They listened to their whiners that PUG'd too much in DAoC. You then end up with Warhammer Online , idiot ,simple dumbed down RVR.

I hope Mythic realises this and goes back to making decent RVR(pvp) games,...Warhammer Online is not a decent RVR game..

Originally posted by ZsasZ

One of the biggest problems with PUGs is the lack of communication. You've got a group of strangers thrown together, and are expected to act as a cohesive unit. If you've ever seen the movie Cube, you know how that can end.  So what can you do about it? COmmunicate! Once you get into the group, introduce yourself, identify your role and objective. Call out specific loot you're interested in (it may not do much good, but it can't hurt). From personal experience, once you do this others will too, and the PUG ends up working a lot better.

 

Good luck!

This game was built for PUG'ers. Do not expect much. The system does not reward better strategy from friends on vent either unlike DAoC did.

Just another Item mall game.

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awful game, worst ever Item mall.

This game gets old ,nothing changes as you lvl except having to kill alot more of the same crap over ,over and over again.

Originally posted by dark-merlin

We have been receiving reports on the main Fora' that GMs are taking care of business and at least 3-4 people have already been banned.

 

Now most companies would post this on the main Newspage and state they will keep the game clean, give out the names of banned players etc.

 

AV does not even show us the various patches in which they actualy introduce new content (like coordinates on map for party) that were not ingame and just show up the next day

 

My point is: Stfu about it already with the hacks and aimbots and other "OMFG SKY IS FALLING" theories....AV is doing what they said they would and they are not kidding around, cheating is NOT TOLERATED

Proof? We are to just take their word for it?

If they are deleting reviews and legitment complaint threads on their forum ,why should we believe them? Not counting the lies and empty promises from Talos?

http://www.fileplanet.com/196879/190000/fileinfo/Darkfall-Online-Pre-Order-Client

Originally posted by Saben001

I believe MMORPG.com should change the status of this game back to in development as it has not truely released yet.

My arguments:

I can not purchase the game. Therefore is it truely released?

 

There is no official announcement anywhere about it being released on the official website.

 

Having less then 20k people playing sounds more like a Beta or trial then a release to me.

 

Only 1 server. How can a game release with such little hardware?

 

No customer service or support that I can find.

 

Prove to me without a doubt that this game is avaible to the public! I can find no method to purchase this game. I have yet to see any website or brick and mortar store selling this game.

The developers claimed its a release and its been known for quite some time and the NDA was lifted long ago.

Go cry AV a river elsewhere!

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Originally posted by charlesf

anybody interested in a sync aimbot?

This will enable binding multiple clients (archers) for clan wars.....

we are currently working on data xchange between clients, bypassing the DF server, since there is no encryption....

.

You should pwn your punctuation and english first.

Wait, you already have!

Originally posted by Carl132p

Originally posted by Aramanu

Well they have a real-time monitor program running, perhaps that will pick up the cheats, infact i wouldn't put it past them to have some kind of sniffer program that looks at your hard drive to see whats on there.

then again all you need is a competant GM team.

 

Ok so Aventurine blows in all aspects of being a business AND you suggest a sniffer program? NOTHING pisses of PC people more than anything lookin at whats on their computer  Darkfall would fail immediately if that was implemented.

You guys are not getting the point.

All they need to do is encrypt their outbound packets and encrypt the end user's client return packets. If anyone was to alter or mess with the client side encryption code it SHOULD render the client uncompatible with current version. It is simple really!

This would stop alot of the issues except afk macro'ing. 

This does not violate any laws as the only file on the end users HD that would be monitored is the AV file, the one they own.

Originally posted by altairzq

"could" is the word. That means macros are in.

About hacks... we will have to see.

the have no way of monitoring the client.

Their packets are not encrypted either.

You folks hoping and thinking cheats will be stopped are in some serious denial.

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AV has no way to even detect cheats and exploits.
 
This game and it's PVP will get no respect in the genre.
 
have fun being apart of nothing!

Originally posted by Zolden

I've played the many great startup mmo's that created all of this on day one and onward until they were ruined. I dropped out of mmo news due to time constraints, but recently wanted to recall my past and get into a 'different' kind of mmo.

