Originally posted by Cavadus

Originally posted by Broomy

 I logged into Earthrise last week.  If you saw my original post on this thread you would know that my last log in was recent.  AFTER the patch.  I lagged, the chat lagged, the environment lagged, the abilities lagged.  Wanna question my rig? its pretty tight with plenty of mem and I can play (thus far) anything on it at decent settings.  But that's OK, keep spreading the untruth.  When people spend their money on that steaming pile, experience the lag, they will know who to flame. 

There's obviously something wrong on your end or your internet connection is less than optimal.  I have not experienced any significant lag in well over a month, if not longer.

I don't know what to tell you.  No one in my guild has complained about lag since late February.  Servers are stable and fast.  Maybe you need to check your firewall or something.

 MmmmmKay...Please review the two post above, made right after your claim of NO Lag.  I guess all of us have bad internet connections and/or firewall issues. 

Originally posted by Cavadus

Originally posted by Broomy

 

I really don't have much more to say about it.  But I will say this:  And this is to you Adun: stop telling people there is no lag in the game.  That's a ballfaced lie.

...except it's not a lie.  I experience almost zero lag at any given time in any given location.  The only time lag starts to crop up is when I get into a battle with 8+ players in it because ER's netcode eats such an incredible amount of bandwidth.

I'm sorry but it's you who are lying.  If you think the game is laggy you obviously haven't played it in well over a month as almost all of the lag and server stability issues were cleared up in mid-March.

Honestly, it sounds like you played the game for about a week in February and then called it quits.  Your information and on the game is grossly out of date.

I want to be clear: servers are 100% stable and lag is quite good currently.  Maybe you should log into the game for an hour or so and see for yourself.

 I logged into Earthrise last week.  If you saw my original post on this thread you would know that my last log in was recent.  AFTER the patch.  I lagged, the chat lagged, the environment lagged, the abilities lagged.  Wanna question my rig? its pretty tight with plenty of mem and I can play (thus far) anything on it at decent settings.  But that's OK, keep spreading the untruth.  When people spend their money on that steaming pile, experience the lag, they will know who to flame. 

Originally posted by 2can

Originally posted by Broomy

So in closing I say to all prospective buyers of ER:  don't waste your money as I did.  The game has serious issues with lag, mechanics and has no direction.  If you have money to burn and need your scifi MMO fix your better off going to EVE or (and Im serious) Anarchy Online.  Both of these games have helpful communities (EVE is rather elitists but they know their stuff), in depth game mechanics (builds, market, crafting) and no elves. 

 

read that then saw current games played...wow and rift sorry bro taking that with some heavy grains of salt

 As you should.  Both games have mechanics that work and are polished and I enjoy them.  Sure I want a change, which is why I tried (again and again) Earthrise.  In its current state it sucks.  But by all means man, go spend your money on it.  It's a free country.

Originally posted by potapithikos

Originally posted by Adun

Originally posted by potapithikos
Replying to a well written articulate post with "*Point* HAHAH WoW LOL" pretty much invalidates any argument you tried to make ... if you consider Adun's responce an attempt to make any argument.

 

This is the "well-written and articulate post" you're talking about?

Originally posted by Broomy
 I bought ER a few months ago and tried it...it was terrible.  I would log in periodically to see how the game fared.  It was still terrible.  Logged in today to see if the patch improved things....still a joke.  LAG, No direction, Poor mechanics, toxic community for the most part. 

 

I'm done.  Uninstalling that total piece of garbage.  And I will be letting my buddies that were interested in it know to NOT bother wasting thier hard earned cash.  This is simply put crimminal theft of player money. 

You know, now that I reread it, I, too, was blown away by it's articulation, insight, and powerful prose. I sincerely and whole-heartedly withdraw my retort which was comprised of, to be exact, "Lol". I can easily see how you inferred ER has a toxic community at my example, but sir, know that on the next moon, I shall give myself to penance and light a candle to mark the ocassion, for it is something which should not be forgotten, and indeed, taken deeply to breast.

Nice try, but you still haven't addressed a single of his points regarding Lag, No Direction, Poor Mechanics. 

 

Keep continuing to validate his opinion of the community being toxic.

 

+1 for the improvement in insulting though! Definately much better than "WoW Lol!"

