Originally posted by dontadow

Originally posted by gestalt11

Studio 38 has closed down Big Huge Game despite KOA:Reocking selling more than what EA projected (they had two DLCs as well).

 

http://gamebanshee.com/news/108254-38-studios-shutting-down-big-huge-games.html

 

The leaked screenshots for copernicus look alot like KOA:Reckoning.

That 1.2 million sold number must be their number, because every other report says they sold less than 400k .  The fact that they had dlc was a credence to game makers making dlc as they make the game.  

   You need to do some actual research if you think otherwise the xbox version sold over 400k by itself check Vg chartz yourself not to mention Curt and EA both said what it sold.

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

forget....you have the "GW2 effect"  and dont have any money for monthly fee games. xDD

 Fixed it for you.

Originally posted by castamir11

Well, I can't post on the WoW forums because my account is expired, so I'll ask here.  A friend of mine recently returned to WoW, and says that 25 man raids are basically dead because you can get nearly as good loot from the looking for raid tool.  He says that guilds are now basically just chat groups.  I'm sure that there are still some people doing the 25 man raids, but for the most part, are they really dead?

    Not true reallhy about the LFR tool.You can get decent gear in the twilight heroics,valor vendor,and a few from LFR but it is still subpar to the regular 10 and 25 man I think LFR gear caps at 384 Ivl and I know the 10-25 mans are higher than that though not sure as I quit the raiding after they went from 40 mans to 25

 Pretty sure  they have already made there goal with Diablo3.Mists is pretty much a given regardless when you got 10 million subs if even 5m of those buy the expansion thats still alot of money and more than it is costing them to develop it.Now if  Activision/Virendi start to lose more money imo all you would see is them having blizzard pump out a few more pets,mounts for WoW cash shop and/or something for Diablo3.They won't cut back on anything Blizzard does simply due to the fact the amount of cash they haul into them on a monthly basis.

   There is still no mmogs coming out that is really gonna hurt WoW long term.I am sure alot will buy GW2 but since it is B2P people will pick it up and soon as MOP expansion comes out they will purchase it and more than likely keep there WoW sub active the entire time anyway.

Originally posted by Otille

Yeah the writer shows references to many games movies and books. The writer of the game is Ragnar Tornquist and his 2 products The Longest Journey and Dreamfall are quite popular and well cherished by his fans.

http://www.gamespot.com/the-longest-journey/reviews/the-longest-journey-review-2594178/

http://pc.ign.com/articles/160/160848p1.html

 He also wrote the Anarchy Online book-Prophet without honor as well as being the guy who was at the helm when Failcom released  Anarchy Online on us  and won the crown of worse mmo launch and still wears the crown.Funny I was diggin for some info about him and found a old interview with him before AoC came out and TSW was in its early stages

PCG - With Conan coming soon, and The Secret World in development, what lessons have you learned from the last few years of Anarchy Online?

Ragnar - Ship a finished game! Make sure it is not broken. So People people can actually log in pay.

  lmao we will see the state of this when it ships  obviously they didn't learn much givin how Conan shipped.

Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by rznkain

Originally posted by nolic1

Originally posted by RedKatana

Guild Wars 2 = fail fans who hate on Tera cause can't play their game even though they had to pay FULL PRICE for a shitty beta and become experiment pets for stress test and whatnot.

DO want some cheese with that whine I mean you sound like a kid whinning cause there being picked on. Its a game that it not what they say. It is a semi action combat game true action combat does not stop you from doing what ever such as dodging blocking and moving all at once. Also it does not stop you when trying to do a combat move not casting a spell that a little more understanding needing to stand still for. But using a skill should not stop you from moving.

  Or you Gw2 fanbois can go back on GW2 forums and stop spouting off like tards all over every other game forum.We get it you l ike Gw2 most of us could give a crap less about it go post with the other fanbois  on that games forums.

I can't help but feel like it's the TERA fans, at least in this thread, that are the ones being hostile. For instance, read the red part.

   Nope not hostile at all just sick and tired of almost every mmog thread about any game other than GW2 that a Gw2 fanbois have to come on and hijack the threads talking about it.

