All Posts by smg77

Really their biggest mistake (other than going with SOE as publisher) was to force two different playstyles to engage in gameplay neither of them really want. PvE players are often forced to travel through the red circle gankfests to turn in quests or get more quests. PvP players are forced to grind NPC ships to create the red circles in the first place. Neither group is happy so everybody leaves and the game fails.

Honestly, was anybody surprised?

Originally posted by Vetarnias

Still no response from the devs over that, and yet now there are news that some of the most gank-friendly posts in that thread have vanished (surprise!).  But "no crying in the red circle" is still going around, quoted by both devs and players alike.  Surely they must have seen that was a mistake by now?

I think this is going to be a case of FLS not wanting to admit they were wrong. You're right, though, some of the most vocal griefers on their forums haven't posted in weeks.

Originally posted by salvaje

There are three rational reasons for them to come here and defend the NGE:

1. They genuinely like it, and think that our criticism is causing it to die.  Least likely.

2. They are paid to do it.  Very likely that at least one of them is (and I have a source telling me that in at least one case, this is true).

3. They get off on being trolls.  Also very likely.

 

You forgot one. There are certain posters (I can't mention their names because every time I make a post about them I get a warning or a ban) here at mmorpg.com who have a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome.

Originally posted by lulsauce

 

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Originally posted by smg77
I'm hoping they are close to announcing free server transfers. That will be the final death knell of the game. The low-population servers will get emptier and the people who got tricked into paying $50 bucks a pop for a paid transfer will howl like banshees.

Then again they may just continue to do nothing about the population issue and the servers will just empty themselves over time.

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this will be a slow death. no server merges for that would show how empty the servers really are.

Meh...merges would actually help the game because at least the two servers they had would be populated. It would be way more fun for them to announce free transfers.

Originally posted by Jodokai

Originally posted by smg77

Originally posted by Jodokai 

SOE has improved most of the games they have been a part of. The one game that hasn't been is SWG. What's the difference between SWG and the other games? LucasArts.

No the only difference between SWG and the other games is that SWG underwent a fundamental change to its core gameplay. No other SOE game has done that.

Pretty much every company that has ever worked with LucasArts has sworn NEVER to do it again.

Do you have any proof of that? Don't say Bioware since they just put out a press release saying they are working with LucasArts on another project.

When the NGE came out LucasArts said they were going to be working closer than ever with SOE. LucasArts gets closer, we get the NGE.

Do you have any proof of where LucasArts said they were going to be working closer than ever with SOE?

 Stop posting your opinions as if they were facts.

Last time since it's easy with one quote. If you look back to my past posts (which is another thing that has become such a chore with this websites upgrade) you'll see a poster named Shayde quote is OFTEN and post a link to it, so it is a fact and was said by Juilo Torres, who contrary to popular belief worked for LucasArts (I say contrary because any time he opened his mouth everyone attributed it to SOE saying something) . If you bothered to read the thread your responding to you'd see someone else give the details of the other companies that don't like to work with LucasArts, so that's pretty much a fact too. And even if it was Bioware, the fact that they were so upset with LucasArts to mention it to begin with, speaks volumes.

I looked through the thread and don't see the proof you're talking about. Since you won't go into why you hate George Lucas so much the rest of your rant is meaningless.

http://potbs.armeagle.nl shows real-time server populations. It's currently primetime in the US and *all* servers are listed at light.

Originally posted by maffew

 

 

So I can't talk because I haven't held a grudge against soe for years about something that happened in a GAME? I don't take games so seriously because thats what they are, games. If you treat it as something bigger you need help.

I'm sorry that your servers are empty and people are leaving in droves but the vets aren't coming back. Get over it and move on.

Originally posted by Gutboy

You know the current chapter gift to all players is the "War terminal" besides being one of the best looking house decor items it also has great functionality for the GCW.

In real time it shows the current planet score on all planets, the number of rebel and imperial bases on each planet, the status of the three static PvP bases (corellia, naboo and talus) if they are secure or under attack. It also displays and alert if any player placed base is under attack and the exact waypoint to that base.

That in my opinion is a much better way than the system we had from launch (which was not a system at all).

 

I do think the war terminal is cool looking. It doesn't make up for the rest of the game, though.

I'm hoping they are close to announcing free server transfers. That will be the final death knell of the game. The low-population servers will get emptier and the people who got tricked into paying $50 bucks a pop for a paid transfer will howl like banshees.

