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All Posts by lomiller - 1784 found

6/22/08 3:42 PM
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Drilling what?  There isn’t enough *proved* reserves off the cost to meet US needs for even a single year.  How is that supposed to bring down prices? 

6/22/08 3:08 PM
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Originally posted by Draenor

One would think that a man as "educated" as Siobable would realize that the government is the primary reason for the sodomizing that he gets at the gas pump...but oh well, he can keep hating all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons.

 

 

Ummm no.  Gas prices are what they are due to market forces; it’s the free market doing what the free market does.

6/22/08 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by SioBabble

Originally posted by Ampallang

 

While I like the prospect of humbling oil companies, I don't believe this is a particularly good idea.  As is commonly known, if the government gets involved with something it is bound to complicate it a great deal.  If the companies were nationalized there would probably be gas lines and feuding with beauracracy.  No I cant spell that word.


 

The problem here is you, as is true of far too many who post here, have no idea if "involving the government" with somthing will "complicate it a great deal".
If it's "complicated" it's because checks and balances needed to deter, prevent, or minimize fraud, waste, and abuse.
Bureaucracy is not the sole province of government.  Waste, fraud, and abuse exist in fantastic amounts in the private sector.  Take outfits like Halliburton and KBR, for example.  A government auditor lost his job because he refused to process government payments to these two parasitical entities who were not fullfilling their contracts and our soldiers paid the price for it, as they received substandard meals and other services from these two entities.  This man was doing the right thing, holding these corporations feet to the fire, and was fired because he was doing his job, not kowtowing to the cronies of the war criminal Cheney.
The key to avoiding this sort of public financed private plundering getting good, professional people (not asshats like Abu Gonzalez, for example) in place who are dedicated to providing solid, responsible management of the assets.  Then holding the feet of war criminal pirates like Cheney to the fire. Medicare fraud, for example, isn't perpetrated by the government functionaries, it's perpetrated by private sector greedheads like the Frist familiy of Tennessee.


 

You are so naive i don't even know where to start.

 

 

Actually his post was pretty bang on.  True naivety is trying to erode the power of democratically elected governments so the wealthy can anoint themselves kings/lords 

6/19/08 7:56 AM
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Originally posted by Blomi

 

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

 

Epic failure

 

I guess blomi would prefer to keep making up his own “facts” then discuss the published science.

6/18/08 7:20 PM
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The construction that raised the energy use of Gore’s in 2005 has been done for some time and his home is recognized as one of the most eco friendly in the US.  The energy his house is supplied under and agreement with the power company that allows it to rely exclusively on power generated by solar and wind. 

 Just to further point out the abject dishonesty of the right wing bloggers some posters use as their primary information sources, they actually count the higher cost of relying exclusively on clean generated energy against Gore.  It raises his energy bill and they present this higher bill as “using more energy”

6/18/08 5:04 PM
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If 1998 “Was the peak” why is every year from 2001-2008 warmer then 1997, 1999 and 2000?  Your own chat shows a normal year is now equal to an exceptionally warm year like 1998, so what happens the next time a warm year hits? 

6/18/08 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe

 

Okay... so why did the Earths temperature DROP for thirty years after WWII? This was the point where man made CO2 emissions were at their highest, yet the temperature made a radical drop that didn't end until the late 70's.


 

 

 

Wrong on both counts. Temperature dropped for 5 years during WWII then held steady for ~25. This is entirely consistent with the known forcing. 
 

 

Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe

Also note that 3,000 years ago, the planet was a full four degrees warmer than it is now. That was a time of prosperity for every civilization on earth. It's estimated that we won't reach that state until about 100 years from now.

 

Wrong again, study after study has show temperatures today are as high or higher then any point in the last 2000 years, and most likely comparable to the Holocaine maximum 8500 years ago. The last time it was 3 deg warmer then today was a full 125K years ago, and the last time it was 5 deg warmer then today was 5 million years ago.
 
 
 
Note that on this scale 20th century warming is basically a vertical line. 
 
The last 5 million years. 0 deg is circa 1950 temperature. (On this scale absolute peaks less then many thousands of years disappear. For example the peak 125K years ago is ~3 deg warmer then mid 20thj century, but it only lasted about 1000 years so it doesn’t show up. 
 
