The only difference between MMOs with cash shops and without is that the ones with them aknowledge that people can RMT

You can go buy gold to get better items and stuff, hell you can even buy bind on pickup items and crap in almost any game if you look hard enough.

And really Video games, or MMOs really are one of the cheapest forms of entertainment there is. It's no surprise that someone will buy stuff in game to save real life hours if they can.

There is actually alot less haters for this game, you can tell because the lack of hate you got from this post.

The only thing this changes is the illusion that people don't buy gold.

A significant portion of every game populatin buys gold and funnels money away from the game now it's going to be safe and easy to do I can't wait.

Originally posted by Insomniacc

 

I deleted everything you said besides section titles

 

1. Keybinds

You don't need 600 skills to have intresting combat

2.  Spamming

1 is just auto attack you can turn it to auto, I do see how mana or something else could add some more strat to how it works but it's not needed

 

3. Elites

really? just look at dota and LoL I can't believe you put th

 

4. No Juking

I don't see how it's not useful to stun spells that you don't want people to cast

 

5. No Healers

yeah this dosn't really matter it's more like a healer in a DOTA style game, they are useful but they can't just sit there and spam heal through a mass of dps

 

6. Positioning

Most skills are ground targeted or can be dodge, it matters alot where you are standing.

 

7. Conquest vs TDM

completely agree that conquest is dumb but I don't know how much better TDM would be, I would rather have them come up with their own way.

 

8. Automated tournies

 

Yeah I could see some issue with this

 

 

All in all I don't think it will be very intresting of an E sport because I think it will be somewhat hard to see what is going on
 for specators.

Really I think the 2D Esports games are the way to go for specators, maybe fps but I don't usually enjoy watching that

And one final thing the game isn't even out yet how the hell do we have any idea what the skill cap is or even feels like.

DAOC 3 years

FFXI 4 or 5 years

Darkfall 2 years

All three of these had some good similar stuff, it's hard to see, but it's there.

non MMO

Halo, the whole time from original release through halo 3. Also the only FPS i managed to play the singleplayer of

CS only FPS I played for prob 2 or 3 years

Civ 2 and on, its awesome.

If you havn't raided before then you might want to try it out, you don't have to do it in WoW but it is usually pretty time demanding depending on what game you do it in.

Then again I have raided in almost every game besides WoW so I don't really know if the raiding there is super special or something but it dosn't seem to be.

IMO if raiding is the only thing you feel you missed out on then you didn't miss out on much.

Only issue is Mythic and EA have PQ and RvR trademarked so no other game company will use those terms

I love dungeons in MMOs they are usually the group activities and always the coolest places to explore. Playing SWTOR recently all I really wanted to do was just run the instaces to level up. I think it was a combo of the only way to group and the exploration/boss fights

I play healers mainly so anything that makes me put some effort into healing is a ton of fun and bosses usually do it.

Also I love solo exploring dungeons trying to get as far or as deep as I can just a lone.

Really questing in the open world to level is the one thing I hate more than anything in MMOs at the moment.

After playing a lot of MMOs and doing multiple raiding guilds and PvP stuff. I have noticed a trend  that raiding seems to be done mostly on the weekdays. I would usually find Fridays and Saturdays as free nights in a lot of guilds. And PvP, well it happens all the time, but there is more activity on the weekends.

Here is a poll on just the PvE raiding.

Originally posted by Dukkha_Earl

What was the last MMO to ever be successful and be on multiple platforms? (PC, Playstation, Xbox etc)  Has there been one yet, or does GW2 aim to be the first?  (I would not call DCUO successful having gone FTP in less than a year of release)   Or was it Final Fantasy IXIIIXXwhatever on the Playstation 2 and PC?

FFXI was perfectly successful and is on the PS2 and xbox360  PC

So it has been done.

Now ffxi also had a common complaint about a few things and that was "PS2 limitations"

Originally posted by MMOExposed

 

 

Well since in gw2 the house district is Instanced away from the city, doesn't that cause the same effect of Instanced housing, in that it removes players from the city?

player housing seem like a interesting concept feature if done well. But I like the interesting npc city designs that developers make. I havnt seen a MMO with player made cities, come close to the design that I seen from developer made cities.

