as a f2p no matter how much you spend in their item shop, you will never have access to the siege, you will always have half of bag space and bank space..  plus there is a unremovable gold cap of 2g.  

basically they are forcing you to stay pure f2p or sub.

lol been waiting for years for fury to come out.. then it was p2p... when they launch at f2p model.. i notice that my system could not run it T_T...well still can't =P

if there weren't so much mindless grind i might consider play this..

if stats really make character build exist.. i might consider try again...

if there are some skill in pvp other then press 3 attack key, 1 jump keyp, 1 running key and 2 potion key.. i would enjoy it XD

T_T i was hoping the fourth faction to be something new.. but noooooooo~~~~ it is just a faction with no unique skill T_T

so sad T_T

aim for rank here is like doing drug.. once you start it you can't stop  XD

thats why i rather have my freedom =)

lol yea this game is a killer!!  i have seen a few laugh to death in the past two days... lol

what i mean is the content.. the graphic the style.. the race war.. the pvp.. all those are advance when wow first release.  true l2 have done large piece map.. but not as big compare with wow.  well.. personally i don't really like wow neither.. but i must say wow have done something no other company have done before when they first release..........

well back in UO's age every little things may count.. but as time pass by it get harder and harder to become a legend on game history.. there are many new game just been release like requiem, sho online....etc  these are good game too..  well aion might be a guild war clone.. but i don't think it will reach such a high rating sinse they have not able to do anything new..   well.. guild war is nice, isn't it ?  XD

mostly not.. 

uo is a legend because it is the first powerful mmo..

wow is a legend because they done something no one can do at the time..(large one piece map, skill, class, labor skill)

true.. aion is not bad.. but nor do they much much things thats really new to us.  yea.. flying system is cool.. but there are many game with that element..(eg. perfect world).  well atleast personally i have not found not even one element thats only exist in aion....(including the npc race, there are game which have had done that long ago)

also there is guild base system... hiring soldier.. and fight along the guild war  =)  remind me might and magic XD

it is a good game.. but not everyone would stay for longer enough to see the real content..

this game is about war.. between player and npc.. guild can hire soldier to fight war.. and player can become king/queen and own an entire city...  

serious it take not much longer then 5 minute to get to level 10...and you told me you felt boring already??? lol  great..

it is rather simple.. not in any game you can try all of the game content at level 1.. level 50 take no more then one day..

btw.. i do agree the things about pvp.. in CB i have been trying to pvp with someone.. but you know if both player are noob/expert in control.. no one ever get to kill anyone else  XD

Originally posted by zguillotine

I find the above two posts interesting. Allow me to illustrate what I mean.

An RPG is where the PLAYER role plays the character that he is playing. This means that the PLAYER decides on his/her course of action and plays the character as he/she feels the character would react in a given situation. This does NOT mean that some game developer decides how you must react, but rather, you decide. That is role playing.

As for options in 9Dragons, there are 6 clan and 4 classes for each clan as well as Vagabond. So, that means 25 different types of characters in general. It really comes down to only 5 different types (tank, healer, nuker, hybrid) with variations based on which of the 6 clans you join. BTW, the extra one above is the Vagabond.

An example would be the healer. With the exception of Sacred Flowers and Brotherhood of Thieves, the healer is a fist/glove wielder. Each of them, however, uses the specific Kung Fu of their clan. So the look of their attacks is different. I am reminded of the Drunken style of the League of Beggars. it is most definitely different from say the Shaolin. Now I mentioned the SF and BoT clans as not being fist users because the SF (Sacred Flowers) secondary clan weapon is the dagger and the BoT (Thieves) secondary weapon is the Axe. So, depending on how you look at it, there are 3-6 different healers available (3 by weapon, 6 by clan). None of this takes into account the build you use on your healer. I have seen and heard of 3 different builds as well. There are the Group Healer, the Solo Healer and the Nuker Healer.

In conclusion, there is a lot of OPPORTUNITY for role play or for non-role play and all of it is at the player's discresion. So, if you think there is no opportunity for role play, you need to rethink what you are doing, not what the game is doing.

