Originally posted by Zlayer77

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=294210

Lots of other threads but I think this one just shows that the mayority is either leaving.. on the fence or just to blind to see what is going on...

 

Yeah..... again as others have pointed out, it's not the majority, you'd need close on a million different posters agreeing for that to be the case.

People are leaving, thats undeniable, but every new release mmorpg has the same attrition a few months after release.

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Where does this information come from about the server status change? A link would be nice because loads of servers were still registering heavy at primetime last week.

As for sales dropping, well yeah, obviously they will drop shortly after release, thats the same for pretty much every game ever made.

Warhammer never had anything like the number of players TOR has and every single new release mmorpg has an initial peak of players which in every case drops after the first two months, thats just the way mmorpgs work these days.

Pretty simple really, i hit 50.

At 50....there is nothing to do except grind boring buggy pve flashpoints or pvp.....which is boring as WZ's only have 3 maps which i have already played ad-nauseum and Ilum is owned by Imperials who outnumber Republic players by a buttload on my quiet, slowly dying server. Last time i went to ilum, 3 rep players, about 30 imps sat farming any rep player dumb enough to enter.

Replay value is very limited, the other class storylines are quite cool, but everything else is simply redoing all the crap quests i have already done once before or more warzones till my eyes bleed.

I think a huge amount of players will quit once the hit 50 and realise there is nothing to do. Personally im still playing alts for a while but ill unsub soon and wait for them to fix the problems with population imbalance, pvp bugs, add a few new warzones and when they add new and interresting lvl 50 content.

Originally posted by Airwren

Originally posted by thamighty213

1.1.0c Patch Notes - 1/28/2012

General

• • Improved service to reduce the number of player disconnections to the character selection screen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So a 5 hr + downtime at peak EU times and also affecting many US players play shedules for THAT,  pray tell me why that couldnt wait till tuesday.

I'd almost be willing to bet $100 that when this comes back up they will have fucked up something that they supposedly 'fixed' from the last patch.  I love how they post fixes for things but don't actually fix the problem.  The inability to cancel quests out of your quest log is a perfect example.  My money will be on the screen flickering bullshit coming back.  Anyone else on side bets of what they break? lmao

Going on past screwups, Illum....again ;)

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by Zinzan

They have really humped the pooch with this one, pissed off the US and EU and still haven't given any explanation for the patch thats screwing with everyones night/morning.

Disabling the forum was such a bad move as well, but thats what happens when you have official forums, they can gag anyone they want whenever they wish.

 

 

They have given a reason.

 

Its to patch numerous exploits introduced to OPS with Tuesdays patch.

 

I dont like the fact its a Saturday morning which is the one day my folks have my children and my main peaceful playtime BUT if it nips a exploit or 5 in the bud before it is abused rampantly by the community, I fully support it.

Yeah....i can smell your trousers burning....

Originally posted by thamighty213

1.1.0c Patch Notes - 1/28/2012

General

• • Improved service to reduce the number of player disconnections to the character selection screen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So a 5 hr + downtime at peak EU times and also affecting many US players play shedules for THAT,  pray tell me why that couldnt wait till tuesday.

I lol'd, no wonder they didn't tell anyone why they had the servers down so long, could you imagine the drama? :)

The Force > The Bible

I laughed my ass off when i watched that, so no homosexuality exists in the galaxy far, far away?

Im simply going to say Goran Beviin....the EU can't be wrong Bioware and 3 years before your announcement we met Goran, a homosexual Mandalorian. He's there in the enclyclopedia for all to see.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Goran_Beviin 

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Shivam

Originally posted by Mellkor

 

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Originally posted by evianwater
I don't know if I should be angry at EA or Bioware...because as much as Bioware's name is all over the game, it was EA's pressure to get the game out that got us an incomplete game. 

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Oh i'm sure the fans and supporters were innocent in that too? 

 

Yeah it is also fans fault. Don't leave anyone, get the am all with your hate..no one shall escape.

*rolls eyes*

It is not hate, it is frustration. It is prime gaming time in Europe and we can't play the game which we both paid for and paying monthly fee for. This is just a slap in the face to all European players.

As others have already said, it's as much the lack of any notice and information as the actual downtime.

If they are fixing a critical bug they should tell us, im sure most players would understand that. No communication and suspending the forum really is a bad way to go.

But your right, EU players are getting sick of getting the shaft, being treated like second class customers is unwise and it's creating a "them and us" feeling on the forums.

Originally posted by Rasputin

Originally posted by Zinzan

Im amazed people still have the balls to quote X-Fire as representative of the entire community of a game, it's representative of X-fire users (which speaks volumes in itself), thats all.

 

I will quote myself:

"You have been able to read every single failure so far in the X-Fire graph."

 

I have been around long enough to see the furious denials and the subsequent crawling back, admitting the truth. I can not name a single MMO failure, that could not have been predicted by reading x-fire.

Can you?

Your making claims your "evidence" cannot support, thats all.

I'm not disputing trends, im disputing your interpretation of skewed, non-representative and disproportional data as solid fact.