Both cities are kinda the same thing, developers have to give the players what they use to build the cities

Darkfall had player made cities that were designed by the developers and only able to be built one way and a lot were pretty cool and different.

Thats what I don't really like about the GW2 thing cause its such a big area, assumeing they have nothing important in there then it would be ok, but if your instanced  house in the city was just like your place to put things/decorate like in FFXI it dosn't bring people away form the city because everything else they do is in the city. and it's just one doorway that everyone goes to.

Houseing dosn't make sense with cities

If you want people to live in the cities they would need apartments, houses are usually far away from cities and built around smaller communities

best thing is for instanced apartments something like FFXI where you have your mog house

Other than that there is simply no room in a city for houseing it takes up way to much space.

Unless you do what GW2 is doing and gives everyone a whole district where they could have their house but that seems a bit much really.

If my friends and I are not the same level is it out of the question that we would get to play togeather?

It's been this way for a long time, is this the first game you liked that alot of people did not or something?

You need the right people, thats about it.

People will get stuff done more than money will, find the right people with the right drive for what you want to do and the money really shouldn't be as big of an issue, yes you will need alot but the people are what are going to make your game.

I know they are not MMOs but a game with the same type of view and combat system would be cool. I know of path of Exile which is not released yet so that dosn't work also there is diablo 3 which is not released.

So is there anything that is out there, persistant world would be prefered.

I like the random drop items but thats not really an MMO thing so the game dosn't have to have it.

Basically the one requirement is the view and controls be a 2D type game over the top view, I don't care if you move with the mouse like diablo or with wasd.

Thanks in advance.

You can try ffxi if you can get into it, it takes some time but it's very group dependent.

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Well if people cannot be bothered to read the full details of the emall that's their own issue. 

It clearly states it is for an upcoming (i.e. not happening now) beta, and additional details will be announced soon (again, not happening now).

 

Nah it's very unclear they only say upcoming test that could even imply the test would start in 10 mins. They don't mention when in any form in the email so fault is deffinatly on them.

Originally posted by timtrack

On another note, even if you are "good" at FPS games, they're so infested with cheaters that you'll always get "wtfpwned" in some situations regardless of how good you are. The good thing is that the cheaters are often really bad players without their cheat, so you can outwit them. But in a 1-on-1 face-to-face encounter, you'll get brutally raped almost every time, if you didn't manage to get that once-a-day lucky 0.1s reaction headshot.

 

I hate this crap, I've seen one cheater since I started playing BF3. I've seen more than my fair share of people claiming that someone else is cheating and sometimes it's me their yelling at.

How do you tell if someone is cheating? they insta one shot everyone from across the map.

Maybe someone is radar hacking or crap but I doubt it.

There are more bad players that think their the wtfpwneveryone that guy must be hacking if he beat me, than there are cheaters.

First off whoever said don't rush in dosn't know what their talking about.

You need to rush in and rush in tactically. Rush in, out run, out flank your enemy and accuracy and twitch don't matter when your stabing them or shooting them in the back.

It's not really about memorizing the maps as much as it is about knowing where your enemies are, know what direction they are in so you know if your exposed or not.

Also there are alot of different ways to play FPS if you have crap accuacy like myself you can use guns like shotguns or LMGs which simply rock cause you just hold down the button and crap.

Not to mention that veichles or simply repairing and caping points can be alot of help and alot of fun it's like playing a healer.

The hardest part is figuring out how you like to play games like BF there are soooo many different ways you can play BF3.

So if not rushing in is not working for you, you should try rushing in get a shotgun ot LMG rush in and hold down fire.

But yeah like some people have said people who have been playing FPS for years will have a significant edge over people who don't, don't worry about it.

You need to try different things in a FPS every time you play until you find one way where you don't die as much cause everyone always dies I've only had one BF3 game where I did not die and that was an exceptionm especially since the way I play I tend to die alot.

Also I find that singleplayer FPS of any kind makes me worse at multiplayer it sets up bad habits and crap i don't play singleplayer ever at all just can't do it.

but yeah, I love MMOs too It's definatly more relaxing. I miss alot of the older slower paced more social things in MMOs.