I know this thread is a few months old but i got somethings to say.

I just started playing wow almost 2 months ago and so far i feel like i have achieved alot compared to what i've done in 2 months as a noob in other mmo's.

I mean the first month i had a 57 hunter and a 68 dk and like 2.5k gold not including the 100's i spent on stuff.

And i haven't even really done much group stuff or dungeons/instances just questing and whatever.

I slowed down playing after the first month and started some alts and tried some bg's so my dk is only 72 and has full rest xp but ... questing 60+ seems like if you play alone.. the quest rewards are really good or good enough for questing/soloing.

Seems like you (the OP) wants to be able to have the best stuff and not have group to get it.

But the "best" gear is supposed to be a challenge to get so making the best stuff easy to get is kinda dumb not to mention it's a MMORPG ffs.

You can still be pretty strong in quest/drop gear you can get solo, there are other mmo' where that isn't possible.. like Anarchy online for example you need to know people or try hard to get a team in that game to do anything and every thing is work atleast in wow you have the option to play solo from lvl 1- max lvl and do pretty good.

Like i said my dk is 72 and if/when i get it or any of my chars to 80 i can choose to keep playing alone or do hard core grouping for really good gear or i can play lower level alts or whatever and occasionly raid/group for good gear.

But when i get my dk to 80 i might just leave it in whatever the best gear i could get on my own is and jsut use it to run guildm8's or whatever through instances and collect minerals/herbs and whatnot there are alot of options. And play alt's.

i'm not an elitist.. four years or so of anarchy online taught me not to worry about being the best or better then the majority and to just try to have fun and be the best i can be without getting annoyed by to much work.

if the open beta was near the finnsihed product i don't think they should release it sept 1.

they should keep working on the game and if they need money i don''t see why they and other companies don't have paid betas  for like $5 a month instead of 15$. it supposed to go live in like a week and i felt liek i was playing an early beta class wise i mean they quest where good and the tutorial zone was really good but once i left the tutorial zone it went down hill.

I never really liked wow but i think it's the second best mmorpg ever made to me Anarchy online was the best.

But ferentus would of had Wow spot in second if it was still around.

I think they don't put enough into mmorpg's they always feel to simplistic or they are too much of a grind or the classes are crap or they focus to much on pvp to me.

Wow is an ok game because alot of the classes actually feel like they have a purpose to me, they are built to work with a group and can also solo and it feel right, some games the group play with a class just doesn't feel right for me like rappelz, i liked playing healer in AO and wow but in rappelz the mp issues and needing a second healer made me hate the class.

Not to mention rappelz grind and lack of groups. which is also a problem with  some games, finding groups.

but i'll say the number one problem is the classes for me, if i like my classes i keep playign the game till i can't stand it anymore.

Usually though i try an mmo and since i've already played ao for 4 years and tried a lot of other mmo's i get bored right away with doing the same crap i've done in other games and have to push myself to level so i can't get higher to get a good sense of the class but some times they don't want you to be able to level fast so you can get to the point to see how your class would feel once it starts getting more spells/powers/abilities it's just a slow grind and by the time i get once class to a point where i feel like ok i hate this class i don't feel like going through it again for whatever reason. So some games i don't give a fair shake but my assumption that the rest of the classes and later content would suck i think is usually correct.

Wow kinda has that problem too though but it's not that bad getting new spells as you level is kinda slow and for me i used lvl 20 for the point in wow where i decided if i liked a class except for druid and priest i waited till 35.

Maybe they need to make a seperate server for these games for new players to test with 2-3x xp atleast to level faster to see if they like a game. Idk it's just kinda hard to deal with the grind when they don't give you much to take your mind off the grind.

Ao i enjoyed most "classes" from the start didn't feel like i was too weak for lacking spells and i for some reason hardly felt like i was grinding till high up in the levels and when you have 200+ levels you can let the first 100 or so feel kinda fast.

It's the f2p games tho that i feel the leveling is made to be slow. p2p the classes just suck to me like coh/mxo/swg nge/aoc/champions online.

Eq'2 i don't know why but i didn't like it and lotro too.

Maybe they need to take into accoutn soem peopel have been playing mmorpg's since and before wow came out or something i don't even know starting to hate mmorpg's

Now all we need is a pill to help Night Elf and Gnome males get an erection.

And a pill to make Draenei woman less ugly .

I  turned on godrays and a ninja jumped out of my computer then it disappeared.

Next day i found my laptop was missing think that damn ninja stole my laptop.

I 100% agree with everything you said after the stuff about Player Killing.

found it hard to get dungeon parties at lvl 50's

WARNING DO NOT TURN SHADOW RESOLUTION TO HIGH !!!!!!!

I tried it but then like 5 minutes later i saw smoke comming from my computer case so I unplugged it and got a screwdriver and opened the case.... apparently the hamster inside it got upset  at me for changing it to high and must of started gnawing on some wires and got itself killed in the process so the smoke coming from inside my case was burnt hamster flesh and fur.

So if you don't want to turn the hampster living in your computer case suicidal don't turn shadow resolution to high.

R.I.P Ferentus.. it's time to say goodbye.

Ferentus is gone and never comming back.

I miss you old friend.

Been playing Anarchy Online off and on since 2006 or 07 when imo the population became crap to hard to do things with low population in that game so i go from f2p games mostly rappelz for a few months and eventually go back to AO for a month or 2.

