Originally posted by kuhronusu

Originally posted by nepulas

get it its worth every penny

Why ?

 

 1) Game is a fun, persistent FPS that takes some skill to compete in

2) The game is fairly polished, in my time playing, I've not run into any bugs or lag bad enough to affect game performance

3) Most importantly (to me), is that the developer identified that the game did not have enough content to justify a subscription, was honest enough to admit it, and continued updating the game to justify the game price.  At such point as made sense, they would then start charging a sub price.  Then, showing a bit of wisdom and common sense, which is all-too-rare these days, they have decided to throw out the subscription model, and go with an expansion model, like Guild Wars.

4) Items 1-3 above inspire a sense of trust and respect in me for the developer, which makes me want to support their business

My two cents; it's cheap enough to try out, and develop your own opinion.

Originally posted by grunt187

Originally posted by Dreathor

 

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Originally posted by jomargue

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Originally posted by Muke
I agree, they should go in business with SOE, much better company.

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Well at least SOE can keep ur accounts safe, I still have my original EQII account after many years of inactivity , 2 months after I quit AION my account got hacked, my first account hacked in 10 years playing MMORPG's , they told me some funny stuff about it , and the very same happened to lots of ppl. Just warning u guys, investing in a game published by NCSoft is wasting your time and money

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All of mine and my pals' NCSoft accounts have been perfectly safe for years, zero problems.

"You're doing it wrong!"

LMAO same here

 Same, a few accounts across a few games.  CoH opened at release, came back for CoV, returned a few times, plus other games.  Never had a single issue with my account or it's security.

Originally posted by Haradeas

Originally posted by Auzy
U must be new to WoW if u think pallies have always been OP...

and you must be new to wow also then ? ^^ Played it 5 years ago, and even back then pally was the 1 man army ^^

 Ha!  That's hillarious Haradeas.  Say hello to Cinderella and Snow White for me when you get a chance.  Here in the real world, Paladins weren't overpowered until big boosts to Ret with expansions.  ProTip:  Bubble/Hearth was considered mereley lame, not OP.  And if you aren't talking about that, I don't have the faintest clue about what you are referring to.

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

Originally posted by Afterlife

I admit I was fooled until a while after the "how'd I get the capital" part and thought "What an asshole."

Game didn't sound half bad tbh ;)

 Really? Because at first I was sure it was an April Fool's joke but when I read how he got the capital I thought "Wow surprising honesty for once, I guess this is for real. Guess I was right about why there were so many STO articles when the game was clearly garbage"

 

But I guess every April Fool's joke has to have a piece of truth to really be effective.

 Arghh.  You beat me to the point, and stated it much better than I did.

Originally posted by Afterlife

I admit I was fooled until a while after the "how'd I get the capital" part and thought "What an asshole."

Game didn't sound half bad tbh ;)

 The funny part about the article, is that the bit about raising capital is probably the only TRUE statement in the article :)

I was excited until I saw the "open world" bits would be sub-only.  Unless you are in a large Agency Alliance, AvA stinks.  I have no reason to sub, because I have no intention of playing AvA.  However, my guess is that this "open world" enhancement will remove many many players from the PvE queues, which can already be pretty empty.  That means, to do more than a statndard PvP 10v10, you would HAVE to sub.  The game, for what it provides, is not worth the sub price in my opinion.

Hopefully they will see the light and offer these items as a mini-expansion, for $5 or $10, so that those of us that don't participate in AvA have a reason to continue playing the game.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

If Chess Online came out, it would probably get a really crappy score.

 

The lobby system, all the instancing and how the ladder is dominated by seasoned veterans.

The issues with it would probably be

- a lack of a PvE element

- no auction house

- no housing

- no plans to add new pieces in future expansions

- limited game world

- no casting or ranged classes

 

For those who specifically like an arena to test one's personal skill against another in a strategic game, Chess Online is probably an amazing game. Chess itself is an amazing game - it is a classic that has stood the test of time far longer than most games.

