Finally an article written by someone with a gamer iq over 10.

If studios would simply make a game to fill a market/niche instead of trying to be all things to all people, game quality would go up 1000%. You can have a very successful game and make a tidy profit without 10 million subs.

It doesnt really matter what fragrance poop they shovel out the door. It will suck, it will be pushed out way too early, and they will gouge the subscriber.

I think the past free months have come after some big update that was supposed to have "fixed" all the bugs and performance issues and/or boosted content. I doubt there will be more freebies untill they have another patch that claims "fixes" the bugs and performance issues or offers something new to former players like aa or new raids/high level 6man dungeons.

Im sorry but its hard to take anything mythic says seriously or have faith they can turn anything around. When you follow daoc and not only make the same mistakes but actually make a worse game you obviously have no clue what you are doing. Class balance important in a rvr game?really?wow what a concept. Exact same issues with crowd control and area of effect as in daoc?really?wow,who would have thought.

Im going to laugh when they release an expansion that forces a pve grind for rvr goodies.

Vanguard is a mediocre game at best with no future. Sigils interoffice mismanagement,drama and politics ensured this game would release in horrible condition while $oe ineptness ensures it will never succeed. $oe will not invest money up front to improve and advertise for vg in order to attract new players and vg will not attract new players without improvements and advertisement

A large, non linear,non instanced world is the main selling point but too much of the current gameplay is buried in game mentality from the 1990's. If vg launched in its current state it could have kept enough subs for the game to be better fleshed out and be a real force. Shoulda,woulda,coulda, that didnt happen so here we are.

Current vg is a fun game up to level 50 if you have some friends or guildies to group with, can overlook lots of bugs and broken mechanics, and understand it will suffer the same fate as MxO. Its not a question of if but a question of when.

Wow, just wow. Two games that have been out less than a month, inclusion of vanguard, exclusion of war and aoc, and half a dozen cartoons. I guess the only real surprise here is that darkfall wasnt number one on this list as well.

In the future you might want to separate ftp from ptp and maybe even games for those under 12 years old and those over 12 years old.

Btw how much time did you spend playing each game? I mean since this list is strictly your opinion you must have some first hand knowledge right? How much time did you spend playing every other mmo that didnt make the list that was released since wow ?

As someone who played doac up until toa i had high hopes that war would be an amazing game. Unfortunately mythic learned nothing from their mistakes with daoc and his 3 big reasons why war didnt do as well as hoped only highlight this.

Have no interest in the game myself but pre orders dont mean jack nor do initial box sales. How many games in the past couple years have had huge preorders/initial sales only to crash and burn within 3 months?

I think both the free transfer service and the consolidation of servers is a good move. This is coming from someone who rarely has something nice to say about $oe.

What a joke. Why dont you stop the charade and just declare this the darkfall #1 fansite?

Seriously, the game is a niche game with a very small following. Most gamers outside this site have never even heard of the game and those that visit this site wouldnt have either if you didnt insist on plastering crap about it on the front page on a daily basis.

Thanks for the update but i wouldnt call any of those changes "hefty".

As far as all the whiners crying about this further dumbing down or making the game easier, there is a reason they have 11m subs. They didnt make this to be a niche game. They wanted it to appeal to as many people as possible, from pre teen to the retired and they have succeeded.

If you want to camp some mob for 18+ hours, killing placeholders and hoping he drops his "rare", there are games you can play for that. If you want to spend hours traveling around trying to find a place to grind exp, there are games for that too. If you want to mindlessly kill mobs that offer no challenge for weeks on end to gain faction so you can then craft cultural stuff or be able to buy/sell crap, there are games for that as well.

Originally posted by Nightbringe1

Originally posted by finnmacool1

Originally posted by Elricc

Most of the forums and sites that I visit all seem to have the same messages comming from the player base.  WE ARE TIRED OF PAYING FOR GAMES THAT SUCK!  There is even a TV commercial out about this very subject.  Games that are unfinished and unpolished just plain out suck, specially when you have to pay for the game and the monthly subscriptions.

