.99 or $9.99 a month for Rdio.com considering they can listen to new albums every tuesday and their old favorites whenever. 

It's somewhat similar for movies, I don't know anyone that minds the $7.99 a month for Netflix. It's probably slowed piracy for subscribing persons prone to downloading movies online. But if they have to buy a DVD, Blu-ray, Pay-Per-View to get what isn't on Netflix's Watch Instantly, they might pirate instead. 

Games are somewhat the worst since they're tied to brick and mortar stores still largely. If all new games were released by download over Live (Xbox and Windows), PSN, Steam and whatever else, I imagine piracy might drop due to the extra convenience.

That said, company's could figure out how to teleport games into hands and price would still matter too. Free is always going to be most appealing, but that "free" often comes with a price; no online play for games, inferior quality for movie rips/cams, music pieced together based on leaks missing any bonus tracks/content. 

But, at the 7.99 Netflix does with movies, 4.99 for Rdio if you listen just on your PC, 6.99 for Crunchyroll as mentioned in the article above...I don't imagine how pirates could prefer "free" with the pain points involved with it to quality full-featured convenience. 

Of course, Netflix isn't completely there yet, unlike Rdio it doesn't get the latest and greatest every Tuesday. I think movie studios need to accept the fact people want convenience, and cheaply. We're used to it. It's a usability issue at this point, and having to buy something in a plastic case for 20-30 dollars that we aren't sure is good or bad is less and less likely to happen. 

Maybe one day piracy used to be about "free", and thus greed on the part of pirates, and maybe for a majority amount of pirates that's still what its about, but you have to think that if in 5 years Pay-Per-View still gets new movies before Netflix and the music and game industry are still pressing CDs, the case for piracy is then wholly one of convenience. 

Anyone who's chatted with me on these boards about piracy knows I could give a crap about 'em. I work in software and company's I've written software for have been pirated to all hell. I have personal incentive to think the worst of pirates, but its clear to even me that company's have to compete on convenience. The recipe seems simple: online immediately, accessible through subscription, regardless of what it is.

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I've been playing way too much Portal 2, my first thought was "That's not too bad, where's the other portal?" 

Originally posted by Faxxer
Originally posted by DailyBuzz
Originally posted by xpowderx

 Most of us get a good laugh whenever we see a "Birther" talking about Obama and his birth certificate. Which many of us have. We as a whole have perhaps overlooked what those crazy birthers are accomplishing.

Last week Oklahoma passed a Birther Law. This law would require any candidate to provide a long form birth certificate to just be added to a ballot. If it is not provided that candidates name would not appear in the ballot box at the time to vote. This means at current, Obama wouldnt even appear on the ballot box for the 2012 election. If you wanted to vote for Obama, he would have to be a write in.

While Arizona started this new Birther Law, its also being adopted by other states.

Here is the Oklahoma Birther Law story:http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/oklahoma-birther-bill-one-step-closer-becoming-law

Here is the Arizona Birther filings: http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/02/01/33787.htm

In my state,  legislation is being made to follow Arizona. As are other states.

If all this goes well, the birthers will have defeated Obama before a election even takes place.

I would imagine Obama will be taking these laws to the supreme court. As he himself has no other choice. Which if he does. Trump will be shown as correct. Obama may actually have been born in Kenya as Trump proclaims.

I guess its no longer us who are laughing. But those who are birthers who are getting the last laugh!

Obama may have to send Van Jones and Bill Ayers over to "take care" of this problem (funded by George Soros, of course).

 

I got a question for you. Do you honestly believe that a man, whom can hoodwink his way into the U.S. fucking presidency, cannot acquire a reasoable facsimile of a long form birth certificate?

 ok so if he was born "barack obama" and we call him "barack obama" now....

WHY is the name barry sotero anywhere in the man's history?   

a mystery remains.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate/

here's the LONG FORM!!!!   

And what's with "File Number 151"? Are we to believe he's the 151th person born in Hawaii? In 6,000 years of Earth history, only 151 Hawaiians? Really? 

WE GOT HIM!!

Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by melmoth1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13212230

Now for the love of God please STFU.

 

Regards

 

Melmoth

Considering Obama released his birth certificate two years and all insane minds didn't accept it then, why expect birthers to accept it now?

Yes, its the long form birth certificate, but that means 100% nothing; the certificate of live birth was just as valid considering they're filed the exact same time as long form birth certificates and get us the exact same mileage in proving identity, including in the minds of birthers 'cause god knows they'll still continue on despite this redundant event. 

certificate/certifcation of live birth is not as valid. This is not defense to the birthers, but just a statement of fact. To obtain federal documents (e.g. passport) or even to enroll in the federal temporary health pool, a copy of an original birth certificate is required. Certificate/certification of live birth documents only show that a baby existed, not it's birth place. Any mother off the street can go into a hospital and claim they had a baby in the back alley and a hospital would issue one of these documents.

With that said, I don't think the strategy was ever to prove he wasn't born here (by Trump), but to keep him distracted from other things. Glad it's over (or should be).

Exactly what are you talking about? Because what I mentioned was Obama's certificate of live birth from 2008, which was issued by Hawaii's Department of Health, complete with embossed seal, complete with: "This copy serves as prima facto evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

It ain't whatever piece of paper you've found yourself unable to get a passport with. Or whatever you're talking about.

I'm not disputing his birth, I am simply saying certificate/certification of live birth are not accepted on a federal level. Hawaii may accept it, but it may not be accepted elsewhere. That's all I'm stating, nothing else.

