Originally posted by Jakard

I've only gotten through the demo but the game looks like a lot of fun. Skyrim is an awesome game and it's sort of unfair to compare the two titles, IMO.

 

Single player RPGs ; Yes difficult to compare, give me a break the two games are very comparible difficult for anything to beat Skyrim at the moment..... But if the demo has anything to do with the live release the game is not as polished graphically it's inferior with respect to detail and the loot and chests seem very linear prescriptive drops where a  lot in SK are random.

Something to play but not what I expected ......

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Master10K

Huh? So first I hear about World of Darkness being developed by a skeleton crew

 

Same... last I heard this was firmly on the back burner because CCP admitted they were spread way too thin, and now it's to 'dominate'?

'Dominate'... I have a feeling they are going to regret using that word...

 

But then you aren't really CCP and more than likely will never reach their levels of acheivment, so even if they fail they will have tried. Can you say as much ?

I respect any of the big development houses trying to produce and deliver games for us to play. They won't regret anything.

Originally posted by AcmeGamer

  Good article and I agree across the board. Beta is now a useless PR tool. Smoke and mirrors by and large. I won't even bother to sign up for betas anymore.

 

Most of the games now are so simplistic they in reality have no complex systems that really need testing. The genre is pretty much dead for anyone with more than an IQ of 1.

Originally posted by Dracill
100% this.

Hardcore pvp players are leaving already. They aren't coming back. Change the game to please those players is going to do harm to the game.

But at this point I can only trust BioWare and hope they continue to please RPG players.

This is a PvE small group toryline MMO, PvP is just not the priority just a sideline.

Originally posted by Brenelael

This is exactly why I've given up on the genre for now. I like the journey more than the destination... always have. In new games it seems the journey 9 times out of 10 is a very narrow corridor funneling all players toward the end game. I couldn't give a rats ass about 'end game'. I'm hoping that ArcheAge coming from an Asian developer with a lot of sandbox elements will break this trend but I'm not holding my breath either. Lineage II was the last game I played that put the journey first but even that has been highly sped up with their F2P conversion. Hopefully the creator of the original Lineage and Lineage II Jake Song can recapture what I miss about MMOs with his new project ArcheAge.

 

Bren

The only games these days that provide anything nearing soem longevity are MUDs with small communities of 60-100 people. A lot more enjoyable than the trash dished up these days .... If you wnat an interesting read go look up "Citadel of Sorcery".

Their main aim is to re-introduce a challenging Quest based game; With it's roots based around developing charachters; The game has no endgame but has god like beings in the game from day one enter their lands and you are dead. Something that if they deliver should revolutionise the genre and provide some of us with a real game to play with content that is always unique with true charachter histories woven into every quest you ever get.

Look it up it will make you smile (just the concept will), the world is the size of the  Earth.

Originally posted by Dragonbornee

Ok before skyrim a few games i was playing where Risen And Dragon age orgins and witcher 2 now when i try to play these games i have 0 interest at all!!! i cant even be botherd to roam the lands and explore or even do quests anymore in them cause skyrim set the bar so damn high!! anyone else feel this way?

Skyrim is nothing special ; Just a well put together single player RPG.......

Other RPGs still offer a lot to be so short sighted as to be able to appreciate this I feel for you....

I think you may just be bored with games , life has lots more to offer than gaming have a break for a month or two and then come back and see how you feel.

Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

Not sure I think it is to do with their success....... Todays gamer seems to be full of hate and jealousy and just looks to anyone to blame for them not getting their imaginary UBER game. probably something to do with the fact that the average gamer is pretty immature.

Originally posted by 4bsolute

Man... I just came home from a pub and I found myself really bored this Saturday. I am bored super rarely! But it happens, and when it happens I do not install a new game and just consume over my feelings - no - I ask myself, what went wrong?

Are gaming politics somehow badly made up this and the late last year speaking of game releases? I feel myself deep down in a dark void where no quality games are available at the moment.