 

6/17/08 6:05 PM
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Calling people names isn’t going to solve anything. Just because you don’t want to pay your own way doesn’t mean the rest of us should just looks the other way while you dump the cost of your lifestyle on others.  

6/17/08 4:29 PM
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Blomi, if you had really studies epistemology you would know that just because you don’t “know” the sun won’t explode tomorrow doesn’t prove that it will. 
 
That’s really the argument you are trying to use, even though 99.9% of all papers published agree global warming is happening and caused by humans, you are trying to insist that that 0.1% doubt is all the proof we need to conclude it isn’t.
 
The question here is whether you are going to side with science, or follow the latest political blog with the blind faith of a religious fundamentalist following their holy text. Whichever you choose, the science is clear, overwhelmingly so, with thousands of papers published on one side and virtually none in opposition. 

6/17/08 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by bluberryhaze

 as high or higher standards of living is completely subjective. 


 

 

Live however you want, just don’t demand handouts to subsidize your lifestyle. By insisting that someone else pay for the cost of your CO2 emissions, handouts are exactly what you are asking for.  

6/17/08 9:56 AM
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Originally posted by outfctrl

  Can anyone really argue that a half degree warmer world is harder on the poor than a $45 trillion dollar price increase in energy costs?

 


 

 

Now that’s some real alarmism. Japan and most European countries maintain standards of living as high or higher then the US and yet each person only produces 1/4 – 1/2 the CO2. 
 
Clearly reducing CO2 output isn’t as economically damaging as energy company spokespeople would have you believe. Wow who’d have suspected corporations would deceive people to pad their profits!

6/17/08 9:51 AM
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Agriculture is prospering due to unsustainable energy inputs and unsustainable depletion of aquifers for irrigation. Neither of these are helping to worlds poor, in fact subsidized western agriculture has driven large numbers of third world farmers off their land and into city slums.
 
Meanwhile agricultural production in Africa and Australia is already suffering due to drought, and agriculture in the US, China and India is living on borrowed time as their sources of water for irrigation deplete. 

6/17/08 9:35 AM
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Originally posted by outfctrl

I guess NASA is wrong too.  NASA is so right wing.  Dont believe them.  Keep at your agenda.
 

LINK


 

That's not a link to NASA it's a link to a blog run by Anthony Watts

- Watts doesn’t work for NASA

- Watts has never published a paper relating to climate

- Watts  is an incompetent moron

 

For some moderately technical dissection of some of watts “arguments” trye the following links.
 
 
 

6/17/08 9:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe

BTW, if scientists are still viciously fighting about quantum physics and various segments of the phylogenetic tree, why wouldn't they also debate over the impact of humanity on global warming. The term "scientific consensus" immediately makes me skeptical.

 

 

Scientists do argue over many aspects of climate change. However, some things they no longer argue about include:
- Humans are responsible for the rise in CO2 over the last 150 years
- CO2 causes the planet to warm up
- The warming over the last 100 years is outside what can be expected from natural variation and requires some type of forcing to occur.
- No mechanism other then CO2 has been proposed that can explain warming over the last 50 years
- you can’t explain the warming over the last 100 years without manmade CO2

 

Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe

As was pointed out before, humanity contributes very little CO2 when compared to naturally occurring phenomenon. So far, our only answers are 1) make cars that emit a different green house gas, i.e. water vapor, or 2) make electric cars that will be largely charged by coal burning power plants.

 

And as was pointed out that’s complete fiction. What that claim amounts to “if I inflate a balloon, and then deflate it there is CO2 coming out of it an increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.” It just doesn’t work that way.
 
If there is so much natural new CO2 entering the atmosphere why did it just start 150 years ago when people started burning fossil fuels, why does the change match the amount fossil fuels we have burned and why do the isotope levels of this new CO2 match that of burning fossil fuels and not match natural sources of CO2?

6/16/08 9:41 PM
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Originally posted by outfctrl

Stop it....NO GLOBAL WARMING

Lets just live our lives without the worry.. 

LINK

I am so tired of this religion called Global warming.....IT IS BS

Dont get me started....I will end up banned again....LOL

 

 

 

 

You realize the guy they are interviewing isn’t a scientist but a corporate lawyer and lobbyist right?     