What you're saying only applies to the "certificate" you describe, which apparently isnt' a birth certificate. You aren't describing what Obama released in 2008, you aren't describing anyone else's state stamped certificate of live birth. Legally, they're 100% the same thing as long form birth certificates because they ARE birth certificates minus miscellaneous crap like birth weight. They're just as valid for passports, driver IDs, whatever. That's the whole POINT to issuing them is to prove you are who you are to the State Department and similar. 

Whatever "facts" you're asserting may as well be about a certificate you could pull out of your inkjet, its just as relevant.

My initial application for a passport was turned down because I did not provide a copy of my original birth certificate. I had the same thing Obama showed. It was stamped with the state seal and "signed" (stamped signature). The same thing happened when I went through MEPS when I was joining the Marines. My recruiter was pissed because they deferred my processing because my certificate of live birth was considered invalid.

Your certificate of live birth WOULD be your "original birth certificate". They're the exact same thing, long-form vs. short-form. It's the only kind of birth certificate Hawaii and many other states issue. This will only increasingly be the case as records are kept electronically. There's no difference between certificate of live birth vs. original birth certificate; they're one in the same.

Obviously whatever you had wasn't your "original birth certificate" as you put it, so that'd have been your problem, but what Obama released in 2008 WAS his original birth certificate, drafted at birth short-form and long-form, and the same kind of certificate Hawaiians and citizens of other states that don't issue long-form birth certificates use to get off this rock every now and then. 

Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by melmoth1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13212230

Now for the love of God please STFU.

 

Regards

 

Melmoth

Considering Obama released his birth certificate two years and all insane minds didn't accept it then, why expect birthers to accept it now?

Yes, its the long form birth certificate, but that means 100% nothing; the certificate of live birth was just as valid considering they're filed the exact same time as long form birth certificates and get us the exact same mileage in proving identity, including in the minds of birthers 'cause god knows they'll still continue on despite this redundant event. 

certificate/certifcation of live birth is not as valid. This is not defense to the birthers, but just a statement of fact. To obtain federal documents (e.g. passport) or even to enroll in the federal temporary health pool, a copy of an original birth certificate is required. Certificate/certification of live birth documents only show that a baby existed, not it's birth place. Any mother off the street can go into a hospital and claim they had a baby in the back alley and a hospital would issue one of these documents.

With that said, I don't think the strategy was ever to prove he wasn't born here (by Trump), but to keep him distracted from other things. Glad it's over (or should be).

Exactly what are you talking about? Because what I mentioned was Obama's certificate of live birth from 2008, which was issued by Hawaii's Department of Health, complete with embossed seal, complete with: "This copy serves as prima facto evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

It ain't whatever piece of paper you've found yourself unable to get a passport with. Or whatever you're talking about.

I'm not disputing his birth, I am simply saying certificate/certification of live birth are not accepted on a federal level. Hawaii may accept it, but it may not be accepted elsewhere. That's all I'm stating, nothing else.

What you're saying only applies to the "certificate" you describe, which apparently isnt' a birth certificate. You aren't describing what Obama released in 2008, you aren't describing anyone else's state stamped certificate of live birth. Legally, they're 100% the same thing as long form birth certificates because they ARE birth certificates minus miscellaneous crap like birth weight. They're just as valid for passports, driver IDs, whatever. That's the whole POINT to issuing them is to prove you are who you are to the State Department and similar. 

Whatever "facts" you're asserting may as well be about a certificate you could pull out of your inkjet, its just as relevant.

Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Birthers Shut up

That is all.

Waits for birthers to try to cook something up to refute that in 3... 2... 1...

Saddly... So am I...

There's still the whole muslim issue which has been joined at the hip with the Kenya theory. So you know, for those that need something to believe other than reality, he's still secretly a muslim. 

Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by melmoth1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13212230

Now for the love of God please STFU.

 

Regards

 

Melmoth

Considering Obama released his birth certificate two years and all insane minds didn't accept it then, why expect birthers to accept it now?

Yes, its the long form birth certificate, but that means 100% nothing; the certificate of live birth was just as valid considering they're filed the exact same time as long form birth certificates and get us the exact same mileage in proving identity, including in the minds of birthers 'cause god knows they'll still continue on despite this redundant event. 

certificate/certifcation of live birth is not as valid. This is not defense to the birthers, but just a statement of fact. To obtain federal documents (e.g. passport) or even to enroll in the federal temporary health pool, a copy of an original birth certificate is required. Certificate/certification of live birth documents only show that a baby existed, not it's birth place. Any mother off the street can go into a hospital and claim they had a baby in the back alley and a hospital would issue one of these documents.

With that said, I don't think the strategy was ever to prove he wasn't born here (by Trump), but to keep him distracted from other things. Glad it's over (or should be).

Exactly what are you talking about? Because what I mentioned was Obama's certificate of live birth from 2008, which was issued by Hawaii's Department of Health, complete with embossed seal, complete with: "This copy serves as prima facto evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

It ain't whatever piece of paper you've found yourself unable to get a passport with. Or whatever you're talking about.

Originally posted by melmoth1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13212230

Now for the love of God please STFU.

 

Regards

 

Melmoth

Considering Obama released his birth certificate two years and all insane minds didn't accept it then, why expect birthers to accept it now?

Yes, its the long form birth certificate, but that means 100% nothing; the certificate of live birth was just as valid considering they're filed the exact same time as long form birth certificates and get us the exact same mileage in proving identity, including in the minds of birthers 'cause god knows they'll still continue on despite this redundant event. 

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