Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by convict

AA, does it say part of being a cooresponant is to go through every post that doesnt priase the game and try to defend Funcoms faults?

I say just be a correspondant and post info like you've been doing, and leave the calling people trolls, pointing out their post history, alt accounts and pretty much calling them liars out of it..

Just an idea..

 

with the amount of mis information on the web I'm not surpised that he acts this way. People that stopped playing the game in june/july still think the game is in the same sad shape it was in then and that FC is still full of lies and empty promises. Its not on both points.

FC is still full of lies and empty promises. They will be, until every single feature on the box gets implemented. I stopped playing after the first half of the PvP patch and still got OOM errors on 3 different systems. Sorry if I don't just fall for some letters or open mails.

I think its pretty much obvious that the AoC correspondent is a fanboy and won't hear any flaws for either AoC or FC, so its pretty useless to argue with him :)

I'd only expect a 7-Day trial for returning members, maybe 10 or 12 if Funcom feels generous.

They won't (or shouldn't) do it before adding DX10 and (all kinds of) content first. Which, in my opinion, at the end of 1st Q 2009 at least.

Since most people says this isn't an asian grinder (check that thread) this shouldn't be much of a problem, in fact, it would be better than our old-new friend, XP debt.

XP loss only hurts when you have to work 12 hours to recover the XP you lost after counting things like healers or potions that recovers some portion of the lost XP. If the game is going to have XP loss and won't be another asian grinder, it certainly needs to have a de-level system, otherwise losing XP would be another form of XP debt.

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Well, somebody got to pay for my alts.

Necessary evil. Thats why everyone sells it with their alts instead of mains.

It largely depends on your server, if you were playing on EU servers before, tough luck, because most of them are dead except t8 and below tiers are populated solely by alt leveling. No idea how it is on US servers though.

Game has changed alot, everything is easier, takes no effort. Your only enemy is boredom because you can do about anything without any real danger.

You'll enjoy it if:

You have old friends that can group with you or,
You enjoy solo A LOT,

EQ2 changed alot, to me, not in a positive way, game become too easy, too wowish.

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by Ephimero

Small difference, AoC and WAR used NDA, Aion hasn''t used it. It's way easier to make an opinion of a game if you don't rely exclusively on dev-spoonfed information.

It's a great game, and I've tested it, does it hold any weight now? I'm afraid it doesn't, however, I do think so, and I have my arguments to think so. Read my posts if you're interested on them.

Thank you Ephimero, that is a breath of fresh air seeing a beta tester of the game post like you did,  Btw, Nick you keep comparing this game to AoC and WAR. Henceforth the reason why your view is so limited. This game may have similar atributes but that (I believe) is so we wouldn't have to spend most of our time trying to figure out how to play an mmo all over again, why re-invent the wheel. It is in a class to itself and (in my personal opinion) NOT to be classified as a rip-off of any other game. I doubt anyone would take four years or so to just make a game that is a rip-off of another.

I dunno if you really wanted to chat about Aion though, I think you just wanted to correct my spelling lol

dno't wrry' me wil xpel beter nex tyme four yoo.

First of all, this is the first time that i ever compared AoC or WAR to another game.

Second of all, if you take a look at my sig, you'll see that I also am waiting (aka looking forward to) Aion.

Finally, "I doubt anyone would take four years or so to just make a game that is a rip-off of another", I think you should take a look at MMO history a little closer.

Also, I don't think there is a need to repeat my original point.

Originally posted by kingbarth

Originally posted by Nickless_man

Originally posted by Scripture1

IT'S A GREAT GAME

 

And, you know that because you are in Closed Beta or something?

"but lets not pin the "IT'S A GREAT GAME" tag on it until it has been given a chance"

Fixed that for you.

 

Mindlessly calling a game "just another Asian Grinder" is just as bad as calling that game "ITS A GREAT GAME" (nothing personal intended, just an example)

 

sorry if this sounds smartassish but its called research..... it is a great game and its shaping up to be even better than great  just read around at all the sites/blogs that have tried it

Research.

