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i'm reading thru the current features available to me ingame. as a player of darkfall, i'm curious as to what exactly is being advertised on the official, updated website?
Explore five continents, countless small islands, trackless underwater depths, and a sprawling underworld. Hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas await. <<since they mention these items.. doesn't that mean something worthwhile exists in these areas? what is underwater, in regards to exploration and adventure? hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas? i take adventure areas to be like... a fort with trolls or elves in it... hundreds??? where's my hundreds??? Play any of Agon's six dominant races. Each race has a unique set of abilities, as well as its own civilization, culture, and way of life. <<< unique set of abiltieis? like the wolf guys running as fast as a horsey? oh wait... that doesn't exist. what are my unique racial abilties again? Meet hundreds of unique monsters, and take them on in their lairs, strongholds and domains. Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past. <<< hundreds of unique monsters? repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past? where are my hundreds of uniques and my non-repetitive encounters? Experience a world brought to life by real-world physics and dynamic lighting and shadows. Watch trees and grass sway in the wind as sunlight peeks through passing clouds. Observe the movements of Agon's twin moons, which are part of a dynamic planetary system with smooth day/night cycles. Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing. <<< um, where is all this weather that has such crazy affects on warfare (both land and sea)... i mean, the weather in darkfall is more than just window dressing... why is it that a wind which can move a huge 200'+ tall tree, at its base... doesn't even mess up the hair on my character? i mean... wind that can move that tree, at its base... is hurricane cat 5 if not 6... Uncover the mysteries of an ancient civilization, which left more than just ruins for later generations to discover. Untold riches and incredible power is the prize, as you join the race to claim an age-old inheritance << a number of us have traveled far and wide... wtf does this statement refer to? has anyone found ANY of this? You don?t have to spend endless hours playing in order to enjoy yourself, or to become successful. Even if you only play in small doses, your character can be effective within his chosen field, and a lot of fun to play. Whether you?re looking for intense involvement or just casual fun without a huge time investment, Darkfall accommodates your playing style. <<< actual experience playing ingame proves this statement to be false. in order to be successful, in pretty much any field, you have to macro for days/weeks. if someone has experiences that contradict these experiences of myself (and clan/alliance m8s of mine); please post the examples, not just "nuh huh, you're wrong"... cuz it's rigor pyramids, walls of pain, swimming/running/sprinting/crouchwalking while at work/sleep, and all sorts of other macroing, in order to be considered successful in darkfall.
In Darkfall, there?s much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them. Darkfall?s skill based system makes sense, and it saves you from having to waste your playing time leveling. << again, from actually playing the game, all i do is level my character. every 25 points of a skill, you get the message "your skill X has increased to a new level". everyone shoots for the skill 75+ area of skills. so it's just a bunch of macroing to get to that level. the core of the game is sieging (i.e. taking and holding territory), you NEED to have high levels of combat skills (both attack and defense) in order to be successful at sieging. yes, a lot of zerging happens... a lot of zergers also have high levels in their skils.
You will never have to re-roll your character again. With Darkfall?s flexible character development system, your character simply adapts to the choices you make for him. We give you hundreds of skills to learn and master, and around a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in. << what prestige classes? You have the freedom to follow the rules, or to break them and face the consequences. Darkfall?s Alignment system is hard but fair. << um... big deal, i become "evil" and i can't go to the starter areas... is there something in the starter areas that i care about? i don't understand how this alignment system matters at all. Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience. << this is about the most inaccurate statement so far -- speed hacks, piggy backing, flying ships, et cetera...
In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players. << this is simply a lie. Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall?s virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse. << the bolded, italicized, underlined portion is simply a lie.
Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not. << this does not exist. Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire. In Darkfall, clans struggle for supremacy and survival as they compete over land ownership, resources, and strategic objectives. << what strategic objectives? it lists land ownership, resources AND strategic objectives... i can see the first two... where is the third? Your victories are documented for posterity and success is measurable, so you'll never have to wonder what really happened. << where is the "legend" "legendary" or whatever this system is called.. where is it? There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back. << tons of safe zones. this is another outright lie. Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones, or any other roadblocks that limit your game. Anyone can fight anyone, anywhere as long as they are willing to face the consequences - in the form of Darkfall?s alignment system. << did someone forget to tell tasos that darkfall has safe zones? and again, what purpose does the alignment system serve, in a practical sense?
You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall?s Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.<< how do i activate something other than the bulky, idiotically implemented text chat? Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards. << does darkfall have ANY features which the site says it has? seriously. When you play Darkfall, you take part in a constantly evolving, world-spanning storyline. Your reputation will precede you, and your fame will grow through clan victories and individual achievements. Whether you're a fearless fighter, a respected leader, a persuasive politician, or a skilled artisan, you will get the recognition you deserve. In Darkfall, your deeds and views are recorded and chronicled as you become a part of - and a shaper of - world history. With Darkfall?s narrative Legend system, your name will live in fame or in infamy, and it will never be forgotten. <<the narrative legend system is... where exactly? more lies? Top clans and top individual players from various gaming genres will be there, along with over ten thousand simultaneous players per world. You?re in very good company. << over ten thousand simultaneous (means the same as "concurrent") players per world... do NOT see this happening. if someone has factual links to this occurring, please provide them. i think this is more bullshit at this point. Test your mettle in Darkfall?s Arena Events where individual players and teams compete for fun and profit. << you do not build "teams" to siege. sieging is not competition for fun. where are these arena events? this is listed completely separately from other types of "pvp", so please do not attempt to mistake this with something OTHER than what it plainly states itself to be. Every single person involved in the production of Darkfall is a gamer first and foremost. We?ve been where you?ve been, and we play the games you play. <<< if this is true; then, why don't they build the game we want to play? We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game; a game that makes good on its promises, with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players. << total and complete bullshit. Darkfall offers you more ways to give feedback, and more ways to collaborate with the Darkfall Team in the evolution of the game. Your voice is heard loud and clear. <<i do not think these words mean what tasos and company think they mean.
they have recently updated the website, as a couple of dozen OTHER features, which were advertised for YEARS on the official site, have been removed...
so, does anyone have information on where/how to access all these advertised features? i mean, i could just be really stupid and unable to figure out how to access all these groovy features in (and out) of game. my clan and alliance can both be filled with idiots and unable to figure any of these items out. but, as a darkfall player, i truly am tired of people lying about what this game is supposed to have, and is not supposed to have. this is a truncated list, as they DID delete many features from the website, a couple of months AFTER the game was released into retail.
several items in the list above, i have seen numerous people on this forum, making contradictory statements about. for example, recently someone went on about "darkfall people have NEVER claimed to be able to handle 10,000 concurrent players, just 10,000 subs"... quite a few items listed above, have been routinely contradicted by people on this forum, and since no one can be bothered to read the official website and stop misquoting it -- i have quoted it for everyone.
again, please, if you have examples of the items which i believe are missing... provide them... thanks in advance to everyone for your efforts in this collaborative effort.
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Originally posted by shukes33
You are joking arent you? you want me to prove that little statement i just made? why? i am not going to trawl through old threads looking for them, that's just a sad thing for sad people to do. if you dont believe me, then ok dont! i dont really care Damian7. i recently apologised to you in a private post for being too harsh towards you...which i know you read as you answered it...but now i wonder why i apologised. Are you going to show me proof that gaming industries have been taken to a court of law and sued for not being feature complete at release? if not then same to you kiddo! Why you constantly like to attack people i dont know but seriously mate calm the hell down. why do you always have something to prove? EDIT: this is a forum, you dont need to PROVE anything!
no one has made those statements about other games - i'm calling you out on the statement. it's a false statement. use factual information to back your claims. i've only noticed these statements in regards to darkfall. don't come to the darkfall forums and make untruthful statements to support anything negative or positive, in regards to darkfall - we darkfall players are sick and tired of the lies on this forum. |
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Originally posted by javac
scam + false advertisement.
