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Originally posted by safwd

Originally posted by TdogSkal

 

 

QFTW 

Someday maybe the WoW crowded will understand that WoW was not the first MMO ever.

 

W H A T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

You take that back right now. You are just a fool if you dont know that WoW was the first and Best MMO ever producted. UO, AC and EQ were just cheap knock offs of the all mighty WoW. In fact, im pretty sure WoW invented the whole idea of Elves, Dwarves and Gnomes, not to mention swords and armor.

10 MILLION PEOPLE CANT BE WRONG!!!!!

Sorry, i just had to do that. And no, they will probably never figure out that WoW is the essence of everything bad in the MMO genre.

I really hope that Darkfall comes out. I have never really played a PVP game let alone a FFA PVP game (i chose EQ over UO and AC) but the sandbox feel of Darkfall takes me back to the games of old. I really want that feeling back.

Thanks for the warning. I will see how far I get. :)

Ok, I'm downloading the client right now. I am mainly a PvE player, though I don't mind a little bit of PvP once in a while. I also like to roleplay.

Is Shadowbane a game for me, or is it just an all out gankfest? What servertype would you recommend? Is there any guild you could recommend?

I thought about playing either an Aelfborn, Shade or maybe a Nephilim. But I'm open for anything.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Originally posted by Guitano

 

Originally posted by 28days

Originally posted by Guitano

If you guys want freedom, why not just play Shadowbane for the time being?

or better yet - go play Asheron's Call on the Darktide server..   All these DF fanboys claim to love open pvp sandbox , no classes ,  skill based , but yet for some odd reason they're not playing AC1 darktide which is all that and has been since 1999....

It's actually pretty funny.. AC1 darktide is basically what DF wants to be... minus ship battles and mounts..  But yet nobody plays it...   should tell you what kind of road DF chose to head down..

 

Yes, there are still a few game out that offer this kind of game. It seems like all people want is graphics. There is no up to date mmo out with this style of game. Play somthing along the lines of SB, AC, a classic UO free shard.... somthing. What I really think is that SB and AC are to manly for some people.

Manly? Tell me, how old are you? 13? Maybe 14?

I let you in on a little secret just in case you didn't get it while playing your "manly" game...oops, I already said it. :) Right...it's a friggen GAME. If you want to be manly, why don't you join the Marines and fight the good war in Irak or Afghanistan or where ever else Dubya is going to start another war...But be warned, there is no "respawn" in the real world...

Seriously, you kids really always make me wanting to come back to this forum. There's so much fun to be had here... :)

Originally posted by forest-nl

Yes Darkfall will be by far most intresting and only game to play in future becouse almost all others are easy carebear and instance.

Yawwwwnnnn...

More elitist, stupid, mindless WoW-bashing. You guys hopefully realize, that just because you prefer PvP, that you are NOT "better" or any kind of more "l337" than anybody else who doesn't (or at least not exclusively)?

You hopefully also realize, that without the PvE crowd joining you in playing Darkfall, you probably have nobody to play (and gank) with?

Furthermore, do you guys even realize that your attitude towards PvE oriented people, really doesn't show you guys coming off as being mature? More like the 14 year olds you probably are. (My apologies if this is not the case nor the intention).

Trust me, I'd love to try DF, but I'm certainly a PvE oriented person (with occassional PvP sprinkled in here and there). That doesn't make me any "better" or "less" than you guys. It's just what I prefer. The attitude of some people here makes me want to think twice about playing this game.

Originally posted by Liquidvison

lol no worries, just dont want ya to hurt ur keyboard typing with rage lol :P

Hehe, na, it takes a little more than that to really make me angry. I just tend to get a little "evangelist" when I get confronted with the same old "arguments".

But yeah, lets forget that fruitless discussion. The point is that WAR needs to come out first, and then we can argue if it's worth porting to the Mac. :))

Hope it comes out soon, but then I rather give them the time to polish it. I'm almost to the point of drooling, I'd love to play one of those Darkelf Sorcerers/Sorceresses.

Originally posted by Liquidvison Now come on guys, some like mac and some like pc. No reason to make personal attacks supporting  a product and  company that you have nothin to do with lol

Sorry, didn't want to get overboard on that. My apologies.

Originally posted by Liquidvison

i (snip) i would still have to choose pc just for the fact they have access to all games availible

Actually with an Intel Mac you can now have the best of both worlds. Just boot in Windows, and presto, you can play all the games that haven't made it to the Mac OS. Not the best solution, but at least a solution that works.

Originally posted by Chip194

Arguing then patting yourself on the back for "only if they knew" may make sense if your in High School or finishing up that community college associates.   Back down to reality, sunshine. 