Isn't that what players did while waiting for AoC and WAR? Only some closed beta players and trolls (by luck) saw those titles for what they truly are.

Doing research doesn't mean anything. As for the blogs, well, lets just say Tortage was also great when various sites and blogs tried AoC out.

Everyone is entited to their own opinion of course.

Originally posted by Scripture1

IT'S A GREAT GAME

And, you know that because you are in Closed Beta or something?

"but lets not pin the "IT'S A GREAT GAME" tag on it until it has been given a chance"

Fixed that for you.

Mindlessly calling a game "just another Asian Grinder" is just as bad as calling that game "ITS A GREAT GAME" (nothing personal intended, just an example)

Originally posted by Theutus

Good game... Don't like the UI or the fact that I can't figure out how to holster my weapon... it's aggravating having my gun block my view while I'm chatting with friendly npcs... "don't mind the gun I have pointed at your face, have ya seen my dad?"

Press and hold R (reload key).

Looking for it on options menu ftw?
 

A shame to be honest. I never played this game, but wanted it to be successful.

I think lifetime subscribers deserve a full refund (which sadly won't happen).

Electronic Arts + Lucas Arts + Bioware + MMO = Big LOL imo.

Bioware doesn't have any experience on MMO's so they WILL copy paste most of the popular MMO features and dumb it down even further.

I still believe Lucas Arts was participating in NGE and CU, KotOR 2 fiasco makes me think the game will be released before its ready.

Electronic Arts also doesn't have credible MMO experience, their only big title is Warhammer and thats in a decline.

I don't see a bright feature for SWtOR.

PS: I like KotOR 2 better than KotOR 1, but it still was a fiasco because the game was released unfinished because of LA pushing developers.

Right..

Eve doesn't have a full loot system and it also doesn't have more then 200k+ subscriptions even though its like, 5 years old.

FYI, Eve doesn't have safe zones, they have "safer" zones. All it takes is a war dec and thats gone aswell.

Full loot phrase alone is enough to gather PvPers imo.

If thats the "new" graphics, sorry to say but its nowhere near EQ2 graphics.

Originally posted by Warpriest02

But you should see in game at max, looks better than EQ2 imo.

I doubt that. Screenshot please :P

To recap..

Release a short news bit regarding widespread and significant change that would occur in 48 hours.

- Buried with other news minutes later.

- 50 pages of posting follow, discussing the legitimacy of this change as per the reasons given.

- Locked 50 pages of posts because a blog was posted, that repeats the same message.

- Dev blog mentions the 'business side' of this move, which the news post omitted.

- 70 pages of new postings follow.

- Thread disappears from Information Portal. Players find it and continue posting.

- Player guide gets edited to remove controversial remarks.

Without discussing the removal of "ghost training" specifically, what we have here is an attempt to pull a fast one on the players. It is easily the biggest attempted ninja nerf in the history of this game. Your customers deserve:

- More than two days of warning, so they can find out about the changes and plan accordingly

- More visible warning, like the login screen MOTD

- More transparency and honesty about the reasons by discussing all the reasons

Hard decisions are always hard, but how you handle them determines if you gain or lose respect. The player is going to feel screwed by changes that affect them poorly, and this is the equivalent of adding insult to injury.

A lot of people are willing to defend this company regardless of what they do (4S name change, t20 scandal), but this community was built on a common respect for the makers of this game even if they didn't always agree. That was eons ago.

You might not see a dip in subscriber counts, but you'll see an increase in player churn that requires more marketing money to support. You not only lose massive amounts of free word of mouth advertising, but scare away players with the amount of ex-EVE types that leave disgruntled at something you did.

Just wanted to quote an excellent post from official forums.

Original thread

This won't make me leave EVE, but it will make it harder to come back. Ghost training is all about coming back after taking a break. It's like a "Welcome Back!" present.

Nice move CCP.