I would willing pay an extra five dollars a month and ten dollars upfront for the release of a truly great game that was well thought out with meaningful content and interactive storyllines.

 

The only way that will stop is for people to stop paying to play games released in beta shape. Despite the outcry from the community when it happens too many people sub anyways. It has become such common practice that it almost seems companies do it deliberately. They know they will lose a lot of subs in the short run but that they can con enough to pay the bills to get it to the point where they might win back some gamers months/years later.

 

The other problem is that most of the players don't want storylines in their quests and don't bother to read them when provided.

As for paying to play a game in beta? /shrug, development on an MMO is never ending; content should be periodically revisited and revamped, it just needs to happen more frequently when the game is young. Heck, why not make if official; charge people $15.00 to start playing the game a month before launch with the explicit understanding that their characters will be wiped. Give them a few days head start after the character wipe and before launch as compensation.

Hey  if people want to willingly fund the development of a game to release quality more power to them. As long as they are aware in advance and recieve no meaningful in game benefit post wipe.

As far as the tried and true smoke and mirror argument about mmo's never being "finished", sorry that dog dont hunt any more. Huge difference between a game being released with minor bugs,dialogue errors,etc and a game with major tech issues (constant ctd, major mem leaks,etc.) and primary aspects (combat,crafting,skill development,class balance,leveling,etc.) being broke.

Originally posted by Elricc

Most of the forums and sites that I visit all seem to have the same messages comming from the player base.  WE ARE TIRED OF PAYING FOR GAMES THAT SUCK!  There is even a TV commercial out about this very subject.  Games that are unfinished and unpolished just plain out suck, specially when you have to pay for the game and the monthly subscriptions.

I would willing pay an extra five dollars a month and ten dollars upfront for the release of a truly great game that was well thought out with meaningful content and interactive storyllines.

The only way that will stop is for people to stop paying to play games released in beta shape. Despite the outcry from the community when it happens too many people sub anyways. It has become such common practice that it almost seems companies do it deliberately. They know they will lose a lot of subs in the short run but that they can con enough to pay the bills to get it to the point where they might win back some gamers months/years later.

MxO was horrid at release and $oe did little to improve that. I am surprised at its closure however, i didnt think any game on the pass would be shut down. I think a few other games on the pass may follow.....

Considering the plethora of crap games released 2008, i dont think being on that list is a compliment.

Originally posted by Nizur

It went live Tuesday, but thanks for posting the information!

They are too busy posting daily dfo topics to keep up to date on other games.

Originally posted by armanth13

Exactly.  If Blizzard would make a MMO that isn't simplified, dumbed down, and made easier at the whim of whiners then maybe they'd have a winning product like they did when world of warcraft FIRST launched. 

You make it sound like they dont already have a "winning product". I would argue that its dumbing down and simplification is a large reason why it has more than 5x the subs now than when it launched.

What gamers need is more devs designing games for niches. Instead of trying to make a game all things to all people and failing miserably, fill a niche.

Originally posted by Myrathi

Originally posted by beauxaj

Say does anyone remember Space Hulk? oooh that was a great one back then.  

Doesn't mean that blizz doesn't make a great game.

 (most of the end-game raids, now, can be completed by Joe Newbie Bloggs and his 9-24 little sheep with no more than a pre-written raid guide that's usually available before the raid instance has even been released to live servers)

Please list all the games this doesnt apply towards.

Whats with all the crying about blizzard games being based off something earlier? Every video game ever made can be traced back to a tabletop game,book,mythology,history,etc. geez.....

Originally posted by alkemist

Hope this is a joke. So basically the game is 100% perfect minus 3 things.

You obviously didnt read the "overview" or you would know that the 3 things you claim are minuses are actually "non issues". I guess we know where the iraq minister of information found work after the invasion.

Why exactly do we have more darkfall news threads on this site than the game has subs?