Originally posted by Thunderous

SWG had healthy populations?  Come on...  That's just delusional.  Where were all these imaginary people you speak of?  I'm not comparing SWG to WoW, I'm comparing SWG to SWG.

In October of 2005 SWG was still viable and had packed servers.  By January of 2006, 3 short months later, SWG was an absolute ghost town and stayed one until the end.

True story.

Sorry SNG, but I went back to SWG on nearly every vet trial, and even at the VERY END (moreso at the end) even Starsider was dead.

Really, there's no need to spin it at this point friend, it was dead, it's closure proves it. Time for you to do what all of us Pre-CU vets have been told to do for many years... move on.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Ginaz

Originally posted by superniceguy

Where are all the Full servers gone?

Starsider, Chilastra, Flurry and Farstar were all full in June 2011, and was fact, there are screenshots on the official SWG forums to show that. In April 2011 only Starsider was full, the free cts was working and getting the populations sorted. Pretty darn good for 8 years

WOWs servers were full for years. Christmas 2010 I could not create charcaters on the server I created back in 2004, because it was FULL. SWTORs popuilations is pathetic if it can not hold FULL servers at this stage with less than one month and all playing in the first 30 free days. By the end of the year they will all be Light at the rate they are dropping.

I know this might sound CRRRRAZY.... but could it be that server technology, like all other computer technology,  has IMPROVED drastically over the years (I know... I'm a loony thinker), and that server capacity might be (gulp) DIFFERENT than it was back then?  SWG and WoW may have well had full servers, but that has no bearing on whether or not TOR has more people logged in. All it means is that their CAPACITY is LESS.

Originally posted by Zekiah

Perhaps they'll add Jedi pandas soon to go with the zombies.

I draw the line at Ewoks with cherub wings, that would never happen... OH WAIT!

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Rakghouls are the Murlocs of SWTOR.

 

So... that'd mean that murlocs are the zombies of WoW? O_o

Not quite...

Murlocs, and now Rakghouls are the 'default kill fodder' that you end up killing over, and over ,and over...

 

Right.

 

Which is a whole world of difference from killing zombies over, and over, and over again, because that never happens at all in games with zombies in them >.>

 

:)

Exactly ;)

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Rakghouls are the Murlocs of SWTOR.

 

So... that'd mean that murlocs are the zombies of WoW? O_o

Not quite...

Murlocs, and now Rakghouls are the 'default kill fodder' that you end up killing over, and over ,and over...

Rakghouls are the Murlocs of SWTOR.

Originally posted by fadis

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

 

Zoimbies!!!!   OMG...  this is too funny.  It someone wanted to make a joke/parody of an upcoming TOR expansion pack.. IT WOULD BE THIS.

Well... actually it would probably include pandas (don't worry... Ewoks can't be far behind), but zombies would be 2nd.

 

Additional content based around probably the most disliked planet in the game... great!

I have to agree. More Rahkghouls? Please say it ain't so.

And zombies take over another MMO :p

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Esquire1980

As the wife says, "It's dead, Jim" seeing that signature pic I copyed from these forums many years ago in fact.  It really doesn't matter anylonger, does it?  It's gone and it's not coming back.

I emailed LA saying that SWTOR is no where a good as SWG and would like it back, and they passed my feedback on to the relevant people. SWG can come back by popular demand, but if people think there is no hope and do not let LA know then it will not come back.

Oh man. I guess it' the new generation of SWG vets that need to be told to get over it. Sorry SNG, it ain't commin back.

If they wouldn't roll back to retain 250,000 people, they won't reactivate it to regain the measley 5000 peeps.

It's gone man.

Originally posted by PyrateLV

I enjoyed Life Day every year. I also didnt mind Empire Day and The Galactic Moon Festival. They were fun Events.

But when they added Ewok Love Fest, that to me was when they jumped the shark. It was just so.....GHEY.