 He won't address them because he can't.  He instead chose to dismiss them as "blanket" when anyone that plays MMOs are familiar with those terms and what they mean.  I'm still gagging that he went there with the "WOW LOl" comment.   And we are the horde?  Those WOW insults are so played out I'm beginning to think they will eventually become part of the Godwin's Law.  IE:  "Given enough time on a gaming forum, all comparisons or insults are eventually related to the MMO World of Warcraft." 

;)

Originally posted by Adun

Originally posted by potapithikos

Originally posted by Adun

Originally posted by potapithikos
Replying to a well written articulate post with "*Point* HAHAH WoW LOL" pretty much invalidates any argument you tried to make ... if you consider Adun's responce an attempt to make any argument.

 

This is the "well-written and articulate post" you're talking about?

Originally posted by Broomy
 I bought ER a few months ago and tried it...it was terrible.  I would log in periodically to see how the game fared.  It was still terrible.  Logged in today to see if the patch improved things....still a joke.  LAG, No direction, Poor mechanics, toxic community for the most part. 

 

I'm done.  Uninstalling that total piece of garbage.  And I will be letting my buddies that were interested in it know to NOT bother wasting thier hard earned cash.  This is simply put crimminal theft of player money. 

You know, now that I reread it, I, too, was blown away by it's articulation, insight, and powerful prose. I sincerely and whole-heartedly withdraw my retort which was comprised of, to be exact, "Lol". I can easily see how you inferred ER has a toxic community at my example, but sir, know that on the next moon, I shall give myself to penance and light a candle to mark the ocassion, for it is something which should not be forgotten, and indeed, taken deeply to breast.

Nice try, but you still haven't addressed a single of his points regarding Lag, No Direction, Poor Mechanics. 

 

Keep continuing to validate his opinion of the community being toxic.

 

+1 for the improvement in insulting though! Definately much better than "WoW Lol!"

Rofl, It has already been stated in this thread countless time that lag no longer exists, and as far as "no direction" and "poor mechanics" are concerned, these are vague, blanket terms that mean nothing. The fact that you cited these "points" as articulate and well-written just makes me laugh, as does the rest of your desperate attempts at bashing the game when you clearly know nothing of it. The only thing "toxic" here are people like yourself who, while not even playing the game they're condemning, and thus in actuality know f*ck-all about it, are not deterred from still talking at length of what they do not know. But really you're not to be blamed; it's the standard migratory MMO kid mentality, and you're just another number amongst it's horde.

 Yes, Adun, my post was well written...short and to the point.  I stated how I felt about the game clearly and succinctly and most importantly WHY I felt that way (and if someone that has been playing MMOs alleges terms like "poor mechanics" and "no direction" are "blanket" they need to stop playing.  My niece is 12 and she is a gamer that understands those terms relative to MMO gaming).  I also threw in the details of  several attempts I made to have faith in the game, give it a chance, hope for the best.  And then I rounded out my statement with the blunt truth...the game is garbage in its current state.  Sorry man, but I don't "roleplay" about burning a candle as penance.  I give it to you straight with no chaser.  Sorry if that wasn't eloquent enough for you.    Your posts on the other hand have been quite frankly childish.  And yes, You are a prime example of the toxic community that I referred to.  I will have to thank you for proving my point there.  Now, back to the hot mess otherwise known as Earthrise....

I really don't have much more to say about it.  But I will say this:  And this is to you Adun: stop telling people there is no lag in the game.  That's a ballfaced lie.  And as long as you keep telling that lie here, I and others will be there to oppose it.  Cause you know why?  People come to MMORPG for better or worse, but to get the skinny on MMOs without being under the bias of the game's official forums.  Contrary to popular belief, people actually want to find a great game....let me repeat that...people WANT to find a great game to feed thier MMO hobby.  When people express displeasure for a game it is because in some way that game disappointed them.  MMORPG is the forum that allows people to be very honest about their experiences in a game.  And to tell players something about a game that too many know is simply not true is a violation of the spirit of these forums.  You would do better off on the official forums where mods can delete the negative posts, MMORPG is NOT the place for you. 

So in closing I say to all prospective buyers of ER:  don't waste your money as I did.  The game has serious issues with lag, mechanics and has no direction.  If you have money to burn and need your scifi MMO fix your better off going to EVE or (and Im serious) Anarchy Online.  Both of these games have helpful communities (EVE is rather elitists but they know their stuff), in depth game mechanics (builds, market, crafting) and no elves. 

Originally posted by Adun

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by camelguy

This game is complete shit. 

 

....Stay far away from this one folks.

