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Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by JamesP
Jason "Forgot" to send the T-Shirts to us last week. I spoke to him today and he's sent them out to Joel today. He sent us the shipping receipt so we know they were sent. Joel should have them Saturday.

OK.  It's Saturday.. looking forward to your update that you now have them.

 

Or not.

 

 

We do in fact have them. They are in decent enough. The shipping labels were printed out backwards so Joel will need to print out new shipping labels but that's easy enough to do.

Jason "Forgot" to send the T-Shirts to us last week. I spoke to him today and he's sent them out to Joel today. He sent us the shipping receipt so we know they were sent. Joel should have them Saturday.
Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by Slapshot1188

James,  I hope you had a lawyer review the documents before signing.  I also hope that you received a certified breakdown of expenses incurred related to the Kickstarter funds.  As you (according to the last update on Kickstarter) have now assumed liability for the Kickstarter, I sure hope you can account for every dollar raised/spent.  Not just some Email from Jason saying "Dude nothing is left.." but actual invoices matched up against the budget...

 

Slappy, this had to have went down over a matter of hours. On Easter Sunday. In the Evening....

 

 

We entered talks with Jason around 1:29am yesterday morning... Everything was signed by 10:30 last night... This was a very quick and rushed deal. However things are still being brought over to our ownership today and prob. through out the week and Jason has said he would be willing to write up a break down of expenses thus far for us so we can account for where the KS Money has gone. We will release that complete break down on our forum once we have it as part of our dedication to be completely transparent going forth.

Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by JamesP
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Slapshot1188

James,  I hope you had a lawyer review the documents before signing.  I also hope that you received a certified breakdown of expenses incurred related to the Kickstarter funds.  As you (according to the last update on Kickstarter) have now assumed liability for the Kickstarter, I sure hope you can account for every dollar raised/spent.  Not just some Email from Jason saying "Dude nothing is left.." but actual invoices matched up against the budget...

 

Also, if you have not had someone review the documents and/or gotten a certified breakdown of expenses (and liabilities), most states have a 3-5 day "cooling off" period where you can back out of a contract after you come to your senses.

 

If I were you I would be quite concerned that Jason was sure to point out that you assumed all the Kickstarter Liabilities.  

As the person handling the Business side Joel went over everything and made sure we were protected. Basically at this point if we mess up moving forward we are responsible if any legal issues arise from choices made in the past before MMOI owned GM then Jason is still responsible... However I am hoping the community will allow Jason to just peacefully leave and work with us to move things forward. There are no hard feelings between Jason, my self, or MMOI and it's important to just get this behind us and move GM forward.

 

So for instance... the physical KS rewards like Tshirts.  Who is responsible?

 

Also- were any funds turned over to you?  

The T-Shirts and other KS Rewards are an ongoing responsibility that we have picked up... Jason is sending the rest of the T-Shirts to Joel and once we get them we will ensure they go out in a timely fashion. unfortunately with no funds from the KS being handed over to us since there are none left the expense to ship them falls on us. But we are committed to ensuring everyone get's what is theres.

Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Slapshot1188

James,  I hope you had a lawyer review the documents before signing.  I also hope that you received a certified breakdown of expenses incurred related to the Kickstarter funds.  As you (according to the last update on Kickstarter) have now assumed liability for the Kickstarter, I sure hope you can account for every dollar raised/spent.  Not just some Email from Jason saying "Dude nothing is left.." but actual invoices matched up against the budget...

 

Also, if you have not had someone review the documents and/or gotten a certified breakdown of expenses (and liabilities), most states have a 3-5 day "cooling off" period where you can back out of a contract after you come to your senses.

 

If I were you I would be quite concerned that Jason was sure to point out that you assumed all the Kickstarter Liabilities.  

As the person handling the Business side Joel went over everything and made sure we were protected. Basically at this point if we mess up moving forward we are responsible if any legal issues arise from choices made in the past before MMOI owned GM then Jason is still responsible... However I am hoping the community will allow Jason to just peacefully leave and work with us to move things forward. There are no hard feelings between Jason, my self, or MMOI and it's important to just get this behind us and move GM forward.

Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

PS: Oh, and according to your own game's Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/riseofheroesmmo you will be developing Rise of Heroes MMO game AND Greed Monger?

With no funding for both?

Whelp! LOL! Talk about biting more than you can chew...

 

Greed Monger is MMO Interactive's ONLY game in development. We will make sure GM is launched successfully and the KS Backers are taking care of before even thinking about future projects.

Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by JamesP

My company, MMO Interactive, now owns Greed Monger... We will have further updates soon.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/appleton/greed-monger-a-crafting-focused-sandbox-mmorpg/posts/1189988

James- I wish you luck man. I really like you and really want to see you succeed. I think you are a hell of a guy with some serious balls. You faced us whenever you were called out. You entered places that would scare chuck norris to enter in order to defend your game.

I hope this all works out for you and I hope we stay in touch in a personal level. 

