This thread is an abomination without a poll...

PS: My life for Aiur

Earth and Beyond or AC2

Arcanum MMO. Enjoy your sandbox steampunk game.

Nah not really, no idea what I would make off hand, but that would be awesome

Sci-fi has been going down the tubes for a while. First ECW crap, removing the twilight zone marathon, renaming the channel that abomination (I won't even say it), and generally sucking. Last I recall their lineup consisted of ECW and three or four terrible ghost hunters spinoffs with the usual horrible B scifi movie on the weekend. 

1680x1050 as its native for my monitor.

Btw, to anyone thinking "oh it will never be a problem 8D Just teaches them dern kids they cant hide behind anonymity 8D" (which I will remind you, as your name means as little as your avatars name without context, the fear your supposedly invoking in trolls is that of the context that can be garnered via their name, IE: Their location and various other information that can link the name to their physical self. Basically, you're condining the system because the threat of violent and criminal  reprocussion  will keep them in check...) lets just see how it worked out for a Mod that decided to try and prop up the "feature".

"Example? At one point in the huge Real ID thread on Bliz's site, a GM popped in to say "Hey I think Real ID is a good idea!" and posted his real name on the thread. Within minutes his physical address, email address and phone number were posted in a reply. Thanks to the quick "delete" fingers of the Blizzard mods it was removed almost instantly; but the damage was done" -GUcomics

Anyone who has used the internet for any appreciable length of time knows how stupid this is. Still don't believe me? Head on over to 4chan with your real name and be mr "IRL toughguy" there and ask for your "docs". Enjoy.

I am incredibly sad for humanity knowing that there are people who not only don't see a problem with what they're doing, but at in fact DEFENDING it.

And you wonder why Nigerian scams work....

Blizzard is still pioneering brave new paths into the forest of "STUPID" I see. Thanks for the major security risk guys! I like how their solution is that "People will troll less if there is a threat to their accounts and lives 8D!" because your real name means literally just as little as your avatar names besides the fact that it can be abused to steal your shit and allow creepers to find you because its used in real life endevors. So if it didn't have the whole "people are going to hunt you down/hack your account" thing implied, it couldn't have the effect they're looking for in the first place. In other words, this move was downright ignorant or evil. Maybe both.

Honestly, when someone gets hurt by this (financially, phsycially, or otherwise) I hope to fuck they turn right around and sue the shit out of Blizzard/Activision, as they have needed to be knocked off their little pedestal for a while now.

In keeping with its "resurrection" to be a unique entity rather than a WoW ripoff, I think it should eschew PvP all together and opt rather for a new and innovative mechanic they can call PvS (Player vs Smart). It will add a rich metagame experience to Alganon as the majority of the battle will take place on forums, where the players faction attempts to speak their mind and must find new and interesting ways to do so while the Smart faction uses his moderation powers and army of lawyers to stomp them out. Fanboys will be the third faction to balance it out as we all know factional conflict needs three factions.

Successfully completing objectives will earn ever coveted "Ego points" which can be spent on player respect, or additional abilities such as "Throw the book at em!" which uses a thesaurus to find new ways to call someone an idiot and threaten them with libel.

I've been carefully watching it since day one of the sale. My poor wallet )=. Today is one of the most awesome ones ever though with Bad Company 2, Just Cause 2, and Metro all getting a huge price cut for the day. I was waiting for Metro to finally drop too, I knew they would do it eventually. There's still three more days of sales! ;;

edit: fuck it. I give up

Noob. Real pro's have an alt account for each engine of their main accounts biggest ship that way they can use them to fly shuttles in front of the exhaust to block the radient glinting at all times. Obviously this game isn't for you, carebear...

Originally posted by Celestis1000

APB delivers something new.  It is a highly addictive adrenaline filled environment. If you are good at FPS games you will feel right at home. The game gives a fresh feel to MMO gaming with the FPS twist.

 

By paying $49.95 the game will give you a lot of fun for 2 months, then maybe by the 3rd month you will get a little bored and then only play here & there.

 

Most games last about 1-2 months before you get bored and that is worth $49.95 in my opinion. This game gets two thumbs up for me.

 

I know a lot of you may feel burned from buying other MMO games that turned out to be real shitty, but don't worry.

 

APB delivers.

One would imagine if you're good at FPSes, it in fact wouldn't "deliver" as there is only one hitbox and the game plays considerably more like an arcade style 3rd person shooter than a FPS.

Additionally, I find it hard for a game to give a "fresh new tw1st (see I used a number there to make it more extreme!)" on MMOs when it is not an MMO. Though sometimes people dress up in fur suits and pretend to be foxes too, so perhaps APB is an MMO in the same way a foxfur is an animal.

I must admit though. That is a great value for some super casual gaming. I mean, six hours of repetative luke warm action a week for two months is fantastic! You don't even have some stupid story or engaging gameplay to get in the way like most other $50  non-mmo games that don't require a monthly fee. Just jump in, enter that social zone, and get you some exciting arts and crafts!

APB really is a winner! It's easy to win when you're in a class all of your own though, because it's utterly unique to try to exploit your fan base as severely as this game has.

Thank you for the remarkable shill post though. Otherwise I wouldn't have known how awesome the game truely was until the week long post-release review embargo ended...

