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Houston, i think we have a problem!
General Discussion « Lord of the Rings Online 4/07/07 9:18:49 PM
Originally posted by allegria I agree fully on this. There are plenty of MMO's who have had a SIMILAR structure(Guild Wars certainly has an overarcing storyline as you advance.. but it barely has other MMO elements supporting it =P), but I think LOTRO has really done a great job with the main quest line. To me, it is so much more fun to group up with people and "grow up" together advancing the story. Rather than everyone grind to 50/60/70 and then put on 40man raids at a giant monster every Monday night. Tuesdays we can zerg the BG's.. Wednesday we can pharm some gold =P I am sure we gotta wait a bit to see how the end game of LOTRO shapes up before I can fully take stabs at WoW, but I think the system is exponentially better :) |
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Good post. This game is very good at sucking people in who give it the chance :) |
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US Here.. and again.. only outskirts of cities and in cities. I remember in Vanguard beta there was a zone seam that I was locked up at literally 15 seconds, then slideshow for about 30 seconds, then somewhat OK... This was just getting in the general area of the first big city(for those who play/played.. it was a big downhill path that I am referring to.. near the bottom was slideshow world).
If I stand still or only move a few feet and wait, and spin around and let everything get caught up, I can get smooth frame rates for about 10 seconds in cities(going back to LOTRO here, if anyone is confused), but then when it has to draw a different region of the city it will start stuttering badly again until I wait it out. This again points to software issues. I am not totally complaining at Turbine by any means... MMO's have always had issues with this type of stuff. I just don't like the people in the community who assume I am a newb when I encounter these issues. I don't like the people that are getting this problem and pretending they are not. I also don't like that there isn't a whole lot in the KB or on the forums at LOTRO.com that says anything about this. I am well prepared to grin and bear it until I can get some massive upgrades. But even then there are still going to be weird stuttering issues that developers can't seem to work out yet(not just Turbine, everyone). It is just a little disheartening :/ |
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Originally posted by Radueriel 512mb of RAM will certainly not cut it, as far as smooth gameplay goes. 2GB seems to be the answer for a starting point. |
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I really think lotro is a good game but the combat does not look or feel right to me.
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 4/07/07 7:25:36 PM
Originally posted by AngelboundFirst off, there are no rangers in LOTRO.. There are hunters :) Now I am still just utterly confused at why you would think a minstrel or a hunter would be good at close combat! Champions, Guardians, and Burglars are the main melee classes. And Captains are pretty damn good as well(my favorite class). Minstrels are a versatile hybrid healer, but the main healer in the game. Loremasters are the perfect utility caster. Crowd control, healing, and nuking. Hunters are the ranged high DPS class. They really do take the place of wizards from EQ and DAoC, Shadow Priests/Mages in WOW, etc. I have summed up the classes briefly.. Champs are offensive melee, Guards are defensive. Burglars are stealth melee.. :) |
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Originally posted by Fifthred I just tried this.. And you know what happened? I got 15fps everywhere I walked, and still stuttered in cities. Rather than getting 45fps away from cities, and stuttering in cities. I am keeping the engine on High instead of VH for the time being. It seems to help a tiny bit.. But the fps limiter does not help in my situation. Still pissed about the "yeah I tried that, but really didn't" comment. Just because your configuration works well doesn't mean that all of us have easy fixes. |
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Various Links you can use for LOTRO.....
General Discussion « Lord of the Rings Online 4/07/07 7:06:15 PM
Nice list. I can't wait until the community really takes off. |
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I'd like to see what 2gigs of RAM would do for me, but I am not sure if it would help.
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Originally posted by Mars505 Lag is not the issue! Client stuttering is. It doesn't really matter. It isn't breaking the deal for me as I have said. This thread can only get ugly. Anyone from here who wants to come to my apartment and watch the performance issues, you are welcome to. If you don't believe me, that is fine. Just give me a few minutes to catch up if we have to run through a city together. |
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Houston, i think we have a problem!
General Discussion « Lord of the Rings Online 4/06/07 9:25:31 PM
Originally posted by JonMichael Yeah I have to agree mostly with your comments. It is very immersive and has me thinking back to my original time with DAoC. I just wish there were some more voiceovers =P And yes, I am very proud of the forum for not being trolly so far in this thread. Good show all.. I certainly will check out AoC when it is around, and if they give me a cushy spot in beta and it is enjoyable they could certainly steal me away :) |
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I really think lotro is a good game but the combat does not look or feel right to me.
