Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Caldrin

The thing is most of those games sucked pretty bad at some point in their history or are getting old..

 

So the ones that started off bad .. like AOC they could never recover the playerbase so in the end to get more people in they had to go f2p..

Others like EQ2/LOTRO/Pirates/COH/COV/DDO are getting old and find it hard to get new players in as well.. so f2p was a good option..

 

the others probally just sucked and never really had enough subs to keep going without doing some kind of cash shop and f2p model..

 

Any of the real good MMORPGs that have enough subs to keep going probally will never go f2p.

 

So far that pretty much seems to mean only WOW then.

Not true there is some F2P functioality to wow now. The fact is F2P is starting to become mainstream now. with the sucsess of games like DDO & LotRO once they went F2P it is clear that the developers make more money from F2P then they do from subscriptions because people are willing to buy points/credits once they realy get into a game. Even the CEO of CCP has noticed this.

Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by allegria

If you think the reviews that are released today were NOT signed off on by bioWare, well... That was my point. However most likely we won't know the real deal until a bit after release anyway.

yeah, I'm sure that they're all working for bioware, probably got paid lots of money to only release positive reviews.

(I'm being very sarcastic!)

Actualy they are not. They only have limited acess to the beta so that they don't know more then BWA wants them to know.

Originally posted by mrxennon

Problem with joining a guild that insists on having teamspeak or ventrillo or whatever, is your not allowed to get a word in due to the same 2 -4 people speaking constantly and dont want to listen to anbody elses views or comments in-game.  Those 2 -4 people are always right and everone else is wrong attitudes.

You have the same issue with text chat. BTW at least on TS and Vent you can mute them if you get annoyed.

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Proson

This is the reason im playing Vanguard atm. It has the best commuinity i have ever experienced! Might not be the biggest community, but everyone here are so nice and helpfull, the guild i am in has alot of casual people, some who do raiding too and the high levels always helps us lowbies with dungeons etc.

 

Should check it out if you want a game with good community! :>

 

Vanguard is a good game, but the months after launch left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.  I've thought about going back, but with the game on life support, most of the Dev's re asigned or gone, and SOE allocating very few resources to the game, I can't really see the point. I suspect its not going to be that long before SOE cuts their losses and pulls the plug.  Its too bad, as it had the potential to be a great game. 

SOE owns it so it will most likely go F2P before shutdown. We will just have to wait and see.

Originally posted by randmp

Is it me or is the website still down from this morning?

It should be back online in just under five hours from now unless they found a reason to keep it down longer then the stated 24 hours.

Originally posted by ZoeMcCloskey

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by keithian

There are a lot of evil forum posters here, so I expect nothing less than 3/4 choosing Empire lol.

Hah! Jokes on you, I chose Empire!

Same here, so only 40% will be part of the evil Republic :)

Actualy the poll is not factual. The majority of the players either don't know about this site or advoid it like the plague due to the community reputation here. I will start as an Imp but will be playing both sides because Trooper is awesome. Yes I am a beta tester and no I will not break NDA to give info so don't ask. :)

the Borg naturaly!

Empire lol :p

Originally posted by Cotswold

Agree 100% with Bradywine being the highest... also one of the least social.  I'm sure that's just from people grouping with their kinship and not needing to find a PUG. 

Full disclosure... Brandywine is my 2nd server and I mostly solo there with my 2 characters not in a kin.  The largest bonus of the high pop. being the very low prices on the auction.

No its from you not knowing where to go for a PUG. Brandywine being the oldest and most highly populated of all the servers has a community created chat channel we use for PUG's as well as most of the global socialization.

Originally posted by Biggus99

I believe Brandywine is the highest pop server.  Landroval is very busy as well.  Both of those always have plenty of people playing.

Yes Brandywine is and for good reason it was the first server. Arwen would have had that honor but when the game went to closed beta Arwen the Alpha server was set to internal only .

Originally posted by thatguyzp

I feel more insulted by the "Digital Deluxe" edition, $79.99, really???

Yes, let me pay $20 more for 5 useless in-game items.

I thought they were gonna use the "Digital Deluxe" edition to sway people to pre-order directly from Origin/EA by offering an incentive to do so (but still being $60), too bad, guess I'll pre-order a physical copy from Amazon.

pre-orders from gamestop get a color changeing crystal. http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/star-wars-the-old-republic-online/88761

Every game Cryptic makes is crap. Even Jack emmert knows that! http://www.vg247.com/2010/08/24/neverwinter-humble-emmert-admits-need-for-cryptic-to-dramatically-improve/

Originally posted by Kooshdin

I too am not going to invest in SWTOR either for the reasons you give. Also im pretty sure it was lucases interference with SWG that caused the problems in the first place. I might be wrong but either way im not buying SWTIOR because i know pre cu SWG owns SWTOR from what weve seen and heard so far. SWTOR is going to be a theme park mmo swith lots and lots of dialogue to follow.