-=zguillotine=-

serious.. have you ever try this game?  i mean yea true there are different clan.. and for every clan there is 3 class...

thats all true.. but serious do you see any different between these clan? i mean other then kung fu look and title... serious they are exact the samething with different title and graphic...

also.. for every class there is two skill root.. true but.. those two skill root is also the same in function different in look...

for character build.. yea you can go pure if you want.. but serious.. if you doing anything other then what they plan for you.. you will never able to play this game...  pretty sad.. but truth T_T

well 9dragon is a game for kid.. who only care how things look like.. it is a bread color in white and a bread color in black.. they both taste the same.. but the color is different.. personally i don't call that role play. 

btw.. if you never try it.. please go give a try.. if you already try it... am sorry for ya...

i must admit you are really easy to be satistify..lol  for game play i would rate the game 3/10 due to poor customization... and stupid class system

yea it is a good game indeed. i was there during the CB.. the pet system are unique and cool..

just that.. to fly you have to pay a fee that growing like mad as your level up....

btw.. have anything change sinse i left?

the last news webzen publish is about two years ago... kinda hopeless...

Originally posted by lilsi

Number 1, I clearly didn't state what my build was, and I did not use wrath skills in my archer hybrid, so don't assume things.


You played to level 70 like you said, you know getting to that level takes over a year, so your ranting just contradicts  your actions. Also, Warriors get the strongest skill in the game, Panther strike yah. But that would not be able to kill a skillful mage or archer.  Have you forgot pots as well? Archers and mages kite other players in PVP, panther strike is their only way of winning, which means sacrificing their own HP yes? Well, holy long does the cool down take, and when you run out of SP, how long does it take to get more to cast again.. every second you waste we will heal, and continue the fast DPS.


Also with pets, yah they lose intimacy every death.. But how long does it take to level once! When your leveling your pet NEVER DIES! and in that time you can gain over 20 INTIMACY! What what you said is also stupid, plus in 3rd stage, they can tank bosses alone, because their HP is not low.


You saying HP is the game is also laughable, the thing thats wins you wars is your defense, thats why mages have it harder, but they finish the job quicker, so why worry.


Also, you said hybrid archers are worse then pure... thats the worse line I've heard.. everyone knows that pure archers are the weakest in the game.. You need axe skills, its a have to, no question about it. Thats why I know you have small experience in game, your just speaking with no back bone.

Back onto summoners... hybrids are their only choice or their a useless class, hybriding with archer is a stupid move, but you've probably done it haven't you? They mix with other magic classes, and they level their skills slower, they only need to hit certain barriers on the way. First one is to get a mummy, so spam your skill.. low cast speed or not, it doesn't matter with your macro. Warrior hybrid is just your stupid failed attempt, probably why you quit. It's not a bad build, but at higher levels you lack all damage.

Plus, the strongest archer on the Jap server was a magic archer who wore vestment... He had hardly any defense.. then why was he the best PVPer in the server? Was that because of the spammibility and burst damage? NO FUCCKING WAY!

Shush noob.

serious how old are you?  don't you know that warrior/archer have skill that stop target from casting anything?  also ..yea it is true there are potion.. but how many potion can you carry with vestment?  and do you think it is same thing with 3k hp and 1k hp???  warrior have 2400 hp more then archer/mage when max out.... which means they mostly won't die, and don't youknow that in war.. you get buff... like earth's heal over time.    

well i serious doubt that you ever level anywhere near 70.  i see you neither an axe archer or sword archer.. which was a dumb ways... because weapon skill only take effect when you have such weapon in hand. which also means 1 atk per level/8 acc every 10 level take no effect on your bow. all you get is buff.. 15% defence/10cri hit when max out for axe.  64 heal over time/15% more attack speed for sword...  and don't bull shit me that you wear heavy armor.  when heavy armor your shooting time will be greatly reduce...

ok for axe acher- you are not suppose to get hit by mosnter.. which means 15% defence means almost nothing.. 10 cri hit .. thats good.. but still you lose more then you gain

sword archer- 15% more aspd.. thats great.. but how fast you can get.. although bow weapon have speed 4.. but think it through bow is still two hand weapon.. you can't equip two bow can you???? lol

mage archer - you won't be able to cast, or you die in few hit..

