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Originally posted by teco221
Bullshit. There is not enough quest xp to level to 40, not even close. A least 60% of all of your xp was from mobs. Just because those mobs were part of some quest does not make it quest xp. You may have been working on a quest the whole time. So what. I just did a quest that had me kill 60 lepharists. It gave me like 500k xp. Killing 60 lepharists is like 2-3M xp from the mob kills.
You could probably level to 50 just by doing repeatable quests the whole time. You would be working on quests the whole time. You still would have leveled 90% of your xp from mob xp since repeatables give shit xp as the quest reward.
The quests in this game are a non-factor. The only ones that matter are the ones that give a good item or a bunch of monye or the very rare ones with decent xp (like some campaign quests). Those are few and far between. The vast majority of quest give something like 250k at level 35-40. Considering you need 26M xp to from 37-38 most ppl can do the math. There are not 100 quests at that level, the vast majority of the xp you will get at that level will be from mobs.
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Originally posted by //\\//\\oo
Yes, most of the BoP items are quest items. However, a lot of the open world loots are BoE. I was just in an ice claw group yesterday where a 32 gladiator ninjaed a blue sword that a temp wanted (the gladiator already had a better weapon and had no intention of using it); drama ensued and he was kicked from the group.
Come on people. Fire Temple? The whole place is BOP every non-world drop is BOP even the greens. It is the most restrictive loot table i have ever seen in an MMO. The amount of misinformation about this game sometimes boggles my mind. There is tons of BOP in Aion, even on just plain stupid stuff. Open world stuff tends to almost always be BOE. Instances are rife BOP. Fire temple is ALL BOP. Training grounds boss items are BOP. Do you know how many ppl are losing good equipment because of myths like this? The boss of trianing grounds give only BOP rewards and people are not even realizing they are screwing ppl over by rolling because someone told them stuff that is not just inaccurate but wildly and completely wrong.
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Anyone who thinks quests are a decent or even viable way to level is either vastly ignorant or lying. Can you get a journal full of quests? Yes. Does it matter? No. Quest rewards are by and large a joke.
70% of quest at level 30+ give the equivalent of one solo kill of an elite. I can solo an elite in 4-5 minutes on my ranger in high 30's. Those quests take quadruple that time and there are not anywehere even close to enough to give you a level, there are not enough to even give you half a level.
80% of all xp is from mobs. Some ppl come on here and claim doing the repetables means there are plenty of quests. They conviently leave out that 90% of the xp they are getting is from the mob kills from those repeatables.
Not only is solo grinding the fastest way to level, but quests themselves are no where even close to even half of the xp you would get. Quest xp relative to mob xp is minmal.
All these ppl talking about their quest journal being full have no idea how the game works. Its not even up for debate. Anyone saying quests matter has automatically shown themselves to not have any clue. Once you get past level 20 or so you should understand this. Anyone level 30 or higher who claims quests mean jack diddly poop is either lying or so incredibly clueless that they should see a doctor and get a CAT scan. |
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Fire Temple is a retarded waste of time, worst I have seen in any MMO. The various quest level requirements are very stupid and self-defeating as well. |
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I have a question. As a ranger i can grind on mobs +5 to me with little problem if I find the right ones. Will 40-45 be less hell if I do this?
Because I know what OP is saying is true. I am in a large legion with many ppl 38-46 (more than 20 ppl), and every single one of them is saying the same thing. |
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Originally posted by Wolfenpride QFT
Quote For Error. This game does start at end game. Have you been the Abyss and seen the level 40s do nothing but kill level 25s and never fight level 40s? Have you seen the bots and ppl who obviosuly bought kinah? Have you seen the forts and the way PvP ranks are structured?
Don't kid yourselves this game does start at endgame and the grind at the later 30s and the 40s is rather long and definitely pretty much mindless crap. And if you don't grind on both XP and gear in a mindless and not very fun way you will get your ass torn out. I mean have seen the hair/molar quest or lepharists oaths? Talk about lazy design and stupid boring grind.
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by auto attackers you mean ppl who stand still? Because I Auto Attack with a bow while moving forward. In fact I finished someone off with Auto Attack yesterday. |
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Originally posted by greed0104
The block list is of limited size and I know of ppl who have already reached it. At the rate this is going you won't have any options in 1 more week. getting to leve l10 not that slow. NCsoft needs to instantly delete these people that + the 3 hour to level 10 thing may be enough to keep it under control.
Without them deleting these guys aggressively no one will be able to use that channel in two weeks time. |
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Originally posted by Javafan
Lies... all lies... There are no bots. NCsoft is using GameGuard that works perfectly and blocks all botting/cheating applications.
It's like in those commercials with the detergent dissolving the fat layer on the plate.
NCSoft is banning bots. I know I have seen some bots with my own eyes get banned. But there are still tons and they need to destroy the spammers. Its completely obvious to a human. Just pay some GM to impersonate a player for like 3 hours twice and week to instantly nuke every single guy who sends a spam tell or channel message.
Another thing that is going on is ppl are getting accounts stolen. Alot. Someone in my legions got their account stolen when their little brother logged into a phishing site.