i have a product. i put up an official website with all the features of my product listed. i start selling my product sans 30 out of 40 features (means my product only has 10 of the features listed on my official website, which is tied directly to my product/company)... i am SELLING this product, while my site is advertising something entirely different. after a few months pass, i update my website slightly, now it only lists about 15 features not included in the product.
that is exactly what you have here with darkfall. you're expected to understand that false advertisement is ILLEGAL in the U.S.A.
i do not think 'scam' means what you think it means. by the by, false advertisement is illegal (i.e. against the LAW) here in the United States. just want to re-emphasize that point. you're obviously quite young. go ahead and try to make a claim, DF is sold in the US, so you can try, you won't get anywhere though. just turn on the tv right now, and watch how many products make bold, unsubstantiated claims. <<< name them please.
for one thing, you have ZERO to complain about before the product's release. <<so it's sold in the US, or it's not released in the US... can't be both. for another, there is a TONS of information out in the public domain that details the state of the game prior to release. to a reasonable person, the current web-site information is accurate for the game and well within the level of puff that is expected for advertising material. <<the website is slowly being updated. the game advertised on the official website had the name "darkfall" in common with the actual game that was released. stop lying.
you're just naive and trying to make drama, as usual. << interesting how you opened and closed your post with personal attacks. made a lot of statements, without backing ANY of them up. and then simply lied. wtf over.
is that why they're on the visa watchlist? cuz no one has been complaining to the BBB or filing any official complaints with popos? ouch, care to tell untruths to disprove that one as well?
and out of curiousity, since you act like you know a lot, even though you contradicted yourself while making the last post... is the game released to the US? or is it only released to euro types? is there an NA server, as in something physically over here, where actions can be taken? or is it considered to be elsewhere, or falls into that "offshore" category that can't be yet prosecuted?
come on now, since i don't know anything - please elaborate on the specifics in regards to actions that can be taken now... and actions that can be taken if they rent a server farm on US soil...
also, please elaborate on the apparent contradictions, untruths, mis-statements, and vague comments in your above post.
thanks in advance for your help.
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Originally posted by shukes33
proof or stfu. what games exactly? stop making blanket statements without qualifying them. |
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Originally posted by gruminator
what about taxes (was around 25% for companies in 2008), bills, vages and server rent? or is that free in DF happyland?
salaries, server farm rental, offices, insurance, utilities... you know, the normal stuff associated with running an online game and/or business. plus interest on loans (how long ago were those taken out?)
but when it all boils down to it -- no one is playing. why do people think that EVERYONE is waiting for an NA server to open? seriously, where's all the non-NA subs? where's all the people who should be WANTING to play on the EU server?
how much % of monthly subs IS going for overhead? if they have LOANS... what kind of interest are you talking? i mean, if someone wants to make it sound like darkfall is generating tons of cash... let's look at it realistically.
javac, what clan/alliance are you part of? i'm just curious... |
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Originally posted by Cristina1
that is what the op is about. asking who has seen the naval battles.
so, as far as large naval battles, or naval battles involving ships other than RAFTS... proof or stfu. cuz um, they don't happen. look at all the videos you're NOT seeing in this thread, along with all the people saying they don't happen, who play the game.
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Originally posted by SuperCrap
isn't everything, in the big scheme of things - a niche?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market |
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Originally posted by Moretrinkets
yes. |
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Originally posted by Cristina1
show me a game that doesnt meet all those points *rolleyes*
PS. welcome to online gaming.
or... you could give us a list of games that have the same (or worse) exploits and hacking in this ~$60 game that charges... $15.95/month?
oh wait, you don't ever reply to any of my posts, you pretend that they don't exist and ignore facts in favor of commotion. |
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from the op www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2662012#2662012
where are they now? where are the ardent darkfall supporters from just a few months ago... especially in regards to this naval issue? |
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Originally posted by SEANMCAD
in order to build ships, you need to build shipyards... does AV need to post that people will take over and build cities? do they need to post how long it'll be until shipyards are functioning? stop trolling.
i, personally, am sick and tired of this silly game of "someone said exactly this or that". lack of resources is NOT why ships aren't being built. people can fly off in your ship. people can steal your ship. people are just not wanting to spend all that time grinding, just for some wanker to come steal/hack the ship. lots of ships aren't around because of horrible game mechanics. your last line eliminates your post as an innocent question. troll elsewhere please.
go to the link. all the fanbois were up in arms (in feb.) that someone would DARE to doubt that those huge naval battles would NOT be an every day occurance.