 ^This.  I bought ER a few months ago and tried it...it was terrible.  I would log in periodically to see how the game fared.  It was still terrible.  Logged in today to see if the patch improved things....still a joke.  LAG, No direction, Poor mechanics, toxic community for the most part. 

 

I'm done.  Uninstalling that total piece of garbage.  And I will be letting my buddies that were interested in it know to NOT bother wasting thier hard earned cash.  This is simply put crimminal theft of player money. 

Current Games: WOW, RIFT

Lol

 Yeah, WOW and RIFT.  Because there are so many GARBAGE games like ER what other choice is there?  Keep talking shit, TR closed and so will ER.  The TR community was obtuse as well and they helped in the ruination of that game.  ER will share the same fate.

Originally posted by Cavadus

Toxic community?  ER's community is the only one I've ever enjoyed besides PreCU's.

ER has a fantastic community full of people willing to help anyone who asks for it.  Just last night I was helping some new players group grind BP so they could get their skills up.

ER's community is one of the best around.

 That's your opinion.  It has not been my experience, but thats a moot point.  The game is garbage. 

Originally posted by Caldicot

Imagine the greatest minds of mmo-gaming, programming and non-greedy people come together to make an mmo for us and not for them.

Now erase that thought, because it's never going to happen.

 The problem is "we" ( as in us, the consumers) don't really know what we want.  We are fickle and our tastes change like someone with a bad wardrobe: lots of changes, very few surprises.  Devs need to keep their finger on the pulse of the gaming community, but when they do all they feel is staccato.

I think the most successful MMOs will have certain key elements that are universal (short list: ability to solo to max, pvp, decent end game).  Then take a few new tricks ("shineys") and throw them in the mix to appeal to our fickle tastes.  Eventually a developer will come up with the new  trick that actually sticks to the wall and hence will have a success.  I actually don't think its that complicated. 

Originally posted by camelguy

This game is complete shit. 

 

....Stay far away from this one folks.

 ^This.  I bought ER a few months ago and tried it...it was terrible.  I would log in periodically to see how the game fared.  It was still terrible.  Logged in today to see if the patch improved things....still a joke.  LAG, No direction, Poor mechanics, toxic community for the most part. 

I'm done.  Uninstalling that total piece of garbage.  And I will be letting my buddies that were interested in it know to NOT bother wasting thier hard earned cash.  This is simply put crimminal theft of player money. 

Thats why I quit as well, the combat was awkward and the animations were bad.  Not to mention it took 1000 bullets to kill one thing.  :(

As I thought..."vaporware".  At this point I'll beleive it when I see it.  Thanks for the replies.

That whole walking in stations thing, did that ever happen in EVE?  Been away for a while. 

I downloaded patch, logged in..the game is still a laggy pos.  Stop the false advertising please. 

I have no idea what Xyson is, but my advice is stay away from that broken/beta/launched-to-early hot mess that is known as Earthrise. 

I am currently trying to get my $50 bucks back that I paid for that total POS "game".  I am ashamed that MMORPG.Com has even allowed that game to advertise on their site. 

You would think after so many bad examples that have launched in the past few years that the makers of ER would know better.  No one wants to play a lagfest piece of garbage that has no polish and is unfinished.  Give me my hard-earned money back Masthead!

Thanks for the honest review. I am currently trying to get a refund for that buggy excuse for a game. 

I'm desperate for a scifi MMO in a sandbox (thats NOT EVE) so I guess I'll drop a dime too, but sheesh that beta vid looks like crap!

I played EQOA at launch.  It was my first MMO.  I will always remember those days.  That game was a wonderment.  I have too many fond memories to even sample as it would take 10 pages.  DFC...classic.  Vox Castle...classic.  Open world with danger and mystery.  Farming rare mobs for rares (ie: My Emerald robe and my Sporemesh).  Playing my shaman diviner (to date the BEST avatar/class I have ever played).  Raiding all night.  Plane of sky, Plane of Disease.  The long runs to camps. 

Best memories ever.  If EQOA 2 came out updated for PS3 (or any game console) Id be back in a heartbeat.

Love you, EQOA.

I love being a healer as well.  Have played healers as main in every MMO that I have played that has them incorporated into gameplay:

EQOA Shaman

EQ2 Shaman

AOC Shaman

WOW Shaman/Priest

Tabula Rasa  Medic

etc.