pure build- which is the best... but rather boring....

i never said it take a year to get to level 70. infact you could reach level 40 in one day.. but after that there will a major pain on skills..  yea it is ture you could use hybird.. but hybird are never as good as pure.  for melee archer hybird you need to attack low level monster to gain melee weapon skill.. for mage archer hybird you will need to cast over and over again... and for mage archer build- if you don't have curse and vestment it will take you atless 6X more time to level up the skill.  well i don't see why you like this game so much.. serious i already quit the game within first month.. i have also check out CB of this game in some other country i must admit what you guys playing here in north america is the worst version i ever seen.

well.. have fun if you fullfill with what you have.. and stop replying.....i don't like to reply you. but you sound like someone of very young age.. i hope you still realize these are still games..  in this game hybird is not an option to me.. thats my openion.. if you have different thought you could make another post and talk about your thought....  btw in japanese server have you ever seen anyone with summon death? it is the level 74 summoner skill... serious there is only one person dumb enough to get summoner over 74 on taiwan server.. then thats the end for summoner on all chinese server....XD

i don't know how japanese felt.. but these summon pet are only use to show up and taken picture with on chinese server....

Originally posted by lilsi

You speak like you know it all, but I also played the Japenese version of Angels Love level 84 HYBRID ARCHER!

Hybrid archers are the strongest in the game at level 70+, but you wouldn't know that with your closed mind and obtuse experience.

Summons are weak, and you can only beat bosses 20 levels under your level, yes... But thats if your around level 40-50, level 60+ summoners start to top the charts for magic users and even surpass chaos.. I for one think that a swordie hybrid with summon is a stupid idea, but Wrath is one of the best hybrid classes to chose from because they only gain, not lose. I'm rep you for doing your studying.. yah, on my level 84 I have level 60-70 skills... you only need to level up the skills you want.. I had axe skills on my hybrid archer at level 6 till I was level 40. Why would we waste our time.. Plus everyone has a macro to auto spam their skills at night, or at school.


Their pets become so dangerous at higher levels, since you think your so smart, you must know the pet I am talking about.. and at higher levels no body has a pet with less then 80 intimacy, and walks around with food. You buy food when your pets int is at 5, and you only carry 1 cookie just in case.. you don't waste your weight on foolish stuff on that.. but you wouldn't know that because you haven't experienced anything have you?


You would know that summoners, and axe/summoner hybrids are essential to totem defense in wars.. but wait.. seems you don't know that also..


Please shut the hell up about levels 100+ if you have no experience over 30.


Thank you, I don't want to see your noob face in game.

 

don't you know that warrior have sp range skill? don't you know that with full charge an warrior can kill any archer/mage without hp skill in 3~4 hit? ... totem war.. yea not like you can live through the ifrst few second. hp is the most important thing in this game, because it decide potion can enough time to heal you or not.

also hybird archer as i said before your summon pet walk slow..  which never get to hit much. and as a skill mage with teleport/ archer with good movement monster shouldn't be able to touch you anywayz.  if you still need pet to help then i must admit you are nothing bug a noob...

also.. are you fool?  how you pet lose intimacy? from death.. how you get it? 10 min per point with 80% full... but once your pet die yout still lose intimacy.. not like you are cash shop that could increase it anytime in few second.... pet are only meant to help level up, unless you are a cash shop...

you tell me you play in japanese version have an level 74 hybird archer.  well archer could be build with vestment sinse they are long range, but at same time they lose their pvp ability... yea mdef is good too.. but your normal attack have chance to break spell when you are high as 74 it will be something very constant.. archer are mage killer...(unless you are a dumb@ss who give up the skill....) 

i must say...japanese are all dumb...  or you are just lying...true hybird archer is a good pve hybird in this game, but it is still not as good as "pure" build.   and no worry you won't see me in that game.. and beta testing some other games right now.   

well.. my word are here.. if you don't like it.. you don't have to listen or read.  no body are forcing you to do anything.  now stop wasting my time... if you like to know something go post your own thread and ask.