 

As an MMO, it's a piece of crap that Joe MMO Gamer would consider unpolished and boring. As an MMO, it would probably get a score of 4.0 out of 10 or less.

 

"How can you rate Chess a 4 out of 10? The PvP is great! The combat is balanced! WTF?"

 

Rating Chess Online a 10.0 because of the solid design of its PvP element doesn't offer an accurate score for the average gamer. The average gamer would seriously wonder how such an incomplete and limited game would even get half that score.

 

 

I was waffling back and forth; I could see both sides of the argument here... UNTIL I read this post.

Excellent analogy Loktofeit.  This analogy, to me, makes Stradden's statement make sense.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

Get a grip, this is advertising, the industry of overpaid sleezeballs who enjoy ripping people off. The only profession I detest more are lawyers.

Scum-rating wise, marketers are just lawyers with a higher level of creativity.

Nothing you see in an advertisement of a news article is 100% accurate.  These are businesses, and their bread-and-butter is to "spin" the truth into something positive for their position (or product).

That being said, if you believe 100% of what you're told, you're a sucker.

Don't be a sucker.  There are already enough of them.

Originally posted by tyanya

Throughout CO's alpha and beta, they asked for feedback, responded to us in writing, delivered on nothing, watched the forum get heated while remaining deathly quiet.... then out of the blue they announced they wanted feedback, responded in writing, delivered on nothing, watched the forum get heated while remaining deathly quiet... suddenly they announced they wanted feedback....

Prior to CO's release you would probably have seen Cryptic as one of the most appreciated and respected mmo developers out there, but ultimately actions speak louder than words and this suggestes they are either inept, impotent or just dont care.

EDIT: The CO trial is ample time to determine whether you will enjoy the game or not, by level 6 you will have experienced every mission type, every variation in enemy AI and seen a part of the best looking (by far) zone in the game, if you make a few alts and vary your build you will also be able to determine that your powerselection makes no difference whatsoever to the mechanics or responses given by the game.

I see what you are saying.  I can imagine that would be extremely frustrating, on time of showing complete disrespect to your fanbase. 

This is one of the reasons I TRY not to follow games in development.  More times than not, I end up disappointed with the product and the developer.  I rather just ignore them until a few months after launch, pick them up, play them, and decide for myself.  Note...this is not optimal, as I have wasted countless dollars on crappy games that weren't even worth the $49.99 box price.

Originally posted by Kryogenic

Originally posted by Zionnax

Thanks for the information!

 

I'm curious to see what you think about it after playing it. 

I am as well.  I couldn't enjoy CoX for more than a couple weeks at a time before it became boring for me.  With a trial, I won't know that, because they usually don't give you enough of a window of opportunity to find that out.

That being said, a fair number of games lately have bored me within the first week.  So I may find out sooner than I would normally expect.  If it's engaging for the trial period, I would consider buying it.

After I try it, I'll PM both you and Adogg, and let you know what my impressions are.

You stick to your guns in a positive way; I can respect that.

While magicly chatting privately with a guild does seem less real than having to say everything in the open, I am getting older.  I don't know that my reflexes are good enough to be able to pick out text in a chat window that I care about.  With 100 people standing about talking, I imaging there will be a constantly scrolling wall of text, with something you would be interested in scrolling away before you even had a chance to notice it.

I'm being picky about chat, mainly, because that is why I pay to subscribe to an MMO versus playing a single-player game.  I like to interact with others, and chatting is a major part of that.  Maybe, on trial, I would find it not so bad.  But on paper...It's just not for me.

I hope you can remain positive, and enjoy your game.

Thanks for the information!

Originally posted by Dunraven

Guild chat expected soon and perhaps we'll get group chat if grouping ever gets added but things have to be done the hard (fun?) way, atm. ;)

They want to encourage co-operation & interaction not just killing.