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Only reason people oppose subscription for APG is because they love the game and dont want to see it fail.

Every game of APB format, that tried to introduce sub to game genre that is not used to subscriptions , failed.

Its sad APB is sailing the same course.

Shame because its quite good game.

The districts are open to everyone. When you go tearing down the street in a car you just stole you will pass by players having shootouts in alleyways, have others zip by you durring a high speed chase, explosions going off, gun fire, sirens, etc. There's constantly something going on. It's more of a living breathing world than any current MMO.

Yeah, no. What you just described is "It's the Red Dead Redemption lobby but with cars instead of horses!...and a monthly fee...

One thing I keep seeing over and over from the people defending the ass pounding RTW is giving them, is that they keep insisting it's an MMO. It's not. Not at all.  There is no world, just lots of little instances that happen to hold a handful more people than a 64 player hosted match. There is zero persistance in anything besides your caracter stats.

If you're really dead set on supporting this crap, the boxed version will be available on the release date. It's already at stores (shipped in and is in the street date pile with Naughty Bear etc) and should be available day of. If you want to get into the head-start going on now though, your only option is to pre-order a digital copy via steam or somesuch.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

wow, this is pretty shitty considering you pay a sub fee.. haha

Lots of games that have subs do not have viop period...so I really don't get your point.

There is really only three options a game company can do.

1. Do it the way APB has it.

2. Increase the sub cost inorder to pay the licence fee

3. use an in-house made viop system that will drive up cost and time of the game.  (I'm sure the viop companies would not like this option)

Lots of games that have subs are also MMOs. This isn't, and shouldn't have a fee in the first place. That aside, your forgot option 4: Don't have voip. I know, HORROR AND LEMENTATION! Whatever shal I do using an archaic keyboard to enscribe crude characters onto my screen! But if this is the alternative, let people with headsets glued to their skulls find their own voip solution.

Faction specific classes/races please. It's become a sad trend that most MMOs today for the sake of keeping people from having to make a *GASP* "choice" in their MMO experience that they can't immediately reverse, nearly everything is cloned across two factions. Sure, there will be some cosmetic differences, but they'll always make sure to have an "elf type" class on both sides (ex: Blood Elf/Night Elf). Additionally, it's just lazy development. Cloned races/classes means less skills, animations, models etc you have to develop, but even though you only have six truely unique classes/races, you can spaltter in giant bold 120pt font lettering "12 RACES AND CLASSES!!!! I THINK I JUST POOPED A LITTLE!" all over your box and marketing.

Originally posted by a9tail

Originally posted by Kordesh

 

Perhaps, but that's not really the point being argued. Nobody is debating the fun factor, nor should "because its so fun!" be a factor in if something warrants a recurring fee or not. It's a game, it's supposed to be "really fun" and "well made" regardless. Once you start charging monthly, it becomes a service.

What exactly are they offering for this money? What service are they providing and is it worht the price tag? Give us a spreadsheet with your costs and contributions and tell us why this makes sense. MMOs have considerable overhead, continually add content, and are under constant development. You're providing what amounts to a match based shooter (yeah, the matches are larger, but they're still little 

s split off into each other) and little else from what I can gather. 

Its not offerning anything less than WoW. Btw I live in more less capitalistic world where price is set by ppl willing to pay that price, worth is something that relates to market no some opinionated body  or objective value. 

In the end it all goes to i like i buy it, i dont like i will not buy. Does Modern Warfare 2 10h medicore gamplay is worth its price comprared to 50+ of Dragon Age? OR BC2 . 

What exactly are they offering for this money? Fun 

What service are they providing and is it worht the price tag? Fun 

Give us a spreadsheet with your costs and contributions and tell us why this makes sense. Ridiculus  claim but

fun factor / Game cost per game time > 1 = for me win

 

 

unless i did not get irony

ps

there are no matches in APB

And this is why the world is a cesspool. "Free market hurf derf go capitalism!" Thanks for leading the way to the glorious future where companies bind us against walls with red tape and create increasingly predatory "services" because "who cares! I have money and want stuff so whatever *drool*."

If you can't even see how this gives CONSIDERABLY less than WoW (which relatively does not give much in itself) I'm less than surprised at your position....

Considering community/hobby features in MMOs take a massively distant backseat to gear grinding and raids in most MMOs today, and most people just care about bullshit metrics,  yeah, online community is pretty much hosed.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by tank017

I think it should be more in line with the path that Global Agenda has just taken..

free to play with payments for extra content and so on.

If it was as bad as GA I would probably agree, but this is leaps and bounds better than GA. 

Perhaps, but that's not really the point being argued. Nobody is debating the fun factor, nor should "because its so fun!" be a factor in if something warrants a recurring fee or not. It's a game, it's supposed to be "really fun" and "well made" regardless. Once you start charging monthly, it becomes a service.

What exactly are they offering for this money? What service are they providing and is it worht the price tag? Give us a spreadsheet with your costs and contributions and tell us why this makes sense. MMOs have considerable overhead, continually add content, and are under constant development. You're providing what amounts to a match based shooter (yeah, the matches are larger, but they're still little instances split off into each other) and little else from what I can gather. How is that different, besides the number of concurrent players, than any other FPS in the last decade that it warrants a fee?