I dont have BF3, Skyrim was done super-fast due to literally no-story and too easy difficulty (even on hardcore), Deus Ex 3 was really good while it lasted, I dont own a D3 beta which has replay-value, a Dota2 beta I own, but its really not my type of game.

So I just re-checked all MMO releases, all free ones and all good paids: There is no MMO which can attract me atm. The games I installed yesterday till today - no kidding - were GW1, Age of Conan, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Rift and Vindictus. I said myself "Long time no see, hay lets give it a try!" - but sooner or later I deinstalled them again.

So, besides BF3 (because I dont own it, my brain thinks it could be quite interesting) I cant think up >>A<< title who could interest me. I love RPGs and FPSs and well, what can you do when you play Games for over 12years now? Am I sated?

Time to lay down the keyboard and mouse until a possible GW2 beta appears on the horizon?

try World of Tanks ; If you are so good that will turn you into a pile of scrap metal rather rapoid but the game is fun .....

Originally posted by Bunks

Originally posted by eric_w66

Originally posted by Bunks

Originally posted by eric_w66

Good to hear new content coming. I'm not cancelling, nor are the 2 coworkers who play, and my 5 friends who play. All of us are enjoying the heck out of SWTOR. I don't feel like a sucker because I bought the CE. In fact, even the "Extended" circle of people I know in game (new guildmates, friends of my friends, etc), no one is cancelling...

thats great, but its easy to counter that by saying, that almost the entire SWTOR group on my ventrillo server cancelled last night. 15 out of 19. 2 weren't online and the other 2 had 3 month subs.

 Heh, did they "cancel"? Or did they really cancel. And what MMORPG is your ventrilo server moving to that is going to rock? If there's a better option, share it with us. Or is it back to MW3?

No they actually cancelled, as in deleted all info and stopped playing.

Maybe this is foreign to some, but our group is a band of players from all gaming sets. We have 45 members who at one time or another played a common game. For example, Operation Flashpoint was our first, which is why 25 of us are ex-military. Some are going back to Rift (3 I think), some back to WOW (most) and the rest are going to play more of what we all play already. Skyrim, Evachron Mercernaries, Battlestar Galactica Online, and some even want to retry EQ2 and STO.

but they all share one theme, EA and BW are liars and scammers. The chat got so ugly, I had to log off before 9pm.

 

We are talking a game here which costs pretty much nothing . Not sure what you expected but they delivered exactly what they said they would a pleasant stroll with lots of Story....

Poor Review; The game delivers exactly on what it always said it would. it is a shame some people don't review with respect to what Bioware said they would deliver as against a set of false expectation.

This is a PvE focus; for small to medium sized groups never really supposed to be anything more.

Originally posted by mrshroom89

Originally posted by Arkinia

Originally posted by Torgrim

Been reading a lot on these boards and on other gaming forums that people are leaving TOR before the free month is up, either be it at max level with fully geared toon players or people gotten bored before hitting max level.

Have any of you seen this on your server or less logins in your guild or friends stopped playing?

I wouldn't site this forum as a serious resource. 

No Forum about a video game, especially an mmo can be used as a serious resource

 

Obviously if you purchased the game and are enjoying it you are too busy having fun and playing to come post on forums.

 

If you didnt like the game and now have nothing to do your prolly going to go to a forum to bash it.

 

 

So much common sense you need to be careful ; I agree 100% with the above....

Originally posted by dermy

Gameplay and story are not the same thing.  The gameplay is something i would expect from a 2004 wow not a 2011 swtor and should be scored accordingly.  Other then that I would agree with everything else that was atleast stated or talked about.

 

Until developers start to add something more back to MMOs above and beyond a health Bar then the gamplay will stay as generic as ever.

Variety of advancement in MMOs at the moment is lame to the point where few gameplay options are really available.

The speed of light in 2011 is still the same as it ever was in 2004. Nothing has really changed. Unless they revert to the older variation of MMO where you actually had to play the game and live in the worlds. And communication was necessary to advance.