 

A couple things...

Your review does NOT sound unbiased.  Lately, when that word is used on this forum, you can expect the exact opposite.  It sounds like you have pointed out some good and some not-so-good, but it seems, to me, that you try to put a positive spin on the not-so-good.  It sounds more like shilling, and less like honest reporting.

In particular, I find the two quotes above disturbing.  No guild or EVEN GROUP CHAT at this time?  Huh?  They are having lag problems and they don't even have these basic functions operating in the background?  That is not promising.  The first statement completely contradicts the second.  They want to encourage co-operation and interaction...but give you no method to chat with those you are cooperating with?  Huh?  You say "Fun?".  I say "No!".

I don't understand all the venom towards Cryptic and CO.  I look at the MMORPG Site Rating and User Rating for this game, and they are pretty high.  I read the comments here, and on the CO site, and they are full of venomous and disillusioned players. 

Why are these two things so far apart?  Are the comments posted from a very small minority of players, or are the ratings bought and paid for?

Not flaming or calling anyone out really, I just want to know the lay of the land before considering purchasing and playing another Cryptic game (played CoX for a while).

Originally posted by ForceQuit

 

Have your servers hosted professionally at a datacenter.  You can ramp up hardware and bandwidth dynamically and as needed by renting it, and these days it is really quite a cost effective and efficient means of doing so.

 

Intelligent posts and posters are forbidden at MMORPG.com.  Please dumb it down, or see your way out.  Thank you.

Originally posted by trnqlChaos

Me too. It was fun for about 5 minutes. Now I get to play the login min-game.
 

This was an added feature for you, our loyal fans.  There will be no additional charge for this feature.

I have to say, this write-up got more and more entertaining as it approached the end.  I thought it was funny how the profanity increased until the end.  My favorite line " See the fucker sneaking past it? what an ass" ...I laughed until I cried.

Very entertaining post.

Originally posted by Dalmont

So, you had an unexpected feature happen to you and you lost your ships.

 

Oh well, next time you won't.

 

Now I'm just trying to work out why CCP is trying to make suck ballz....Are we talking about godstoppers or some kind on ball gag? 

I had tears, very funny.  And about the original post, am I the only one that sees the irony in "jus to lazy"?!

Your problem, Bax, is that you misunderstand the game.  The game is NOT about PvE...at all.  They spent the minimal time necessary to put out the meager number of missions that they have, and, if you call them out on it, I think they would admit that to you.  They are not ashamed, and would tell you that this game is about PvP, not PvE.  They put a little PvE in there as a way for new players to get started, and for players to earn ISK in order to buy and lose ships and mods in PvP.

If you are playing this game for PvE, you are not going to enjoy this game; you will ALWAYS have complaints about it.  PvE in EVE is shallow, and is only there for a specific reason, and that reason is NOT enjoyment of PvE.

Originally posted by Ambre

I agree the game feels laggy. Probably because of the OB and so many people joining in (I havent played the CB). The ground part of the game also feels clunky, much more than Champions combat, that adding an additionnal layer to the "lagginess" feeling. Space feels better however (if you expect not having a real 3D movement/gameplay).

Often times, online games are deployed to server farms to run on when released to market (going live).  They usually have more bandwidth, and newer/faster servers to run on at that time. 

The costs can be high though, so some companies will house betas on their own gear so as not to go bankrupt before going gold and release to market, where they start getting higher income flows.

If it's unplayably laggy; I would be very concerned, as it is more likely due to bad netcode. In all fairness, it also has to be pointed out that in beta, the developers will be running monitors and logging activity much much more heavily in order to spot bugs.  This puts a great strain on the server, and can result in a good deal of lag.   If it's a bit laggy, that's to be expected and should, in large part, be corrected at release.

At release, I would expect the game to have similar lag issues as CO has, since the base is same/similar.  If CO is ok for the most part, I'm sure STO will perform that way also.