Yeah, I'm not judging anyone who leads that lifestyle, but when I logged in on a vet-trial during the Love fest to recieve a quest to dip my twig and berries in a chocolate fountain, I could only think SOE was making fun of it's player base.

I mean c'mon, how is that NOT a euphamism?

Originally posted by dinams

Isnt it like this in all bioware games?

You always end up a legend

I have zero issues with ending up a legend. It's the starting off a legend I feel takes away from the game.

Starting off a legend is neither Star Warsy, nor Iconic.

This actually goes against the SW formula (or most would say, the Odesseus' Hero's Journey formula that GL uses).

I know it's a mortal sin to compare this game to SWG, but besides the space combat, the one HUGE thing SWG had over SWTOR is that you started off as a nobody (*cough* Pre-NGE *cough*), and became a hero.

Mind you, I've only really played the Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior's early levels (up to around 14ish), but it seems everyone in the this gawd forsaken Galaxy think's I'm the best thing since sliced bread. It seems to me the writers at BW either weren't paying attention, or think that somehow being treated like the chosen one is going to cause people to become attached to their toons, when in actuallity, at least for me, the opposite is true.

Discuss.

(disclaimer: I still think it's a pretty decent game, but the story aspects have me worried)

I love how there's just one more product upsell on that page (SWG Memory Book: Coming Soon!).

Even in death, they gotta make a buck.

(Decent letter though)

Originally posted by keithian

To each his own. Ill never understand the joy of rushing to the end just to say Im there. Its like going to a museum and running through every room just to say you've seen the entire museum. Doesn't seem like fun to me.

THIS!

Powerlevelling... I just don't get it.

I know many of us are headed to SWTOR.

Been bouncing back and forth between WoW and other MMO's since the NGE myself, but heading to TOR for the foreseeable future.

What about you?

While SWG Pre-CU had some amazing mechanics... it was the SW IP that really held it together. The music, the sound, the ambience, etc.

Another thing that the IP brought with it (pre_Clone Wars cartoon at least) was a mature player base. Loading into SWG for the first time 8 years ago was like going to a SW fan convention 24/7.

Without the IP, you'd have a handfull of really great mechanics, but the tech is garbage, and the people running it... even worse.

According to the TOR facebook page, they sent out the 4th wave... but are gonna do another 'bonus' round :P

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by sanosukex
 

A very simple argument. I really don't care about how new or old a MMO (or for that matter, a game is), i want value for my money.

So I only judge games by whether i think it will be fun.

As a consumer, i don't need to be 'fair". I just need to pay for what I think is the best entertainment product.

 

THIS! 

If a game gets long in the tooth and can't compete with a new game... tough luck.  (hint - drop your price)

If a game is launched not quite up to snuff and can't compete against an established title... tough luck.  (hint - finish developing your flipping game)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DHIqUkmj-o&feature=related

Let it go.

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Originally posted by SethiusX

Originally posted by Puremallace

It depends honestly. If they slow content down to a crawl people will call it a gimick that can not be realistically done. If Bioware proves they can turn a profit and push out content, then it changes the genre.

 

It is just like free transfers in Rift. If EA/Bioware charges for them the very first comment in that thread will be "why you charging when they are free in Rift?"

 

If it is one of those things just simply added and they make it look easy expect a CRAPPPP ton of preasure of Blizzard and other devs to do it.

 

I think there is a good point here that I hadn't thought about. Will it slow content production down to a crawl? (obviously we can't answer this yet). If it does slow it down too much, then SWTOR might have a hard time lasting because players will get bored of the themepark style without constant new content. I wonder if Bioware is up to the challenge. If Bioware can do it fast, it could be a game changer, no?

How much time can it possibly take to have an actor read lines off from a piece of paper?? Certainly not more time than it takes to actually code the new content. And since one can be done while the other is taking place, I doubt it will slow things down too much.

Adding VO is vastly more complicated than text. The actual actor is just a small part of the process.