I ... Dont even know dude. I hope you guys do really well

 

lol Thanks... It's been fun over the years (not really but sounded like the right thing to say...) lol You better believe we will keep in touch. It will be nice not having you attacking us for once. lol Though I know if we really starting messing up you will be getting after us and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Originally posted by thundercles
Originally posted by JamesP

My company, MMO Interactive, now owns Greed Monger... We will have further updates soon.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/appleton/greed-monger-a-crafting-focused-sandbox-mmorpg/posts/1189988

 

Best news to come out of this fiasco

Thanks... I hope that MMORPG.com will give us a chance and put our listing back. I'm really looking forward to some great conversation and feedback from the community. I'm also going to be taking a backseat and mostly allowing our PR guys to handle things here and else where now. I have faith they will show the same respect and restraint I've shown here over the years. I'll be around from time to time to check up on things though.

My company, MMO Interactive, now owns Greed Monger... We will have further updates soon.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/appleton/greed-monger-a-crafting-focused-sandbox-mmorpg/posts/1189988

Originally posted by thundercles
Noticed James's account at the atavism website has been banned.

That was from a while ago when I had a Falling out with them... I am now MMODeveloper on there and I am back on good terms with them.

Originally posted by MoreOfTheSame
what is this game and why did it mess up? how much money did they raise ?

we ended up with $90,000 from KS, something like $10,000 from our own crowd funding site, and a unknown amount (Only Jason knows) from Paypal donations.

Originally posted by ArChWind

 


Originally posted by JamesP
Yes it's official... I posted my farewell notice today. I'm ending all association with Greed Monger, ElectricCrow Games, and Jason Appleton... I tried Leaving 2 years ago and was threatened with a Lawsuit if I left so I stayed... Today I'm gone for good.

 

Here is the thread where we are talking in detail about GM:

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/greed-monger-scam-drama-inside.98177/page-3



Best thing you could have done. Now get busy on a new project.

 

Believe me things are already in the works... 

Jason and I talked this afternoon and between threats against me, MMOInteractive, and Rise of Heroes, we agreed to terms that will see to it that he get's everything needed for Last Friday's GM Release. I will be keeping ownership of my MMO Framework and my asset streaming and Terrain Paging Plugins. 

My next moves on the GM front will be based on what Jason's next moves are...

As for my own Projects Joel and I will be registering MMOInteractive and pushing forward with a Prototype for Rise of Heroes. We will have more details soon. 

Nothing at all wrong with Unity3D. Unity3D is a great Engine... yes it has it's flaws but no Game Engine is perfect.

Yes it's official... I posted my farewell notice today. I'm ending all association with Greed Monger, ElectricCrow Games, and Jason Appleton... I tried Leaving 2 years ago and was threatened with a Lawsuit if I left so I stayed... Today I'm gone for good.

Here is the thread where we are talking in detail about GM:

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/greed-monger-scam-drama-inside.98177/page-3

First of all it's based on what I personally make... I can not make more then a certain amount of money per month before my Disability starts getting reduced... I haven't made money off of this on a monthly basis... 2nd of all my Disability prevents me from going out of the house and getting a Job out side... Crowds of people sends me into a panic attack because of my Depression... I am fine sitting down at my computer not being around people. And yes there are days that as a result of my Depression I feel like doing nothing more then just staying in bed all day. - I answered a Question I prob. shouldn't have... My Disability and what I do at home out side of GM is no one's business but my own however I have a policy of being open and up front with people which I should prob. be more careful of. 

For people who don't deal with Depression on a Daily basis I'm sure it's too much to ask for them to understand but whatever it is the way that it is.

Originally posted by EponyxDamor
Originally posted by JamesP
I must say though this new world I've just added is huge... And the terrain streaming is working great... Can't wait to get this release out this evening!

 

Still can't post a picture of it, though, huh? More smoke and mirrors, I'm guessing.

The more and more I read of GM and JamesP, the more I have a hard time believing it wasn't all some big scam.

The entire world isn't designed completely yet. I still need to add a lot more trees and the Desert is currently bare just sand and nothing else. For the last few hours off and on I've been running around trying to find my way to an area with trees and stuff so I can get some screenshots. Still out in the middle of no where with nothing scenic around that would make for a good Screenshot. Just plenty of open area that will be good for players to build up once I get the release out.

Originally posted by ArChWind

 


Originally posted by JamesP

Originally posted by Jaedor Wow. So much hate. Move along folks, and let JamesP make the game.
Thankyou!

 

Just one more point I'm going to address. Saying that we have been scamming people since 2009... I don't know if that was directed at me personally or what... However if it was let me point out the facts:

GM is my FIRST project of any kind that has had any sort of funding attached to it. GM was started in the Fall of 2012 or atleast I came on board in October of 2012 just in time to do a bunch of world Building for our KickStarter Videos. Considering I personally did the world building for them I KNOW for a fact that they were not just demo scenes that came with assets we had bought that we tried to pass off as our own. I still have the base terrain that was used... There is NOTHING there... No trees, no Houses, no grass, no flowers, nothing... Just bare terrain. I was responsible for adding a lot of the houses and NPCs and everything. I stayed up all night for a week straight ONLY sleeping when I finally crashed from being so tired, the week before we launched our KickStarter Campaign trying to get everything ready and to Jason in time for him to record the Videos. 