Then again they may just continue to do nothing about the population issue and the servers will just empty themselves over time.

Originally posted by Jodokai 

SOE has improved most of the games they have been a part of. The one game that hasn't been is SWG. What's the difference between SWG and the other games? LucasArts.

No the only difference between SWG and the other games is that SWG underwent a fundamental change to its core gameplay. No other SOE game has done that.

Pretty much every company that has ever worked with LucasArts has sworn NEVER to do it again.

Do you have any proof of that? Don't say Bioware since they just put out a press release saying they are working with LucasArts on another project.

When the NGE came out LucasArts said they were going to be working closer than ever with SOE. LucasArts gets closer, we get the NGE.

Do you have any proof of where LucasArts said they were going to be working closer than ever with SOE?

 Stop posting your opinions as if they were facts.

Originally posted by salvaje

I don't believe in balance.

I believe in a system where the more effort you put into it, the better you are.  Those who don't commit will not be as good as those who do, unless they improve their efforts.

Balance=Boredom.

 

Players don't know what they are asking for when they scream for balance in an mmorpg. In a truly balanced game every attack, regardless of class or skill, would do 100 damage and every heal would heal for 100 damage. Sound like fun? Didn't think so.

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

Originally posted by iwantmyswg

wow

can the dev's come up with anymore lame ideas? and you fanbois claim the game isn't going to die.

Back to your bridge, troll.

Maybe he's working on his forum troll collection.

A milk collection? Seriously?

What won't they turn into a collection?

Originally posted by arlo_infidel

I am quite interested in how to achieve 90 in that little of time, especially if I can do it while I am at work. Then I can judge the end game content and PvP finally.

Anyways, anyone want to lend a pointer,

Arxlo on bloodfin.

 

 

Hooray for paying to *not* play the game!

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

Not only bias view, but also an incorrect one - you amuse me.

And the fanbois here are a pillar of objectivity?

Originally posted by xacova

Originally posted by smg77

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

Originally posted by forthelulz

all kinds of trolls here today and yet not one screenie of people enjoying the game. they can troll......but thats it.

Maybe their busy enjoying the game - genius.

All they have to do is hit the screenprint  button and upload the picture. That shouldn't take them away from their precious NGE for too long.

ok i may pay soe 9 pounds just so i can go in and take screen shots of how empty corbantis is.. come on someone save me 9 pounds ill give it some time

Sign up for a new player trial and suffer through the first 5 levels then you can take pictures to your heart's content.

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

Originally posted by forthelulz

all kinds of trolls here today and yet not one screenie of people enjoying the game. they can troll......but thats it.

Maybe their busy enjoying the game - genius.

All they have to do is hit the screenprint  button and upload the picture. That shouldn't take them away from their precious NGE for too long.

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by Beatnik59

Why does this forum even exist?

Good question.  To tell you the truth, it shouldn't exist.  Back before the "great schism," we used to be able to talk freely on the SWG General Discussion.  The fanbois got upset though that we were telling it like it is, so MMORPG.com created the "veterans refuge" in order to limit negative opinions about the current game.

Personally, I think it's stupid to have this forum too.  But the reason it won't go is because we'd then have to take our complaints to the SWG General Discussion, which will result in heated flames between the few fanbois and thedisproportionately large contingent of vets, making the game look as bad as it truly is.

So, in conclusion, all I have to say is "Mr. Wood, tear down this wall."

From what I can tell, having two forums doesn't stop the people from this one from going to the other one and bitching about the game, they just have to be a little more civil while doing it. I see a lot of the names from over here posting over there.

Kind of like you coming to the veteran refuge and stirring things up. Funny how that works.

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by smg77

Originally posted by kobie173

I thought you guys could come up with a better insult than "Toilet Boy." What are you, six years old?

Maybe you should ask why he's called that. There is a reason for it.

Enlighten me.

"Folks like me do not get to make those kind of calls. People who script/code are very similar to plumbers. If the bosses wants us to put a toilet in the center of the living room, we redirect the pipes, dig a hole and install that toilet in the center of the living room. I may be able to put one of those cakes in it that turns the water blue, but that toilet is going in the center of the living room."

Unfortunately we're going to have to go through several years of games that try to copy WoW and watching them all fail until developers actually start taking chances again.