Originally posted by nolic1

Originally posted by RedKatana

Guild Wars 2 = fail fans who hate on Tera cause can't play their game even though they had to pay FULL PRICE for a shitty beta and become experiment pets for stress test and whatnot.

DO want some cheese with that whine I mean you sound like a kid whinning cause there being picked on. Its a game that it not what they say. It is a semi action combat game true action combat does not stop you from doing what ever such as dodging blocking and moving all at once. Also it does not stop you when trying to do a combat move not casting a spell that a little more understanding needing to stand still for. But using a skill should not stop you from moving.

  Or you Gw2 fanbois can go back on GW2 forums and stop spouting off like tards all over every other game forum.We get it you l ike Gw2 most of us could give a crap less about it go post with the other fanbois  on that games forums.

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Originally posted by elocke

Not sure why you included that.  GW2, rofl, the combat is more tactical then Tera and questing isn't hub to hub, it's free form and flows with the world and exploration is ten times a factor.  Tera is like MMO for babies in comparison.  

Wrong again, elocke.  You should really try to have an idea what you are talking about before you just start blurting out nonsense.  Saying GW2's combat is more tactical than TERA's is one of the most misinformed things I've read recently.  

Played both and no, I disagree.  I had a tougher time with GW2 combat than Tera.  Tera is very simplistic.  The only tactic you need to learn is how to dodge at the right time.  In GW2 I had to learn to dodge, learn which spell to use when, learn to swap weapons when and this would vary from mob to mob.

Now, you may like Tera combat more than GW2, but GW2 has ten times more depth to it's combat than Tera and it's bland get a new skill rank every 2 level mediocre try at depth.

      I  have played both as well and your full of it only diff is you have let your starry eyes of GW2 fanboisnm cloud your mind tera's combat kicks the crap out of Gw2

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

PVE only sandboxers

   I wouild go with the pvp douchebaggers who's only happiness and self worth in life seems to be trying to force everyone else into pvp or ganking them.Also the people who play mmogs and think  game companies should force other players to group with them non stop its like being put in a room with the nerdiest kids in school and being forced to talk and be friends with them.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Cursedsei

Haven't played this game, but I'll say this.

 

It's Funcom. That is practically a 99.99% guarantee this game is going to suck plague-infested gonads for the first year or so because of horrid game design decisions and moronic devs/leads stuffing their thumbs up their arses and fingers in the cookie jar while it all falls apart.

Then finally they'll bring in someone (probably Mr. Morrison), whose finally going to turn the damn thing around to a point where you can call it playable.

 

It happened with Anarchy Online, it happened with Age of Conan, so it's likely it'll happen here.

Uhhh..... this is getting old man!  The guy who was in charge of development for both Anarchy Online and Age of Conan no longer works for Funcom.... hell he finally got the message that the game industry isn't suited for him, so he is now working outside the gaming industry!

The Secret World has been in development for many many years (long before development on AoC began) and had and still has a completely different person in charge! A person that actually created and launched succesful games before.

  Sorry to say this but your wrong about Gaute devloping AO he didn't he did the one expansion pack for AO shadowlands which did suck but AO was a buggy piece of junk at launch and that wasn't due to Gaute.

   And this guy you talk about btw who you think is the succesful game dev tell me what games? He did the backstory and alot of the stuff on AO as well as funcoms other games Longest Journey which were single player puzzle games kinda like Myst.There weren't commercially sucessful.

Originally posted by borkenvideo

So we find out new tidbits today about the Diablo 3 Auction House and fee structure.

Two interesting new facts get released to us.

1. The max you can sell any item for is $250.00

More stupidness, if your account goes over $250.00 battle funds, you have to cash it out if you want to do more transactions..

Thus, forcing you to pay fee's and get tracked, and whatnot, and mostly not be able to play any sort of Foriegn Exchange games.

2. 100,000,000,000 gold is the most you can sell at a time.

I guess this means that 100,000,000,000 gold = $250 right now... Kinda sad.

 

More problems, 15% to sell it, and 15% to cash it out.. Means, I think most people will be dealing outside this RMAH system that is suppose to stop people from going outside and getting scammed.. Great job Blizzard, you say one thing and do another...Sorry no way can I justify 15% cash out... I'm a bit peev'd at these announcements today... Nothing this system does is for us, its all been a sham. The only winners here is Blizzard. Because they will force it outside and probably ban and clean up outside forces to keep the economy in check for their internal gains.... So much for the player... Last minute bs explained to cover their asses, trying to sneak it by us lol.

