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I would like a scroll.

coth101@hotmail.com

Thanks!

So anybody have any confirmations on what is going to be offered for end game?

I hope this isn't another solo game to max level then start the raid grind fest.

Burr

Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by fiontar

Yet another MMORPG that launched with way too little content.

The fact is that in spite of what some players and developers lately seem to think, leveling up IS the game. End game is just the filler to keep people around until the next expansion. I don't see how anyone can believe that a game where even casuals hit the cap in a few weeks can possibly sustain subscriptions based on running a few instances over and over again, with some battle grounds (warfronts) thrown in.

 

The fact is that in most games most people spend more time at level cap than getting there. Wether you like it or not, for most players endgame IS the game, and most players spend way more time doing that endgame than getting there. Actually, in most games, after a while, there are more players at level cap than players at all the other levels added up together.

Yes, the world is pretty small and there's not much to do in it anyway other than rifts and invasions (which are not that dynamic btw). However,  there's way more endgame content in this recently released game than there is in many games that have been out for years already, like Lotro or CO just to give you a couple of quick examples. 

Still, yes, end-game is the same gated gear grind that you find in any game. But then again you weren't expecting anything new, were you. We all knew the game was simply a very polished wow-clone.

We should be happy that finally a game gets released with so much content and polish. Finally, after the fiascos of the last 2 years looks like devs are getting it. Maybe we can hope that eventually we ll get games that deliver something new and fresh, new ideas and concepts instead of "generic WOW clone number X", but at least Trion could show a few veteran companies how to finally release a finished product instead of a P2P beta.

 

As of matter of fact 7 years after WoW has been released. I expect more then just a gear grind.

Sorry, maybe gear grind is fun for you, but it's the same boring thing every game. No orginality at max level. Gear grind is all these games have at level 50. The fun of leveling up is great, but then you get to level 50 and the only way to improve your character is via gear.

This is 2011, MMOs have been out for years. We aren't progressing the industry with the same boring gear grind.

Great polished game, and leveling to 50 was super fun for me. Then I got to 50 and my options were WFs, and dungeons.

Same model as other games. Why not put out more solo content at 50? AAs? Something else to do besides get the latest gear. I can gear grind in any game I want. That is not an 'end-game' I am seeking.

WFs are fun and all, but if that's al the game offers at 50 then it's not worth it.

I would stay far away from this game unless you are wanting a game similar to WoW.

We need origianality at level 50, or we need something to strive for outside of gear at 50.

Very polished game overall. Nicely done, just not the game for me.

I leveled to 50 pretty quickly overall; however, when i made it to 50 there wasn't much to do. So I figured, ok I'll play an alt for awhile, and see if the WFs etc start happening quicker. A few weeks later WFs are pretty much dead still. I did one T1 expert and said, yep, I'm done wasting time killing trash mobs for no reason just to get a purple plaque for gearz that I don't care about.

This game is at the end of the day a gear grind. There's nothing good about this game from a character progression stand-point except gear. if this game shipped with an experience progression at 50 (think AAs from EQ) I think I could had stayed longer enjoying 'leveling'.

I really enjoyed the game to 50, but the end-game is just gear.

Burr

Questions
General Discussion « Global Agenda
11/28/09 10:21:46 PM

I've been looking for more information about this game, and hope you can answer a few questions I have.

What do you get for leveling up? Do you just get more skills or what? What makes leveling up important, and how does that affect combat? What I'm saying is this like other PvP games where it doesn't come down to much skill at all, but more about how much gear I have compared to who I'm fighting.

Other then FPS combat, what is my 'agency's' main goal? What is the gameplay outside of the combat, like getting to another agencies city and ransacking it?

How is gear done, or is there no 'real' gear?

Thanks for answers!

Burr

I agree, makes no sense not to put out some real information, give real websites (this one) a preview to get more hype going, and to validate that the game does exists. You have to ask yourself, why would there not be any real information about this game out their? It's logic, all you people that are being blinded is fine, be blind, but don't come crying like all the people and Dark and Light that they couldn't get a refund etc etc.

Burr

When gathering information about this game, this game reminds me completely of Dark and Light. We all know how that was a big fail bucket, so with that in mind, what are the odds of this game being released but in a state similar to Dark and Light?

Burr

Is there even any rumors about a US Publisher for this game?

Burr

1. EQ - Wish was easier to go back to this game, but since it's been around so long. Wish they would make more progression servers with different rules for opening the expos.

2. WoW - Only game I seem to come back to after I leave. It's one of the easiest to 'start over' and that's very appealing.

3. EVE - I only played the trial, but this game is special for the right people.

Nothing else I would really consider making the list. I've played EQ2, Vanguard, LOTR.

Vanguard before release had a lot of potential to be a great game for people that wanted something similar to EQ, but the release was horrid.

Burr

Good to hear this! I hope the game stays very stable!

Burr

Most people's arguement is that 10 bucks a month isn't much. Clearly, it's not a whole lot of money, but it's the principle of the matter. Majority can afford 10 bucks if they want to.

If the content is worth 10 bucks a month, majority of people would play it.

It appears this game is very similar to Diablo 2, which was free to play online. The content of this game does not seem to be as large as true MMO's.

Would anybody disagree that what makes a true MMO, an MMO is a persistent world, a world you can explore etc etc? This is an action RPG, and an action RPG with a subscription fee just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Also, just so I know, does this game have something like LOTR where you get to be a forever member without paying a subscription again? I think somebody alluded to it, but I wasn't sure if that was the case or not.

Burr

It's not that 10 bucks is that expensive. It's the point of the matter. If the game is worth a monthly fee then it's fine. It's like telling us to pay 10 bucks for bad pizza.  Would you continue to pay for something that isn't worth it?

Some people just have differing principles about money.

I understand companies want to throw subs around as much as possible. After all, having a steady income is better then having just box game sales. Good business practice, there just comes a point where you have to ask yourself if this is worth the monthly fee or not, and get over the fact that it's only x amount a month.

Burr

That pretty much makes sense. If they released the game, and it flops, has a lot of bugs, which this one seems to have based on the poster here it ruins a lot more casual players and there perception of PE.

If they don't release only the people that follow many different games get the bad perception.

Burr

Why would PE not go ahead and release this game to get some money out of the deal?

Burr

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