I love healing and being needed as well.  However that being said, I do think it was a good idea for current MMO design to become less dependent on healers.  The fact is alot of players in the genre DO NOT like playing healers, so altho it may make those that do more wanted, it certainly causes a shortage that may stifle players.  Making healing interesting and fun has been a major innovation in MMOs.  I think WOW got it down with the ability to switch specs/talents so that healing may be versatile and not encumber the development of groups. 

Good healer will always be wanted/needed, but I think moving away from being completely healer dependent was a good idea.

Originally posted by Fluxii

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Fluxii

What's so truly sad is, and I don't care what w0w fanboi's think, EQ2 is FAR superior to w0w.  I mean, they're not even in the same realm.  EQ has so many more options, is so much larger, has so much more depth, it's not even funny.  But the lemmings just keep following w0w down the easy road (not to say eq hasn't been dumbed down) but people get so focused (blinders on) they can't see the forest for the trees.  The problem really was that Bllizz had a better hype machine in the beginning (the 2 games were released close together) so, guess who won out.  Plus, you still have an EQ1 community.

 

w/e  BLEHHHH  it's an old debate... I don't even know why I'm bringing it up.  Guess cuz it's a w0w player trying eq for the first time.

 

...and don't get me wrong, I've played w0w.  It's ok for what it is I guess.  But *shrug* really, you can't compare the two, Hell, EQ2 had 3 expansions out before w0w barely had one.  Who's really trying?

 I'm not sure how EQ2 with its abandoned landscapes beats another game.  Please explain?  How many server mergers has EQ2 had now?  One? Two?   And the "hype" machine only goes so far...Blizz does things right.  In fact it did things so right that EQ2 copied alot of elements from WOW.  So please stop putting out your personal opinion as tho it is a fact....its only your opinion.  Nothing more. 

 

EQ2 has serious population issues, and it has for some time.  It also has classes that are excrutiatingly boring to solo to level.  That was enough to make me cancel. 

EQ copied from w0w.... you're kidding right?  PLZ give me an example.  Blizz is KNOWN for copying elements from anything that's popular on the market.

 

And as far as population goes, that has nothing to do with gameplay/graphics/content.  I don't debate in the least that their pop is low now... HENCE why I said how funny it is that the lemmings just keep following the same old rehashed garbage. 

 Yes EQ2 did copy WOW.  I played EQ2 for 2 years and started at Launch.  At launch it was a completely different game.  Let's see what they added that was in WOW first:

1. Quest indicators over NPCs

2. Solo content (even tho its still insufficient)

3. Battlegrounds

4. Easier crafting

5. Faster travel

Not to say that WOW invented these things, but it certainly had them BEFORE EQ2 did.  I am not sure what Blizz copied from EQ2 since it is "known" to copy.  Please provide an example.

No one is saying that the number of subs is an indicator of the BEST game, what is the best game anyway?  There is no definition.  However in everyway from graphics, ease of use, art design, scripted encounters and PVE content, etc. WOW beats EQ2 hands down.  To deny that the atronomical number of subs WOW has is not an indicator of better overall design (ie: one that appeals to many) is simply being in denial for the sake of, well, being in denial.

Originally posted by Fluxii

What's so truly sad is, and I don't care what w0w fanboi's think, EQ2 is FAR superior to w0w.  I mean, they're not even in the same realm.  EQ has so many more options, is so much larger, has so much more depth, it's not even funny.  But the lemmings just keep following w0w down the easy road (not to say eq hasn't been dumbed down) but people get so focused (blinders on) they can't see the forest for the trees.  The problem really was that Bllizz had a better hype machine in the beginning (the 2 games were released close together) so, guess who won out.  Plus, you still have an EQ1 community.

 

w/e  BLEHHHH  it's an old debate... I don't even know why I'm bringing it up.  Guess cuz it's a w0w player trying eq for the first time.

 

...and don't get me wrong, I've played w0w.  It's ok for what it is I guess.  But *shrug* really, you can't compare the two, Hell, EQ2 had 3 expansions out before w0w barely had one.  Who's really trying?

 I'm not sure how EQ2 with its abandoned landscapes beats another game.  Please explain?  How many server mergers has EQ2 had now?  One? Two?   And the "hype" machine only goes so far...Blizz does things right.  In fact it did things so right that EQ2 copied alot of elements from WOW.  So please stop putting out your personal opinion as tho it is a fact....its only your opinion.  Nothing more. 

EQ2 has serious population issues, and it has for some time.  It also has classes that are excrutiatingly boring to solo to level.  That was enough to make me cancel.