Originally posted by Mellkor

So i finally got the game working,

Wondering which servers everyone has rolled to? Is everyone here spread out or is there a large chunk of the mmorpg community on one particular server?

Would be good to game with some of the community is why i ask :)

Most people playing don't really bother too much here.... I suggest the official forumns will get you real community.

Originally posted by Aquazen

Not too suprising, I tend to get everything digital on the pc now-a-days.

Digital these days is two click and download why would i waste; Time and money on petrol when it is just so easy to buy online. Game is still great with friends, interesting post for info but not sure it has any real relevance at this point.

Originally posted by xenogias

Large worlds (only played a couple days so only seen up to tatooine) with 2-4 quests per quest hub and no real reason to explore is kind of boring really.  Large worlds with an overall lack of reason for it being so big should be left to mob grinding games. Asherons Call is a great example of this. Other than some really cool looking areas the biggest reason to explore beyond "random stumbling into something cool moments" was to find a secluded area to grind. In TOR it is irritating (at least on tat) to do a couple quests then travel a couple min to the next couple of quests hub.

AC now theres a real game......... Especially before the Buff Bots appeared...... Just used to love the dungeon portasls off of the main landscape game well done shame AC2 never lived up to expectations.

Originally posted by aligada87

starwars is nice but dont think its game of the yr, and im playing it atm. if it is im surprise cause the game doesnt offer that much

I'm not surprised nothing has launched that is better........

Originally posted by Eir_S

Dismissing my comparison because of the markets they're aimed at is typical.  GW2 is going the non-sub-fee route and are completely confident in doing so, and their budget is massive, and there's no doubt in the minds of the industry that they will succeed.

The concept on the last page that "box price + subscription fee is necessary" for an MMO is 100% conjecture, is my point.  Plain and simple.

As for my example being absurd, I'm looking at this from the standpoint of someone who questions why sub fees exist, not how much they cost or whether or not everyone can afford it.  They don't exist for a good enough reason to the player to continue to be a prevalent payment model, and they never will.  They keep you playing in mundane ways to fill up time so you stay addicted and playing until the next renewal period.  That's absurd.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/37537/Opinion_Guild_Wars_2_Fights_The_Subscription_Racket.php

I'd pay the cost per month is a triviality about 5-10 minutes work real life for hours and hours of gaming. Who cares if the payments are necessary it's good value for money. If I go out and do most other entertainment activities it will cost me  aheck of a lot more than an MMO subscription.

Originally posted by Mithrandolir

Originally posted by Teala

ArcheAge Game Video  <<<  clicky

 This will be the first true MMORPG since UO.  

 

It certainly has that potential for me. I'd much rather play a game like this, with ambiance and atmosphere, with a world around me, with dynamic weather that affects crops, etc.. with day/night cycles, with the ability to exist as something or someone other than the main hero in some linear storyline, with a community and economy  that is dependant upon each other... yes, I'd much rather play a MMORPG like this.

 

 

As Long as this is against the  World , with added conquest then fantastic. If it's just going to be another gank fest why waste a beautiful world all that is needed is a small 4x4 Arena.

Great gadget shame the game has no real challenge that requires this unless you are 100% PvP.

Originally posted by Sharpeh

What's up guys?

 

I made a video about a quote from one of the ArenaNet developers. He explains really well why Guild Wars 2 is different than other MMOs!

 

You can find the video here: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXdcJDRPZuU&feature=sh_e_top&list=SL

 

I figured I'd make a video like this to end the year 2011 on! What do you guys think about it?

 

Happy New Year everyone!

It's an MMO same old same old.

Until a developer removes end game/guilds/insta sell travel  and releases a real MMO we can actuall enjoy for more than a couple of months I am not really interested.

Longevity / Game Community not Guilds and a world that fights back i.e has some teeth are what makes a real good MMO sadly 95% of developers fail...