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 4/06/07 9:01:36 PM
Originally posted by Angelbound Don't reactivate. They don't provide client downloads. I was stuck there as well at one point. You'll have to find someone with the disks or a torrent or something. |
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Originally posted by Meridion Well said. I think they have done a fine job preserving the lore while keeping the game fun and accessible. |
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Originally posted by FifthredI have taken it to the official forums. I am one of the few people actively discussing it there. My forum name is darkhawkcthulhu. They urge people to not use their login names as forum names, so I used an alternate name. Thanks for assuming I am just whining and not really trying anything. I have been battling with the game's performance since day one. In fact it is what inspired me to get back to my overclocking/tweaking roots. To stop being a lazy windows user and set up video card profiles and tweak a lot of settings. You have admitted you still slow down in cities. That is all I am talking about. Wretched framerates when there are lots of structures and/or players. You can't just say it is an MMO and it will happen. Solid frames everywhere else dropping to slideshow is a serious programming issue. If people don't complain about it, and take your attitude, the devs will never have any motivation to fix it :) |
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LOTRO: Four More Servers Announced
General Discussion « Lord of the Rings Online 4/05/07 6:24:39 PM
Nimrodel.... really? I wish I had waited to make my characters =P
And yes, the Vanguard cheapshot was pretty nice.. Good show. |
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Spore: take the leap and make it synchronous
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 4/05/07 6:21:47 PM
Originally posted by RAF-dood Ya'know EA let two games I enjoyed die... (Majestic and EnB) But I still don't blindly hate them. DAoC was also my first real MMO addiction and I am not freaking out that they own Mythic now... Am I being too easy on them? In the same vein I never got into AC1, mildly enjoyed AC2, and loathed D&D:O... But LOTRO is freaking amazing. If I automagically hated Turbine for their previous failures, I would have missed out on what is now my favorite MMO :) |
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Threads like this remind me that half of the reason I even browse forums is to remind myself of how stupid the average person on this planet really is.
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The troubleshoot panel has done little to no troubleshooting for me :)
I don't know why people insist on suggesting that. I have toyed with it plenty, and it has not helped. And in theory all it would do in the first place is let you make your entire LOTRO experience as slow as when you are getting the slow downs so you don't notice the jerkiness.. The real purpose of it is to let you try seeing how much a particular setting is affecting your overall framerate. This is also kind of stupid since I have yet to discover a way of displaying your current framerate(without the use of an external program of course). Part of me also thinks that quite a few people really don't realize how crappy the game is running at times, or are in denial that it is happening :) Either way I don't really care, I love the game too much to give up over this issue. I have accepted the toning down I have to do to make the game more enjoyable to play, knowing that the code will be optimized a bit further and I will upgrade later on anyway :) |
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Originally posted by Silens_Neco I am guessing that this is directed at the "WTF DO LOREMASTERS DO?" thread from earlier? |
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Sadly lots of people with good machines have stuttering issues in cities and areas with lots of people and/or structures.
It generally is bearable, and you learn to deal with it or find tricks to avoid some of it(look at the ground and use the minimap if it gets REAL bad =P). I know many games have had this problem at many stages of the history of MMO's in some form or another.. I just wish Turbine was a bit more open about this issue with the engine. There isn't really a knowledgebase entry about it, and nothing useful posted on the forums from the devs. It would be nice of them to compile a list of ways people have been fixing or atleast making the problem a bit more bearable(ie everyone says to defrag, turn of floaty names, post processing, the normal stuff.....). Also, asking for help from other players usually just gets you the "Buy more RAM, newb" response(if not the normal checklist of defragging, etc). This is fine, and if it reliably worked in all situations might be useful information, but then Turbine might as well up the REQ's and/or recommended system specs :) No MMO should require 2GB of RAM on top of a decent video card and processor, good system maintenance, and reasonable tweaking know-how just to get consistent frames.. </rant> That being said, anyone who sees my normal posting about LOTRO knows I am a borderline LOTRO fanboy already =P I just wish it would run better for everyone :) |
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/Agree
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