6/16/08 9:32 PM
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Originally posted by Techleo

 If a volcano erupted, the excess Co2 was simply absorbed by the increased plant production. Unfortunately the system doesnt work so well anymore.

 

 

Actually the CO2 emitted by volcanoes is balanced with the formation of carbonate rocks like limestone.  The CO2 emitted by volcanoes, in turn, mostly comes from those same carbonate rocks when they are thrust beneath the earth as a fault line which forms the volcano.  This process takes millions of years, of course. 

 

You are exactly right otherwise.

6/16/08 2:37 PM
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Originally posted by outfctrl

 

Some Quick Facts:

Some real facts

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant, but a naturally occurring atmospheric substance.

So it water, that doesn’t mean you can’t drown in the stuff.  

CO2 makes up .054% of the atmosphere.

Many naturally occurring substances are fatal at smaller concentrations then that.  

Volcanoes produce far more CO2 than humans.

Not even close to being true.  Burning of fossil fuels emits more ~150X as much CO2 as volcanoes.

Animals produce more CO2 than volcanoes.

Matter can’t be created or destroyed in chemical reactions, so it’s impossible for an animal to create carbon.  

Decaying vegetation produces more CO2 than animals

 
All this CO2 came from the atmosphere when the plant was alive. Since both plants and animals only emit CO2 that has been previously absorbed from the atmosphere tehy cannot change atmospheric concentrations.  

The OCEANS produce more CO2 than vegetation, animals, volcanoes, and the puny, insignificant amount of CO2 humans produce.

The oceans are absorbing more CO2 then they give off, so they cannot increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. 


 


 

6/16/08 2:09 PM
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Originally posted by outfctrl

Well, global warming is simply not happening. Worldwide there was a significant natural warming trend in the 1980’s and 1990’s as a Solar cycle peaked with lots of sunspots and solar flares. That ended in 1998 and now the Sun has gone quiet with fewer and fewer Sun spots, and the global temperatures have gone into decline. Earth has cooled for almost ten straight years. So, I ask, where’s the global warming?

 

 

That’s just a line of BS designed to scam noobs. 1998 had the strongest El Nino on record.  A strong El Nino can raise the temperature for that year by as much as 0.5 deg.  Even without an El Nino 2007 matched 1998, so the baseline temperature may be as much as 1/2 a deg C warmer.  
 
BTW Solar activity has been decreasing since the 60’s so it can’t be responsible for any of the warming we are currently seeing.

 

 

Originally posted by outfctrl

 Earth has cooled for almost ten straight years. So, I ask, where’s the global warming?

 

 

 

A few cooperate sponsored blogs like to cherry pick 1998 when they develop their trend lines, but if you do the math correctly the trend is still going up.

6/16/08 8:36 AM
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Originally posted by enzyme

i wonder if children and senior citizens will still score the most points?
 


 

 

From the looks of the trailer they ditched all the black comedy aspects, and just made a running man ripoff.  

 

Originally posted by enzyme

PS - "it's a hand grenade"


LOL, I had forgotten about that

6/15/08 8:44 PM
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Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by Laserwolf

I believe in Global Warming and that we are causing a great deal of it. If I am wrong the air, water, and land is a little cleaner. If you are wrong you are being a puppet to Big Business which pumps millions of dollars into trying to make Global Warming a "He-Man v.s. Hippy" issue so people will be stupid enough to Fiercely defend pollution and manufacturers taking no steps to cut down on pollution.


 

I friggen hate this kind of logic...if you are wrong, then the world is a little bit cleaner?  Yeah, but let's neglect that if you are wrong, we spent billions, if not trillions of dollars trying to fix something that wasn't broken.  Cost of food has already gone up as a result of all of this climate change nonsense, global warming alarmists, along with environmentalist idiots, are ruining our economy with their  notion that "hey, if we're wrong, then so what, you get a cleaner Earth to live in" but that's just not the case...will the earth be cleaner?  Maybe...will our economy suffer for it?  Absolutely.

 

 

It hasn’t cost the EU “Trillions” to control its CO2 emissions.  France, Germany, Japan, the UK, and pretty much every other rich country in the world produces 1/3 - 1/2 the CO2 per person as the US does.  Are you saying the US economic system is so ineffective that it would cost trillions to match what Europe has done for relatively little pain? 

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