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Originally posted by Aldaron

Originally posted by gnomexxx
Yeah, right. 

A Libertarian being in party, lowering your taxes, doing away with big government federal programs, and giving the rights to make personal decisions back to the people would collapse the nation.

Explain yourself on that one. 


Lowering your taxes: It's rumored that the national debt is actually closer to 50,000,000,000,000 instead of 9 trill, and the way they skewer the accounting to what lowers it so much is ignoring the obligation of social security that they will have to end up paying to the future retiree's that are paying social security at this point in time.

So let's say you obliterate all income tax - which a true libertarian would do - What then? You have 8-10 trillion noticed debt to pay off, and 40 trillion obligated debt.

Cut off social security, and tell everyone to take a hike? But yet the government for the past 60 or so years has promised a national, governmentally funded, retirement savings plan - Even to the extent of later making it mandatory to pay up!

So then you infuriate countless people; "We're not receiving our social security! We earned this! We paid for this!" Another group saying, "We've been paying social security for decade(s), promising that we'll get a return when we are retired."

And then of course if you're a libertarian you're taking away welfare as well, so you have another group on your hands. They aren't working, they aren't getting paid...uh oh. I sense a mob.

So what do you do? Utterly piss off social security payers and receivers - not to mention "ex" welfare receivers - to the highest extent; risking - almost assuring - riots and violent upheavals over the money the government of yesteryear promised them?

But then what about the other debt owed to corporations and other nations? Going to tell them to pike off and suck it up, because the nation isn't making the inflow of cash it needs to, to delay judgment on the promised debts?

I mean hey, I'm all for some of the things a Libertarian stands for - although a bit of their policies is too anarchist for my tastes - I just know that Libertarian changes while our nation is in the shape it is, would create a snowball effect that would topple empires.


I'm sorry that you have bought into the idea that the government is the answer to everything.  I'm sorry you bought into the idea that they should even be a factor in our lives.

I invite you to go to the Libertarian Party's website.  All the concerns you have are addressed there.  You need to have more faith in the American promise of freedom and liberty.  It works.  It worked perfectly until government started bloating into a controlling menace.

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Taken from: The Liberatarian Party Website - www.lp.org

The Libertarian Party: Working to slash your taxes!


The Libertarian Party is working every day to cut your taxes. By contrast, professional politicians from the other parties just want more of your money, and are busy increasing the size of government.

In the last few decades, the federal government has exploded in size. No area of your life or business is free from the meddling of politicians -- especially your wallet.

It doesn't have to be that way. With less government and lower taxes, you could keep more of what you earn. It would be easier to start new businesses, build new homes, and fuel stronger economic growth.

Just Defend Our Rights

Libertarians believe that if government's role were limited to protecting our lives, rights and property, then America would prosper and thrive as never before. Then the federal government could concentrate on protecting our Constitutional rights and defending us from foreign attack. A federal government that did only those two things, could do them better and at a small fraction of the cost.

How Can We Cut Taxes?

Instead of tending to the basics, government has grown into a bloated conglomerate of political services that gets larger every year -- with no end in sight.

For example, politicians spend millions of dollars to urge people not to smoke -- while spending more millions to subsidize tobacco farmers. They send billions overseas for foreign aid -- while the federal deficit swells. They spend millions to subsidize public art -- while working families struggle to pay their taxes.

Politicians also run trains, bail out savings and loans, construct houses, sell insurance, print books, and build basketball courts -- you name it! But the fact is, every service supplied by the government can be provided better and cheaper by private business.

Privatize And Cut Taxes

All over the world, governments are busy selling airlines, power plants, housing, and factories to private owners. Where inefficient government bureaucrats lost money and squandered tax dollars, hard-working private owners now make profits and create new jobs. Why can't we do the same thing in America?

Defend America: Cut Taxes

Military expenses are over $250 billion a year! A large percentage of this is spent overseas to defend wealthy countries like Germany and Japan -- who then wallop us in international trade. Let's take them off military welfare. We can defend America better and save at least $100 billion a year in taxes.

Stop Bailing Out Industry

No one has the right to cover his losses at taxpayer expense -- and yet wealthy corporations demand exactly that. The federal government has bailed out railroads, banks, and other corporations with your tax dollars. This must stop!

Replace Welfare: Cut Taxes

The bulk of your welfare tax dollars goes to pay the handsome salaries of well-educated welfare workers. The poor get little from government welfare except meager handouts and a cycle of despair. Let's get government out of the charity business. Private charities and groups do a better and more efficient job of helping the truly needy get back on their feet.

Why An Income Tax?

Before 1913, federal income taxes were rare and short-lived. America became the most prosperous nation on earth. The U.S. Government did not try to police the world or play "nanny" to everyone from cradle to grave. People took responsibility for themselves, their families, and their communities. That is how the founders of America thought it should be. And it worked. It can again!

It's Time For Action

Republican and Democratic politicians have refused to reduce the size or cost of government. So we need your help to build a powerful new political party to get the job done -- the Libertarian Party! If you agree, please use the attached form to join the Libertarian Party or to request more information.


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