Stoped going to Wow from AO after 2.4 patch had nothing to do with the patch thats jsut the last time i tried getting into wow. after 2.4 patch i just gave up.

I've tried alot of betas when taking breaks from AO aswell.

atm there is nothing for me trying to force myself to get into rappelz like i once did.

On the lookout for anything to play.

Tried AA3 a few days ago but i shoot my teamm8's too much  because i found it hard to tell which is the enemy and which is my team so quit that.

I've tried basically every mmorpg that is 3d and a few 2d.

I kinda feel like if ferentus was still around i'd be playing that..

I'm not really looking forward to any of the mmorpg's in development  atm

Anarchy Online maybe.

Can't pick just one for Anarchy Online.

Anarchy Online - Keeper

Anarchy Online - Bureaucrat

Anarchy Online - Adventurer

Anarchy Online - Meta-Physicist

Anarchy Online - Trader

Anarchy Online - Fixer

Wow - Druid

Rappelz - Spell Singer/Evoker

i got 3 chars to level 52 and at 50 it's reall slow and boring for me.

I'm starting to hate rappelz.

Yeah i figure my rappelz guild will be just me for awhile, i'm going to keep trying to find people who like icp and rappelz who play on  or are willling to switch to YETI server and if it's still just me in a few weeks i'll probably just change the requirements.

And yeah i was never really into Rappelz either until recently i used to play rappelz every few months for a week or so since it's Open Beta but always got bored within a week or 2 and never made it past level 30 on any char.

started playign again a month ago and within that time got 2 chars to lvl 50 and experianced dungeon parties and done alot of solo grinding.

Yeah there are things about the game that annoy the heck out of me but it's the best free game i've found so far other then anarchy online, but i played anarchy online for 4 years so it's boring for me now.

I just started a guild on YETI server Called InsaneKlowns.

I'm looking for some Lo's and Lettes that would want to join.

If you are a Juggalo or Juggalette and would like ot join InsaneKlowns you can leave you IGN here and i will contact you or you can contact me in-game.

IGN to contact me is 5kuly.

If you aren't down with the Klown plz don't ask to join.

I doubt it's Daemon tools causing you the problem.

I have problems loading some sites sometimes too sometimes, it's usually just a bad connection to some routing point or dns servers.

I think it's just a net issue but if it's not maybe you have spyware/adware when you installed daemon tools maybe you choose to install that adware it comes with to keep it free.. when you install daemon tools (and other free software) it usually  asks you if you want to install the adware junk.

Anyway you can try Spybot-S&D and Adaware

I find it best to use more than one scanner because one usually finds things the other doesn't.

But like I said it might just be a problem somewhere between you and the sites you are trying to contact and there is nothing you can do (maybe your isp).

Good luck.

I'd like an invite if possible.

My email is skuly1775@hotmail.com

Anarchy-Online

Originally posted by Slanger

SOE is the DEVIL!!! How dare you enjoy your self in one of their games... If you enjoy it whoot! Good for you! I played from launch and tried it about a month ago and it I simply could not get into it with all the jedi's running around. But if is what you're looking for;

I know alot of people post all over the net about how they hate SOE but i'm pretty sure this is the first time i have no the net.... i've had SOE sucks discussions in  real life with my friends but i don't think i have said anything online about it.

Personally i didn't like SWG before NGE... but before NGE i did play off and on I never played it hardcore 24/7 like i used to play Anarchy-online but  i found it a fun game to play casually.

So I'm not extremely agnry about NGE because it took something awsome and turned it into shyt but more that it took something ok and turned it into shyt.

What really upsets me is how SOE/Lucas arts say they are dedicated to SWG and care about the game.

But they didn't stand by SWG they destroyed it and started over. Detroying it and starting over isn't standing by your product.

If the game servers stay up as the population goes lower and lower will show that SOE will stand by what i like to call SWG2 I think they are willing to stick it out till the end and thats what upsets me why couldn't they just keep trying to improve what they had instead of destorying it and making a new game. When you make a game you are supposed to stand by the game and try to improve it,,,, totaly changing a game is not sticking by the game.. SOE basicaly gave up on SWG and remade it into what it is now SWG should be called SWG2.

I don't trust SOE as a company now i don't care if i am missing out on a good product or not.. because if i get into any game they make and spend alot of time playing whats to stop them from totally changing the game a year or two down the line.... I have stuck with Anarchy-online for years now and while they do make changes (which all mmorpg's should do) to me they haven't completely changed the game into something else the core of the game is the same. So i keep going back to AO.

I don't play wow i tried it but never really liked it, but i have heard people say they game has changed alot since TBC I don't know much about that but i'm sure it's not as big a change as the metamorphosis of what SWG is now. The only reason i even play SWG was because of the skill system i feel that was a big part of the game.. taking that away and disabling alot of other things isn't adding to or building on core gameplay like what other mmorpg developers do to improve their game.

Even if i had liked NGE i can assure you i still would of backed away from SOE.

Maybe it's just me but if your best friend totally screws you over big time, do you stand by him and just hope he doesn't do it again or do you tell him you screwed me over big time i can't trust you anymore and part ways"

I can't support SOE/Lucas Art alowing "NGE" (New Game(yes) Enhancement (I wouldn't use that word)).

So i can't support them at the very least they could of freaking kept pre-nge or even pre-cu and just had seperate devleoprs for game improvments to both the NGE game and Original.

SOE is the DEVIL!!!