 

   Who cares you or me or anyone else who is a normal player isn't gonna make a dime to begin with give it a week or 2 and the asians will be in a pricing war with each other and selling stuff for 2 cents

 Having played Ao for 5 years from release up to those 5 years and then Aoc Ias well as having some friends who work.worked for Failcom I can tell you straight up Failcom's buisness model is to cash grab as fast as they can right out of the gate then worry about patching it whenever they really do not care about keeping alot of subs long term that much is obvious from both AO and AoC.Failcom has already had some great ideas and innovations there is no denying that.The issue is they rarely can pull them off or by the time they do they have killed there fan base for the game.

    I won't be buying TSW nor even trying it I don't care if it is great because of how much they lie and cheat there customers I cannot put my money into there pockets ever again.They had ppl beta test there monstors kid mmo under the promise of TSW beta access and lied about it and didn't give them out pretty much told us tough luck and that was that.I will no longer support a bunch of crooks like Failcom is.

Originally posted by Xasapis

Well, Darkfall is probably the first true action mmorpg (well, or DDO if we ignore the presence of tab targetting), followed by other UO derivatives. Still, I think Tera is the first that has some actual class balance, a really good game engine and decent developers to back the game up.

As for its market share in the East, you have to keep in mind that:

1. It's a lot more competitive market than the west
2. Aion is godly there, while not so much in he west. So doing good (or bad) in the Asian market is no indication of success or failure in the western market.

^^ What he said.I am not a fan of asian mmo in general so when I hear it is not doing well in the east I actually take more notice of it.I bought Aion on release date couldn't manage to stay interested in it for a week .Jury is still out on Tera for me but I will say it has already entertained me more than Aion,Lineage2,.and pretty much every other asian mmo I have tried or played.

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

Originally posted by spikers14

Originally posted by StevenDFont

Currently i'm a lvl 27 Sorc, and I am in love...

 

The level 35 dungeon looks insanely hard, so I can't wait to have a go at that!

As a level 35 Sorc I can tell you, you will start to shine in SM. You've been on the weak side for awhile now, but starting to gain in power.

One thing I really love about the Sorc is you start to feel more powerful as you get higher in level. You start out weak and the game feels "slow" (as another poster put it)...Not sure if other classes play the same way, but its keeping me looking forward to lvl 60. 

Edit: Spelling. Melted two sentences together and it did not go well at all...

I feel pretty strong on my sorc at level 20.  Problem is it's Elin, which is an advantage because elin are the fastest, but it's also disturbing to a degree with the whole panty showing preteen thing lol.

Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by gervaise1

The key for me is company's like EA muddying the water regarding what a 'proper' beta is.

SWTOR: the release date was cast in stone before the "stress test" - not that they had had a major beta test. And afterwards they patted themselves on the back for not having as many problems as they expected - despite the fact that the game has a launch date that was just weeks away.

ANet have not announced a release date.

Now whether ANet will take what they learn from this weekend - and probably others remains to be seem

However - like Blizzard - they have said they will not launch until ready and have a good reputation for launching slick products. What they are doing now is what they did for GW1 essentially and we know how that worked out.

 

Like I said it remains to be seen what they do but based on what they have said they deserve, imo, a chance.

 

I work for a banking software company. I can tell you this right here and now.

This......all this that is going on right now.....is absolutely in no way shape or form a "proper" beta.

This is just more hype and marketing.

Nah, it's a beta.

Yeah, becuase Arena Net is patiently awauiting all the solid input from all these high quality beta testers who know how to identify issues, document the steps that produced the problem, and all that right? 99.9% of the people playing the game right now are testing all the aspects of playability to determine exactly where the game breaks down right? No one is in there to satisfy their own curiosity and needs  and get a head start on the new "IT game?

You can lawyer your way around it all you want.

 

It's a beta.

 

They are bug fixing. They are testing for server stress. They are asking for feedback about balance.

 

Get over it. It's a beta.