The past few weeks I decided to check out Darkfall and find some information on it. Unfortunately I decided to check mmorpg's forums for views and writeups on the game's progress over the past few weeks. There has been 90% retardation on these forums and 10% information. 

It is clear what has happened in the mmo industry for fans: there are the diluted and the hopeful. There are those of us who remember back when EQ1 released and it was the most magnificent, sophisticated incredible game on the market, and so forth with successive MMO's. It seems that over time and with the release of the cookie cutter mmo template there have been only two outlooks, and this is where you all are crying fanboi or troll. When people say "everquest" (mind you in a negative manner) for graphics and gameplay I think that the game is more appealing. 

Is it so wrong to be hopeful for the idea behind Darkfall? I feel that 75% of the people on this forum have been the diluted. They probably don't understand the idea behind something different and completely new. Everquest, AC, DAoC were all run stupidly at their beginning, and Everquest began the graphical mmorpg genre. Even if the launch is shit, even if the CS is oblivious, and even if it seems like the future is dismal, there is potential. The diluted have become used to the shit such as WoW and other mmos, as long as they stable they are happy. I doubt 80% of the posters here remember MUDS or the horrible service from the very first mmo's on release, and there was something to that. Even if the service is shit at the beginning it means nothing towards the final game. 

I look forward to news on Darkfall in six months if I don't have the time to actually buy it and play (I know, I can't buy it right now because it's too hardcore). If it survives the "honeymoon" phase it could last as long as Shadowbane has, which is still going - anyone remember that release and initial gameplay? 

 

 

I know that my post is too long for most of the forumgoers intellect on this forum, so I'll say this in short: you are all retarded if you can't relax, sit back and watch and read news on the game. Take a chance and have some hope, and perhaps the game will become as addicting and fun as being an idiot on these forums is to you. It certainly seems like 90% of the people, haters or fans, would be happy killing everyone and looting their shit.

 

LOL troll

 

"Is it wrong to be hopeful for the idea of Darkfall"

Not if you only paying for just the idea. Seems to me a alot people paid for just the idea and not getting anything else.  

Originally posted by dave6660

He lost me after this...

"For everyone else, I think this game is simply not for you as it most likely will be too difficult to understand the mechanics, the "What do I do now" feeling, and the general frustration of learning something of this magnitude."

We're still talking about a video game right?  Do you have to be card carrying member of Mensa to fully comprehend Darkfall?

Yeah ,its difficult to understand broken mechanics and the bugs with it.

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by gnlLucid

 Awesome, you posted a thread that was posted during pre-pre-order-closed-beta about macroing.

 I don't even know what the garble of a sentence means. You obviously are butt hurt that Darkfall did indeed launch and is a tremendous amount of fun.

It's ok though,  you can go back to your EQ clone where your loot doesn't drop and you can safely do the same raid 30 times for a piece of loot.

Your professor must be proud.

 Considering I have an A- in the class so far, I'm sure he is.

 

Darkfall! May the best macroer win!

Too bad macroers are being dealt with, both by Aventurine and by us, the players.

 

You are a fanboi for some game that has failed.....

When will you pack it up and just leave?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mortal-online-beta-leak-gameplay/144115201136095155/?icid=VIDURVENT02

This will have hardcore PVP: Looks alot better than DF and has a nicer budget. Not 5 years in the making either!

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by gnlLucid

Still in closed beta.

 

Don't you get bored of posting this same crap?

Guess not. Go "pew pew" someone in a single player game, while I kill some players in the launched game of Darkfall.

Launched mess of Darkfall?

Originally posted by Kasmos

Since I have an 8 page paper due in 11 hours, this will be short and sweet.

Earlier today I had great the experience. Running east towards the human starting areas, where I was planning on taking down some lower skilled players to gain their arrows and gold from goblins they would be farming, and in the silence of night I hear a "chop, chop, chop" to the northeast, way in the distance.

As usual, I head towards the sound of players, always looking for a kill to quench my thirst for blood. As I travel towards the direction of the sound, it gets louder... louder... and louder... I pull out my two hander and crouch, slowly approaching my prey. I use the cover of darkness to my advantage, moving from tree to tree, bush to bush, rock to rock, to ensure my prey does not notice my movements. Eventually I reach him: a naked orc logging a tree for lumber. I charge forward, but as I get close I notice he isn't even afraid of me or getting prepared for battle!