 

Not my cup of tea sorry :)

I know it was Lucas. Thats all they do is screw things up. After all it was LA that made SOE take almost every meantion of spice & the sith out of SWG. It was that idiot Nancy Mcintyre that was one of those who said swg players didn't want to be uncle owen which turned out to be a false statement on LA & SOE's end. TOR is going down the same road.

Over the past decade I have tested over 100 games mostly beta, but I have also done some alpha testing and not just with MMO's.

I do it because I love to help find bugs & glitches in the game so that my fellow gamers get a better experiance in the game at launch.

I was an alpha tester for lord of the rings online shadows of angmar. My favorite glitch was the hole in the floor of Gondomon. It was fixed shortly after closd beta 1 started. Anyways when LotRO launched it was bug free and already had it's first content update on launch day thanks to me and my fellow testers.

More developers need to use veteran testers like us! Experiance matters!

Originally posted by Tardcore

 

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

Good little write up there. I think the main problem at this site and others, and heck out in the real world as well, is that people can't seem to grasp that an opinion is not a fact. If you disagree with a persons opinion of something, that does not mean they are wrong, it just means you disagree with them. And while you have every right to disagree with them you do not have the right to tell them what they should or should not think or feel.

On the topic of DCUO I played the beta and felt it was a fun game, but not something that can hold my attention for any period of time.

On DCUO I would value your opinion on one question. Given their talent, money, and experiance with MMOs do you feel that DCUO in its current state is the best game that SOE could have produced?

 

 Nope SOE could have used the money and resources to better their exsisting games which have been suffering. Games like Planetside, Vanguard, and of course SWG. The fact is SOE cant keep those games up to par yet they continue to expand EQ and EQ2 and introduce new games into the market. If they wont expand the meantioned games it would serve best if they made them F2P instead of just dragging them along with subscriptions.

well I have two WoW accounts my main account has been hacked 3 times since creation. This third time I created a new email account and changed my password and it helps. The hackers are clearly getting in through blizzards systems. The last time I actualy called and talked to someone at blizzard support. The person I talked to told me the person that hacked my account had a chinese ip adress so you know where that was headed. Even though I changed my email adress I still check my original one and a daily basis I still get emails marked as blizzard or battle.net. This is signs that blizzard is the weak link.

In order for the hackers to know my email address to send those emails and even know I had a WoW account they had to have gotten my information via blizzards own database at some point otherwise if I had a virus or a key logger on my PC the hacker would have know the minute I changed my email and password. The fact is Blizzard is too afraid to admit their own weakness. The customer support issue , plus the way they deal with the victoms will eventual cause issues for blizzard. The funny thing is since Blizz is in with Activision you would think their customer relations and support would improve.

Originally posted by Karble

Lucky for me there are several categories.

Best payed would be RIFTS

Best free to play would be Guildwars 2

Worst of the AAA crowd will undoubtedly be the Star Wars one due to over-hype, only so many ways you can package a game like this. It should have stuck with the client based star wars FPS style conquest games and not this blown up mess.

Terra will appeal to fans of anime and other cultural games. Fact is, even if they do anything to make it more western it still has the anime look and feel to it.

I predict WoW will lose 1/3 of it's subscriber base to Rifts, Guildwars 2, Terra, and the new Comic MMO.

 

 I highly doubt that. that has been said many times yet it hasn't happened yet. Why? Because anyone can play wow.

Originally posted by warchant

I loved SWG immensely at release. It was just "WOW!!!!". So sandbox, such great mechanics imo, great combat and crafting.

 

Has anyone ever addressed the potential for classic servers? 

 SOE has stated they will never bring back pre-cu servers so it is a dead subject.

yes I would as long as it isn't a lame version of the ftp system like EQ2.

I bet vanguard. As for warhammer online it basicly is f2p since they implemented their never ending trial. http://www.warhammeronline.com/pressreleases/20091106.php

It doesn't surprise me. NCSoft has a bad track record when it come to continueing games. Look at Tabula Rasa it was a good game but they ended it. Instead of working on auto assualt they shut it down. So them shuting down a popular game comes as no surprise to me.