Originally posted by Jatwhal

Originally posted by AndrewGoat

I have 2gb ddr2, and a GeForce 8600 GT. Pretty much every game out, sans Crysis and Warhammer, runs fine on my setup. Sorry. I don't see me spending 600 dollars building a whole new setup just to play one game, even though the thought crossed my mind when I started playing Warhammer.

Umm wait you first said it would take $200 to upgrade ram and video.
 

Now your saying $600 to play War??

Simply put if you're running 2gb DDR2 and a "botched" video card (I'm not familar with those) then all you really need is a $30 video card............

Or is this just the typical WAR H8r /Obama tactic of keep switching the bar believing your lies are true so you can always complain about something.

Actually, you can play AoC with everything on max (except shadows/aa) with that card. I know i've done it with my old computer.

Honestly, there are specific drivers that creates performance problems with certain systems. most people says they tried numerous etc with no luck. In most cases, these "numerous" driver switches IS the cause of slow downs in the first place. Most people still doesn't know how to uninstall drivers.

Developers should have optimized their system for popular hardware though, it is clear there are some issues with the client itself when it comes to slowdowns. Whether they'll fix or ignore these problems, we'll see, in time.

As for the subscription numbers, who cares? Important thing is, to keep the population steady with regular updates/fixes.

Just wanted to clear somethings about Turks playing KO.

99% of the Turk population playing KO are at 8-14 age range. Internet cafe's are full of them. More "mature" players looks down on this crowd and usually don't even interact with them because of the same issues most of you had explained. They cheat, beg (and they beg a lot), grief and do any kind of nasty stuff, simply because its the internet.

Most of the "good" players i know already left KO for other games, mainly WoW, so all thats left for KO is just some silly 12 yr-o kid, buying bronze premium with his lunch money (most Internet Cafe's acts as a middle man for these transactions). I myself haven't logged in to that game in 3 years now.

In Turkey, KO kinda became like what Starcraft is for Koreans right now. Only difference is, target audiance is a lot younger/immature. So as a Turkish citizen, I mostly agree with you guys when you say "Immature Turks ruined this game". Saying "Turks ruins MMO's" is just incorrect.

Good thing is, most of these kids don't have access to a credit card, and the ones that do have access (via their moms), usually play WoW.

I beg to differ.  Look at any of the title tracks since Nightfall came out: Sunspear, Lightbringer, Vanguard, Asura, Dwarven, Norn, Kurzick and Luxon.  Each of these title tracks offers rewards in the form of skills that invariably make your character more powerful: some of these skills are absolutely necessary in certain dungoens in EoTN (LoD, for one).  The higher your rank in these tracks, the more powerful you become via these skills.

I remember when they released the title system first, they assured us that, titles won't give any advantage in any form. I was actually shocked that titles were giving (however small) advantage over other players. Titles aren't just "cosmetic" anymore.

The arguement "If you don't want to, just don't do it, no body is forcing you" is irrelevent if the said grind/action is the only way to advance your character further. You are playing this game to advance your character (and have fun while, or after you do that).

Honestly, I have no trust left for Arena.Net after the GW:EN thingy. They just did everything they said that they would never do with that expension/time period.

Tell me if this screenshot doesn't look like a female warrior in Knights armor with Kryta background :P

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/screens/display/14334

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/screens/display/14312

Hell, this city looks just like pre-searing Ascalon

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/screens/display/12548

I'm not saying they are the same, Aion uses CryEngine 1, so it has overall better graphics like detailed shadows, lighting or spell effects. I've checked every Aion screenshot I can find (on this, and on other sites), majority of the screenshots gives me a "Guild Wars" feeling with similar graphics design. Only screens that don't give me that feeling are character close ups and general flying-with-wings thingies.

Anyways, graphics aren't final yet, some of the screenshots has way too much low res textures, and some others have general higher quality than others.

Edit: Btw, I'm just compairing with GW because thats one of the titles I played, that's why I'm not compairing it with FFXI or Lineage 2, because i didn't played those.