I get right in front of him and laugh, I know exactly what he is doing: farming lumber with a macro. I kill him quickly and take his loot. Quite a success and a great opportunity to supply my guild's crafters with quite the killing of crafting supplies.

 

Moral of the story? You can as of now macro in Darkfall, but because of FFA PvP, you're bound to get screwed in the end.

I'm glad you killed the afk macro'r. Macros are least of my concerns. From what I gather from factual sources are : dupes ,speedhacks and many other exploits are the real issues.

Nice job though on killing the euro afk bot though.

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by Shard101

 

Not enough money for a free stress test?  I have heard it all now.

 

 

There are 2 main reasons they didn't do a stress test and do not kid yourself about it.

1) Their crap code and hardware(even the website) can't handle the pre-order folks that are suppose to be playing in the game .

2) Why open a big stress test to the masses when you don't want out on the forums how crappy things are at release?(even censoring their boards flava, I.e removing bad posts, reviews and disgruntled buyersand their opinions)

i don't understand 1, what does that have to do with stress testing?

and on 2, they were going to have a stress test now anyway, payed or unpayed, it wouldn't change the reception. O.o (well actually it would be more positive if it was part of the beta and it wasn't part of the release). If you really think about it, the only reason that this is happening b/c lack of money (because they couldn't go on with a beta without some income, or its because they in fact (stupidly) assumed they didn't need a stress test, but only planned to release 1 server on launch b/c they lacked the money to buy more, either way, its due to lack of money). Just b/c I show a small hint of positivism towards DF doesn't make me a fanboi genius

Lack of money is not an good excuse. if they lacked money then they needed free publicity and open the game up right before release. Most would have suffered through and if Adventurine was had any sense or skill ,they could fix the major issues and the mass would end up giving them benfit of the doubt and thus when things smoothed out , they would have people paying for upgrades. I'm sure some investor would have given them the hardware they needed if enough eyes got into the game and seen its potential.

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by tentimes

I would like to buy the game having following it for several years, but anytime I read about it I just see rabid abuse by fanbois for anyone that wants to give it a go. I might be wrong, but I think it's the only game I have followed that you can't actually buy.

Do you think it will go on general sale or is it still just clans that got in to beta that can play it?

Thanks,

TT

 

 

It's too hardcore for you, n00b!  If you weren't in-game on the first day [and in beta] then you can't be a legend.  You are just pwn food for the FACTORS in the game.  Try next month, we'll be waiting for you.  Har Har Har.

 

p.s.  Hopefully they raise the price to $100 so we FACTORS can ride this game off the backs of the newb food.  Chum. 

It's a hardcore, you are right.

DarkFall Online is a hardcore failure.

What PVP? some guys still paying to beta test a failed game with someone got rolled in PVP?  The MMO community does not even recognise your achievement and probaly never will. At best, they will remember some fanbois killed each others pixels in some failed game called Darkfail online.

Originally posted by rageagainst

need to cut in here: the demand isn't 250k people, a lot of th 350k are inactive accs/fake accs. But there IS a large demand, don't kid yourself here. For TRYING the game the number is ATLEAST 50k, I can't make any firm statements for any number above 50k, but it IS ATLEAST 50k, if you've ever popped your head in the forum, or even this forum, you'd know. Note, after DF closed their forum down the number of mmorpg.com accs rose from 900k to 1mil.

 

The amount of people in game is MUCH higher than the beta (since they are having all these issues), and its probably close to the maximimum amount for a server. The thing that is happening now is a payed beta test, to stress test the server and fix the remaining bugs, when the game was nearing release I was wondering why the game was releasing this early and without a stress test, but now i have the answer, they didn't have enough money to do a free stress test, so they had a payed one.

Not enough money for a free stress test?  I have heard it all now.

There are 2 main reasons they didn't do a stress test and do not kid yourself about it.

1) Their crap code and hardware(even the website) can't handle the pre-order folks that are suppose to be playing in the game .

2) Why open a big stress test to the masses when you don't want out on the forums how crappy things are at release?(even censoring their boards flava, I.e removing bad posts, reviews and disgruntled buyersand their opinions)