Yeah, AO needs more then the engine upgrade to save it. While the game IMO, is the best MMO out there, and while there is TONS of stuff to do in the game - It's to hard to figure out where to go for the content that is there - And a lot of the content in the core game has been made worthless by the expansions anyways. They need to overhaul Rubi-Ka itself and stop adding onto SL/AI stuff.

Originally posted by shadowhack
I am planning to download this game on the weekend and start playing! but ive been watching some videos and combat seems abit slow for the melee classes?
i am gonna be making a nanotechician so whats combat like for them, can anyone help me out here?

Originally posted by neschria

Originally posted by Mchart
So then why would I want to play everquest 2? I've allready played everquest. I dont want more everquest. Nor do I want to play anything similar to it.

I'm not bashing any games here, i'm simply stating the truth, as an outsider. I'm not interested in Everquest 2 at all, the fact that it even has everquest in it's name instantly signals to me that it will probably be a lot like everquest.

 

I do think it was a mistake on SOE's part to release a game so different from EQ1 and call it EQ2. They could have called it Legacy of Norrath or After The Shattering or Lucan Vs. Bayle: FIGHT! and it might not have been so shocking and disappointing off the bat to SOME people.

Originally posted by Crose

Originally posted by Mchart
The answer to the OP's question is simple. It's everquest. Just because *you* like the everquest gameplay style, does not mean that a large majority of the population does. It is an old, and tired gameplay style. Top that off with a bad release, and you get it's current state.

So -

A.) Why would people playing the original everquest want to leave for everquest 2, when they are allready playing they love.

B.) Whats the point of playing the sequel to everquest, when you could just go play everquest.

If people like the everquest gameplay style, then they will probably stick with everquest. Everquest 2 may be different, but it isn't any way shape or form groundbreaking.

It would be like releasing WoW 2. Why would anyone want to play WoW 2, when WoW is allready there, and its allready done that.


This is why I can't figure out why people play everquest clones, or WoW clones. Whats the point in for instance playing star wars galaxies, when you could go play WoW. Or whats the point in playing any large number of everquest clones, when you could just go play everquest.

The answer is simple really. Tired IP + Identical core gameplay + bad release = Low subscriber count.

Have you played both EQ and EQ2?  It sounds like you haven't...  Even if you ignore all the difference in game play, a game as old as EQ with dated graphics will die out, even if you continue content updates.  New players will look at screens and won't even bother trying it.

Honestly, I think you need to rethink what you just said.  The idea that there's no appeal to play newer MMO's over first gen games is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Rollotamasi

Originally posted by goalieman392
http://www.lucasarts.com/company/job/projld/job20070509.html

just think if a pre cu favored swg vet got that job... it says that that position is in charge of growing subscriber base... if they are hiring one, it implies that the former Sr. Director got fired.. hrmmm

anyways, does anyone here meet those requirements?

Yeah, that exactly what they need.  One of your ex SWG emo's to totally alienate the current player base.  I could just imagine your first post on the official forums.  "Attention current players.  You are all stupid because you like the game after the NGE.  Thank you"

Originally posted by Rydeson
SWG = pro grade?

How so, I would love an explanation for that one..

Are we talking about the original SWG,  the same game where people were explointed and ganked daily by using the TEF system? Yeah, that was fun..   People setting up houses to use them as walls to a base, where the militia and mayor can gank anyone they want?  The forced PvP destroyed this game.. It was a game that was quickly exploited by a few, at the expense of others..   I for one was tired of the spam of,  " I pwned you".. in open chat..

The problem was that hardcore players , normally kids loved TEF ganking  for shits and giggles..  OH.. there is an Overt, lets shoot him, OOOOOOOPS, he has 19 covert buddies.. FUN.......... NOT..  Because ganking was causing people lost time and equipment due to death, chased many away from the game..  Tell me camping cloning centers wasn't happening..

SWG was a game wtih great potential.. However as the game aged, exploitations were found and customers were chased away.. You call that "pro grade"... I call that immaturity ..

Anytime a company  designs a game that allows one customer to force another customer to quit, will surely be SMALL in numbers and ultimately dead.. Some people may like PvP, however to force people into PvP  will surely set you up to die.. It was my experience that PvPer's DIDN'T want to fight with other PvPer's but wanted to use their PvP combat template to gank NON combat types..

OH.. btw....... WHAT IS SO PRO GRADE about doing macros?   Shit.. I saw everyone macro'ing thru the game.. rather it was combat or not.. LOL 

Originally posted by rp2006

I'm also playing the 14 vets trial and enjoying the game a lot, so I guess its a matter of taste.

I simply started a new toon as I knew my former Pistoller/smuggler would be even more broke now then when I left (and it was very broken back then (2004), so I started a smugler in the new game and I'm enjoying it a lot.

Some like yelow and others like blue

Originally posted by SWGLover

Asking this question in the "SWG Veterans Refuge" is a mistake - there are plenty of us long term vets that still play and love the game, but  this is the area that the forum gave to the chronic complainers that are mad that their uber, unbalanced Jedi was brought into line with the rest of the characters.

 

It's a great game and it's on the up swing again with a rising population and nice addition features.

 

Of course the haters will be posting about all that they *think* is wrong with the game - the trouble being that most of them haven't played it in years.   

Try the two week free trial and decide for yourself .

Originally posted by Cobane

Yes it is worth playing !! Come to bria server I will help ya. I just reactivated my account. Alot of people everywhere. You can see alot of community members are back and restarting there vendors and stores. Which means people are gearing up for combat. the game is coming back and people that are forward thinking allready know this.

The NGE happened for a reason. The NGE has seen alot of patches and this newest version has alot of people reactivating old accounts. Server merges  are coming once people have a chance to clear out there house and player cities. THe game will come back mark my words. I am running vista and nvidia 8800 gtx direct x 10 full shadows ang game looks better than anything.