You can think what you want about GM but HOW can you say that I was scamming people before GM when ALL of my Projects before that were personal projects that had 0 funding. Yes I was sharing my progress on forums but that is no way making promises to people that I was going to complete the projects so in no way was scamming people when I was getting nothing from them except for feedback. Getting Feedback from people on a forum concerning a Project your working on isn't wrong and doesn't make you a scam. It's how we develop our Skills further, share ideas with each other, and all learn and grow together.


 

So you basically have taken over this project? I don't quite understand why but I am confused here as to why you decided to do it when it is no longer the original owner project. It kind of says that GM died and you're trying to revive it while someone else ran off with the cash.

GM never Died. I've always been working on GM since I joined. I wanted to get my Company started up and take over Development of GM... Take over the PR and everything to try and leave some of the Bad PR from our past in the past. I also wanted to have more control over the team. I wanted to be free to bring on new people and get things much more organized so we could move forward. But like I've said all of that fell through and I am still just trying to get GM launched on my own... 

 

I must say though this new world I've just added is huge... And the terrain streaming is working great... Can't wait to get this release out this evening!

Originally posted by Jaedor

Wow. So much hate. Move along folks, and let JamesP make the game.

Thankyou!

Just one more point I'm going to address. Saying that we have been scamming people since 2009... I don't know if that was directed at me personally or what... However if it was let me point out the facts:

GM is my FIRST project of any kind that has had any sort of funding attached to it. GM was started in the Fall of 2012 or atleast I came on board in October of 2012 just in time to do a bunch of world Building for our KickStarter Videos. Considering I personally did the world building for them I KNOW for a fact that they were not just demo scenes that came with assets we had bought that we tried to pass off as our own. I still have the base terrain that was used... There is NOTHING there... No trees, no Houses, no grass, no flowers, nothing... Just bare terrain. I was responsible for adding a lot of the houses and NPCs and everything. I stayed up all night for a week straight ONLY sleeping when I finally crashed from being so tired, the week before we launched our KickStarter Campaign trying to get everything ready and to Jason in time for him to record the Videos. 

You can think what you want about GM but HOW can you say that I was scamming people before GM when ALL of my Projects before that were personal projects that had 0 funding. Yes I was sharing my progress on forums but that is no way making promises to people that I was going to complete the projects so in no way was scamming people when I was getting nothing from them except for feedback. Getting Feedback from people on a forum concerning a Project your working on isn't wrong and doesn't make you a scam. It's how we develop our Skills further, share ideas with each other, and all learn and grow together.

Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by JamesP
I know exactly what the email said... I wrote it! Everything was pretty much a done deal and we were in charge of GM. We just had to sign the paperwork to make it legal. Jason didn't want to hand over the KS Backer information until the papers were signed... The papers were never signed and the deal fell through as a result of Joel leaving... Therefore I still do not have access to that information.

poor James. Always something, huh? never your fault, huh?

 

I would add- You said your company was ALREADY in charge of GM (not might be) and jason was NO LONGER LEAD DEVELOPER (you were)...Not "things are in the works"

 

Lies...Lies...Lies...

And zero respect for the backers who you and jason left in the dark about all of this until THIS VERY DAY when I reprinted your email.

Not being able to directly email or message the KS Backers NO that's not my fault. I can't force Jason to give me the KS Backer information. Jason did post an update to our KS Backers Friday or Saturday when I asked him to but there's been countless times before that that I had asked him to either write an update or give me the ability to write an update and he didn't have the time. NOTHING I can do about that. 

I've been perfectly open with areas where the team and I have made mistakes... Should have had our tech in place before hitting KS things like that. YES I have made mistakes and I'll be the first to admit that. But looking back and seeing where we should have done things differently is easy. 

I'm not really sure where this thread derailed so badly. I released an update Friday and one of our KS Backers posted some screenshots showing what he's been up to in this release. Then I started answering questions and before you know it's completely derailed. I've answered all the questions I'm going to, I've listened to complaints and negativity. I'll take it all under advisement and see what I can do differently in the future. 

Thanks for the input, questions, comments, concerns, ect. I am now going to go back and get some more work done so I can get today's release out on time. Hopefully with each new release things will only improve! Have a good day and thanks again.

I know exactly what the email said... I wrote it! Everything was pretty much a done deal and we were in charge of GM. We just had to sign the paperwork to make it legal. Jason didn't want to hand over the KS Backer information until the papers were signed... The papers were never signed and the deal fell through as a result of Joel leaving... Therefore I still do not have access to that information.
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