p.s. if you planning to tell me summon vampire is partly long range attack.. then you can shut up

p.s. a good skillful archer/mage player should be possible to kill any boss at their level or higher without long range skill.  (some of the boss have only aoe)  both mage and archer have skill which delay monster's movement. and the game AI is dumb.. you could lead it to place that it never able to get out on it own...lol   i must say you are neither are mad man or a child..   getting to level 8X in this game.. you are not serious.. i collect data from chinese server. also from wiki they have data about skill. if you want you can go check out.  many of the things you can check out form video they post.   am not like you. because i play something i will make sure it is a fair game, and it is something that worth playing.  

you may spend rest of your game on that game if you like it is your own choice.. now shut up please

lol i must be out of my mind.. god damn it.. why should i even reply this post...   well thats about it.. am not wasting my time in this crap game.. if you like it. i hope you do enjoy.. now stoping asking anything.. because i will not answer. if you want to know try out yourself

Originally posted by lilsi

You are obviously a noob.. It's not hard to stand still and spam skills.. everyone does it, even if your pure build or not... you will still stand and spam your skills.. Also, I know you are a noob because you think you stick with a skeleton forever... you get mummies later on and they are very powerful... stronger then you of course, then on top of that you'll have your own pet which will also be stronger then you.. so..  whats the problem then?

 

 

Summoner classes have it hard vs bosses, but if you are a higher level then the boss, then summoner classes usually just keep summoning their pet when it dies to tank the boss. Quick and easy... Plus the cast time doesn't matter because you don't need to cast those spells hasty, it wouldn't change a thing.

...lol  how long have you been testing?   have you ever exam the skill exp talbe they use?... tell you what for now with totally max level 100.  if you have curse and vestment it take you around 1 month from level 98 to 99(for skill spam 24 hours)

and if you don't have curse it will take you 3 month X 24 hours... and if you have light armor it will take you 6~7 month if you have heavy armor it wuill take you almost 10 month..well this is just an example.(you will need potion when you spam skill and you do need meditate for max mp...XD)

for summon skill.. yea true you could spam it.. but how long do you willing to leave your character afk? for level 40- it won't take much of time.. maximum a week or so.. but what about higher level?  serious why you even think they have double exp card designed in cash shop? if you don't use hyibird even you do use 2X exp card you sitll manage to keep up the skills to current level.   it is for higher level it starting getting nasty and you won't be able to keep your level around your skill level no matter how hard you spam it.  if you check out chinese server you would notice many level 99 character with level 7X skill... and they do spam skill overnight... XD

yea true you can own pet.. but pet is for cash shop only.. you need cash shop item else you have to spend most of your weight on pet food. you need cash shop item to make sure your pet dosen't run away after death.    lol.. do you really dare to use pet in boss fight????  (i mean if you don't use cash shop item)

summoner the same.. also all skill have hidden feature which are important.. like sp light number, cir hit, overall defence in %.  lol   if you look skill carefully you will notice that change anything will only lead to your failure.   also how much could those poet do?  i mean even you are a warrior..... when you are higher their damage is like nothing. their hp are not anything higher then same level mosnter neither.. so pain transfer is just a laugh for all warrior type.  serious how much do you defence againist monster at your level?

can you summon another pet if current die in a fight?  with heavy armor and no curse skill? lol i don't think so.. well it is your choice to have first 40 easy level... or to have pain on the @ss when you higher..  all your choice..

btw.. summoner fight boss? so they don't fight at all just let pet fight?  they pick on boss 20 level below them?  try your summon pet on monster of same level. tell you what.. your summon pet have lower atk and high hp compare with monster at same level. and it will never win a monster at same level without healing.. you can test this if you don't believe.  also if you can kill the boss with summon monster.. you could kill it much more faster if you don't use it. because your damage is always higher then your summon pet damage. and  your ride do increase your moving speed.. which keep boss always distance from you. 

p.s. i hope you do wake up from your childish dream..  in this game hybird = suck.. and thats the equation..... 

p.s. if you have time go check other server.. see how many people ever get summon death(level 7x final summoner pet)...lol summoner = junk this is something everyone know... well maybe not you