Aion is really undersiege by these guys and many of them are flat out criminals. Its not making the game unplayable by any means. But its getting pretty serious. They need to bring the hammer down. Hardcore. And they really need to figure out some way to have people who get their account stolen to get adequate customer support. Spamming admin messages every 15 minutes about phishing sites is all well and good (although it almost killed me because it obstructs my view) but its that that hard to have a process in place to validate the identity and un-hijack the account. |
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The LFG channel is insane. The last couple days its just gotten out of hand. normally I find spammers an annoyance but this actually pisses me off. They are like locusts they have completely destroyed that channel. I can't read the spam its so bad.
The LFG channel sucked anyway, half the time it was a bunch of losers in a never ending argument about WoW. But still this is just out of hand. |
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I have this issue as well. According to a very well researched thread on aionsource it is happening across a very widespread collections of configurations spanning almost all OS and VC brands/configurations.
I have a beefy computer that runs lag free as long there are not network issues. But last time I tried a fortress siege I crashed about 15 times even with avatars turned off via shift f12 and turning down my various settings. Its especailly annoying because not only does the crash port you out of the fort but it puts you in a very dangerous place ripe for ganking in the case of sulfur fort.
I hope this gets fixed I like the PvP in aion but if i can't do fortress sieges then I may have to cancel. I tried the various "solutions" and as the aionsource thread mentions they do not work. As a computer programming professional I am fairly certain there is a client side memory leak/addressing issue of some sort. For some reason the memory addressing is reseting to zero and accessing protected memory space causing the OS to shut it down/crash the client. And it is only happening when there are a lot of players nearby. This is not a graphics glitch it is a memory management issue. It may be graphics memory related but there is something wrong with the code. Or some strange interaction with the code and some memory management service/interface. |
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Originally posted by grapevine
I played on Nezekan in CBT and Morhiem was pretty much overrun perpetually with Elyos ganking was rampant and very disruptive. But I still made it to 25, garnted i grinded level 24 on mobs in eltnen because it was safer there than my home zone. In release on a different server Elyos have come in force and been pushed out and there is really never the perpetual camp like there was in Beta. |
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Morhiem and Eltnen are PvP zones, so they do not get channels. Brus and Theo always have at least 2 channels because they are PvE zones. |
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Crafting items can definitely be enchanted but some items, in general, seemed bugged I have had certain items always fail on an enchant I think maybe they have in correct levels for the purposes of enchants. |
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The loss in PvP is via AP. Why are you trying to muddy the waters with extra mechanics that mean very litte? AP loss is far worse to a lvl 50 than any paltry xp loss. Pointless masochism. |
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I wouldn't worry too much about the microtransactions.
Why do I say this. Well for exactly the same reason you say Aion is not for your friend. This is not a DIKU game. Even if they had equipment based transactions (which I do not believe they do). It really would not matter that much unless you got really into the PvP. Frankly the game is just not even close to balanced enough in powers for them to sell stuff in this way. And the grind for equipment does not make much sense either. Especially once you understand the crafting.
You seem to be aware of the games problems. There is no doubt it is still a pay to play beta IMO and not just in power balance the aggro in groups is whacky. I think it is a pretty fun game even with the nerfs and other problems but its not finished really. Its not a con-job like AOC was at release. But it has a number of whacky things.
I personally took a break from the game as I basically have no idea whether Cryptic is going to radically alter any character I make which kind of killed my ethusiasm for making new characters.
Since your friend is new to MMOs I am not sure what to say. I made a pretty powerful character and was able to do well even after the massive nerfs. But some people have had real trouble and I believe I can see why (in Canada Crisis if you get held my the middle level LT class mobs you can die fast).
If this was end of OB /headstart I would say go ahead it would be fine. I don't really know what to say now. |
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I think review is accurate. But giving AoC a 9/10 and this a 6/10 is sheer lunacy. AoC had almost exactly the same problems but even worse and IMO was even more unfinished when you consider promised feature like DX10 and sieges.
Probably this is not the same reviewer I didn't bother to check, but like I have said in the past MMO reviews are not even worth looking for even if they are sometimes accurate like this one. |
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Originally posted by maskedweasel
Well, as this wasn't really a heavy hitter of an MMO to begin with.. cryptic really needed to hit this one out of the park on launch.. and even with the END Builder I was against in Closed Beta, and the lack of content I talked about in CB, and even the balance issues I spoke about in CB.... if they released it bug free and worked on balance on the side, I think they could've saved themselves SOME heartbreak and implemented balance when it was more polished. Instead they generated an earthquake that brought millenium city to its knees for 12 hours. Thats the opposite of what should have happened.
It more than just the earthquake. They created some of the problems that killed AA. One of those was significant content gaps with very little mob xp. In AA on release the mutant side had quest gaps and mobs gave very little xp. The only solution was an awful grind becasuse the game was not made to support that kind of grind. Unlike Aion where grinding on mobs is viable and useful xp.
CO did not have this in the last weeks of OB and headstart then they introduced, in a stealth release day patch, the very problems that killed AA, even though AA had some fun and innovative stuff just like CO.
It just so fucking strange/insane I am really flabbergasted. AA always had that problem. CO just decided to re-put it back in after fixing it in beta. |
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Originally posted by ethion
As a general rule 10x concurrent users is good for subs. But obviously that is super super rough estimate. |
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Originally posted by PatchDay
Something is odd. I think they killed a potentially successful game in a matter of hours. And I mean Auto Assault killed. |
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