The evidence of the falling population is the server numbers, subs figures, these are undisputable facts. X-Fire is a trend among X-Fire users...thats it.

You also need to understand that just because few X-Fire users play a game, does not make it a "failure" as again you would have us believe. Plenty of games with low X-Fire users are doing fine, just becuase a small minority clique of players don't play a game does not make it a failure.

Your own X-Fire numbers show ~50k players on SWG....out of about a million....thats no more than 5%...how can that be representative?

Im amazed people still have the balls to quote X-Fire as representative of the entire community of a game, it's representative of X-fire users (which speaks volumes in itself), thats all.

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by Zinzan

They have really humped the pooch with this one, pissed off the US and EU and still haven't given any explanation for the patch thats screwing with everyones night/morning.

Disabling the forum was such a bad move as well, but thats what happens when you have official forums, they can gag anyone they want whenever they wish.

 

 

They have given a reason.

 

Its to patch numerous exploits introduced to OPS with Tuesdays patch.

 

I dont like the fact its a Saturday morning which is the one day my folks have my children and my main peaceful playtime BUT if it nips a exploit or 5 in the bud before it is abused rampantly by the community, I fully support it.

I suppose you have source for this, because I haven't been able to find anything about this down time expect for this ambiguous:

We are working on getting a patch deployed to address various issues and we expect it to deploy in the early hours of the morning tomorrow (CST) and take no longer than four hours.

If your right then i'd not have an issue, but i also can't find any information on this patch and the forums are disabled....

It's systemic of a far bigger problem, pvp is garbage in SWTOR, it's just a horror show. Most people only pvp for the quests and the gear, if they had a choice, i'll bet illum and the warzones would be empty as none of it is enjoyable in the least.

My enjoyment for datacrons is finding them, i avidly avoid the walkthroughs while playing through a planet and see how many i can find on my own and get on my own. The amusing thing is after i find them all on a planet (or get pissed off trying to find the last one which is in some obscure spot you can't see or completely off the grid) i do check out how others have done them and often the "walkthroughs" are utter garbage and there are far easier ways to get to them.

Hint, duelling is a great way to get to datacrons, grab a buddy and time your knockbacks/grapples and other abilities, it's fun :)

But yes, datacrons are a nice easter-egg type content.

It'll be out soon, people will predict it'll be the "wow killer", it won't be as it's just another WoW clone, it'll fail miserably, it'll wind up F2P like all the other generic cookie-cutter mmorpg's and will then fall into the obscurity bin with all the other overhyped failures barely scraping by.

They have really humped the pooch with this one, pissed off the US and EU and still haven't given any explanation for the patch thats screwing with everyones night/morning.

Disabling the forum was such a bad move as well, but thats what happens when you have official forums, they can gag anyone they want whenever they wish.

However, on a brighter note, at least the US peeps can now appreciate the horrors we EU players have to endure with constant primetime downtimes :)

Threads like this make me laugh loud and hard.

Datacron farming? You not supposed to farm them, they are supposed to be easter-egg type goodies. I am always on the lookout for them when playing, it adds to my enjoyment and when i spot one and eventually figure out how to get to it, the sense of accomplishment is all the more for me.

Just because some people go straight to youtube to find a walkthrough doesn't mean we all do.

I was crap at jumping initially too, now im really good and can scale pipes really fast, probably because im focussed on the jump im making more than the website showing me where everyoen else jumps from.

Also FYI, i have watched groups of people trying to take rediculous routes to datacrons, presumably they are following guides, often there is a much simpler route.

My plan on hitting 50 is to go back and find the ones i missed and im looking forward to seeing areas of the planets i haven't seen yet from the safe comfort of a lvl 50 :)

Originally posted by Nihilist

Its happenning. No option to cancel at least with firefox.

 

A work around is adding /cancel to the end of the URL.

Just checked and i can see a cancel option, im not cancelling so won't be testing the button, but it's definitely there for me :)

Originally posted by channel84

Hi rez debacle, illium exploit, founder title and now this? This is really putting me off my plan to try out ToR in the near future. I don't see how they can focus on rolling out content with major PR and dmg control going off every week. Of all the issue, this have got to be the lowest a mmo can go to retain sub.

Add massive lag and latency issues, server/client sync fubarred, clunky UI, UI delays, crafting being utterly pointless unless you plan on raiding your ass off, pointless pvp, boring warzones, lack of warzone maps, boring open world pvp, pointless open world pvp, massive population imbalance, very limited replay value (amazingly it's true, try levelling a third character, apart from the storyline it's all filler as you have done everything else already twice, it's a shocking grind).

There are many more gripes with this game but i can't be bothered to list them all.

Originally posted by Benthon

Someone in my guild went from Valor Rank 22 to Valor Rank 85 in 32 minutes from turret exploiting right after the patch came out.

Real fair.

Utter garbage.

Originally posted by Xasapis

I only seen one guy so far using a speed hack (he made it rather obvious I suppose). It made for a really short huttball match, him capturing all 6 balls in less than a min.

Which of course never happened. The ball would have respawned before he could get back and there is always someone camping the respawn.