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Originally posted by jimmyman99
Thnx for the update! How hard is it to make a map like that? Is it an in-game feature or do you have to manually enter town/clan/alliance names? Im very interested in hearing more on political geography in DF. Would it be too much to ask to update that map on a weekly basis? Thnx in advance
a guy in vindicators was making/updating those maps for a while. but it looks like vindicators have disbanded or something. there is a link on the official darkfall forum, someone else might pick up updating the map. |
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Originally posted by javac i don't think you know what scam means cause according to you every advertisement ever shown on US TV is a scam.
just like RL, you're expected to have some semblance of intelligence in discerning what is real and what's market-speak.
ps: darkfall rocks.
scam + false advertisement.
i have a product. i put up an official website with all the features of my product listed. i start selling my product sans 30 out of 40 features (means my product only has 10 of the features listed on my official website, which is tied directly to my product/company)... i am SELLING this product, while my site is advertising something entirely different. after a few months pass, i update my website slightly, now it only lists about 15 features not included in the product.
that is exactly what you have here with darkfall. you're expected to understand that false advertisement is ILLEGAL in the U.S.A.
i do not think 'scam' means what you think it means. by the by, false advertisement is illegal (i.e. against the LAW) here in the United States. just want to re-emphasize that point.
tl:dr version - stop trolling.
edit: i challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this account. please show me websites selling products, and the product listed is as radically different as the product purchased AS darkfall was when it started selling copies (that means darkfall still listed henchmen, pets, prestige classes, the REVOLUTIONARY chat and trade systems, which include sms to cells and being able to securely trade while out of game, actually trade/chat is STILL listed on the site... and all the other couple dozen+ features not in the game.)
reasonable people understand what marketing is... you are not allowed to falsely advertise in your marketing... why did you even type this silliness? you're making yourself look bad and not doing darkfall ANY favors... why? |
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Originally posted by Leethe
on a serious note - stop trolling. if you don't have anything to contribute to a topic, why post only trolling the thread?
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Originally posted by javac
um, there's like a dozen different sized ships created by shipbuilding in darkfall. no it is NOT like a titan. it's like being afraid to deploy carriers, dreads, moms AND titans. hell, plus a few more, since you see none of anything except the occasional raft. you don't even use ship building to create rafts. bad comparison for the titans. sorry. |
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um, a ship kinda blew up that city on the eastern coast of ruby.
and lots of people go fishing on rafts.
that's about it i think... |
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Here is what MASSIVE really means - 100 vs 100 battle with little lag
General Discussion « Darkfall 6/16/09 1:45:32 PM
Originally posted by WSIMike
If we're speaking of sieges in particular and not just PvP in general:
sieges...
EVE ONLINE.
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Originally posted by Orthedos
sell it to SOE and add it to their station pass. |
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Originally posted by mrw0lf
do you play darkfall? if not, point the fingers at yourself. i play darkfall. you actually have a problem with me commenting on a game I PLAY? seriously? |
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Originally posted by javac
um, weren't you on the "let's hang the blasphemer, ed zitron" bandwagon? ya know, how you guys researched him, his family, his ancestors, his work history for the past 3 decades +, what flavor of ice cream he likes, what his fave colour is, et cetera... so, shouldn't you review-critics also be doing that with this hispania group?
or, is it a complete double standard and the fanboi trolls ONLY raise a ruckus and research reviewers that give darkfall low ratings?
no, REALLY - i want to know why the double standard here. |
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