 No it is a paid preview  your not a beta tester no matter how much you wanna convince yourself of that.You purchased to get into the game early to look and play it  your a customer.Same can be said about the ppl in WoW expansion beta and pretty much all so called beta's now.When you cross the line of charging people to so called "test" game.

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by sleepr27

Originally posted by Mannish
No TERA is not the next big thing. I dont think we will ever see a next big thing again really. TERA is the best mmo of 2012 though.

Have to agree, it's the best MMO of 2012. Even though it's not my favorite.

Well we have to wait for TSW beta to see if it flops as hard as GW2 did.

 

Forgot all about TSW. I dont think it will flop nearly as hard as GW2.

 Oh ye of lil faith of Failcom.All you have to do is look at there track record and history and know TSW is gonna be fail regardless it will be like all there other mmogs full of some cool features and alot of hyped up broken promises that never see the light of day or by the time they do get in the game not many are left playing that actually care.

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by RebelScum99

A lot of spin control going on these days.  I guess when you spend so much time on other forums trumping this game up to be the messiah, while talking down about every other game on the market, you need to convince yourself that you haven't been doing it all in vain.  

My favrorite part of this is the "just a beta" excuse.  Sorry, but I don't recall any recent games failing a stress test this miserably, particularly for a game that's been beta tested for quite a while now already.  Stress tests shouldn't be this bad.  So far, this game is making SWTOR and its shitty hero engine look like  well-oiled machine in terms of optimization, since they didn't have anywhere near the issues that GW2 has had.

 

 

Actually, WoW had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM AT LAUNCH.

There were thousands of people who could not connect, I was one of them, it was some network issue. Much like what we are seeing with GW2.

I was one of those people at WoW launch, and I kept crashing and getting network errors. I couldnt play the game for a month, waiting for them to fix it.

So basically, you are completly wrong, and inexperienced when it comes to MMOs.

Re-read my post.  I said RECENT games.  You're comparing this to a game that was released in 2004.  That should tell you something.  

 

Ya, it tells me your desperate. I saw TERA had much smoother beta, but the players left after just a couple hours, because they were bored to death.

So I guess your point is pretty much....pointless

   I wouldn't call that true.I pre-ordered Tera.Gw2 on the other hand I got so sick of hearing you fanbois sing its praises I didn't and won't even bother to purchase it til it is on bargain bin special on stream 3 months after its released.

Originally posted by zimboy69

wondring why the views here are always mostly bad cause everone else is playing it

 

it is  one hell of a game  ive now played diablo beta and gw2 beta

 

and gw2 wins by miles

 

infact the only reason im here is cause  i cant log in as the servers are full 

 

you will see monday  when these forums explode

 

 

    Well that makes alot of sense compared a mmog to diablo3.Glad GW2 actually beats something.I never liked Gw1 I thought it was junk.I haven't played this and doubt I will so I am impartial about it mostly wanted to come here and see what the Gw2 fanbois were saying as they have spammed other mmog forums for months now talking about how super duper this game was gonna be and the WoW killer it was destined to be.I see now atleast that isn't true

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Seriously?! Don't you think Funcom learned from their mistakes? I am sure that FC knows that they failed big time with AoC's launch. But, FC has turned that game around and has made it one of the best on the market now. That's good enough for me to pre-order from them.

  Seriously do you forget about there other game which many say was the worst mmog launch in history Anarchy-Online? If you think funcom has learned anything your seriously mistaken,.Funcom has and always will be about the release cash grab they don't worry about long term profits all they do is try to get ppl interested enough they will buy into there hype machine plain and simple.The company has ZERO integrity.They did a thing about a year ago for there kid mmo pets vs monstors promising anyone who would log on on a weekend during a set time and make lvl 15 would get beta access for TSW.Me and 4 friends went in and did just that.They never did credit our account and when all of us emailed them about itt with proof we had did it they replied back to each of us with a pretty much too bad for you we aren't gonna fix it.

   Sorry but this crook company will never see a dime of my money ever again.I spent 5.5 years in AO through all there expansions other than there last.All of them were broken or full of false promises they released the Alien Invasion expansion advertising player markets right on the box and they didn't even get it into the game until NINE months after they sold the expansion to us.