You obviously didn't get my point, but that's ok. Continue your Mac hating and continue to make a fool out of yourself, while more and more companies do see the reality and at least try to develop for the Mac as well. CCP is one of a few that started the trend, who can tell how many more will follow?

Originally posted by Liquidvison

well ive never used a mac or actually seen one operated so you guys lost me there lol

See, that's my point here. Most people don't have a clue about the Mac, but still give their "opinion" about Macs (Mac sux! Waaah!) Maybe they should try to use one before they start bashing it...just a suggestion. BTW, I've been using Macs since 1992, and almost never had to bother about a good game not coming to my platform of choice.

And yeah, I totally agree, Liquidvision. I would love to play WAR on a Mac. You probably will own me, since I really suck at PvP. ;)

Originally posted by Liquidvison

not argueing bro and i understand alot of people like the OS of macs better, but the OS of mac and PC are so dif that they cant make all games able to play on both...so they are gonna choose the more dominate system...imho they need to join together and make a cpu that has the best of both

Actually, we now have EVE on the Mac (sadly with out the Trinity high resolution graphics package, can't see why), thanks to Transgaming's technology that allows Windows games to be run under a wrapper that routes system calls to the Mac OS.

Not the most perfect solution, but it works. There is a folder called "c_drive" in the EVE package. And when you look inside it, you can see a "Program Files" folder with EVE in it and other assorted stuff. So, obviously there is an easy way of getting games on the Mac, maybe the WAR guys will see the light eventually as well. Who knows?

Originally posted by Chip194

"Something intresting : Did you know many Windows games are made on Apples/MACs? Strange isn't it?"

And every MAC needs an emulator to play PC games, it is strange, isnt it?

Hm, my Mac doesn't need one, strange isn't it?

Hm, funny that you say that. Why would a Mac NOT be made for online gaming? It has everything a Windows PC has (being that they now use almost the identical hardware), so why shouldn't it run all the games that a PC can?

And it actually can run those games, if you use Bootcamp. But I think that's not the point the OP was trying to make. We buy Macs for the OS, not (only) for their nice looks. And of course we would like the games to run under OS X as well. Because it is (IMHO) superior to Windows. But let's not argue about this. There's no point.

Game companies by large still don't understand just how many Mac users are out there. Except for Blizzard, that is. Why are they the only one? One reason might be that they hate Macs, but "hate" is a word that usually is not in the vocabulary of managers (except for Valve maybe). If it makes money than they will develop for it.

I think it's the same problem that game developers still don't see the a) adult market (people like me, which are at least 30 years old) and the b) women market. Most games are decidedly written for the male, adolescent market, leaving out literally millions of potential players (quite a few of them Mac owners.)

This needs to change. Will it ever? I don't know.

Oh yes, you're so right, that's why there's only millions and millions of them out there. Nobody uses them, and Apple is not one of the richest computer manufacturers out there...right...

I just think it's so funny when people absolutely have no clue, and have the nerve to say it out loud. ;)

I think I said it before, but I'll say it again. If everything the OP said will be in the final game, I certainly would give it a try. I don't know how long I could stand it (hell, maybe I love it), but I would try.

That said, I highly doubt it will ever come out. Cya in WAR or AoC...or whatever... :D

Good points Kaiphas, although we're probably talking about 8 million players, not 800... ;c)

WoW is such a success, because it is polished and easy to get into. That's why a lot of people (me included) play it, despite its shortcomings (grinding). I never understood the WoW bashing. But people tend to stand out, that's why it's in to bash WoW, because it is popular with the "unwashed" masses.

Me, I'm probably old enough that I no longer care what the "1337" folks say, I play what I like. ;c)

But I would love to give Darkfall a try, if it ever comes out, that is...

Originally posted by forest-nl
For me its other way around i dont get the punisment in real life so i want punishment in game robbed clean and laughed at.

Get real man its only a game, the funs is in open pvp games bordem comes when you play carebear games with no risk, all save play, when you start playing that kind of games,  your dead already:P

Exactly, that's my point. It's a game. I don't want games to punish me, I want to have fun. If you're enjoying games that punish you; well, enjoy them! And please, can we stop with that carebear crap? Just because I'm not too much in to Open PVP does not make you any better or 1337.

It's a game, remember? ;c)

Hm, reading your last paragraph I would like to say something to you. I don't want to come off as rude, but maybe if you're reaching 30, you will realize that not everybody has the 1337 Sk1lZ like a 13 year old. We do get older, slower, and we still want to enjoy games. That's why the click and fight variety of games (like WoW and many other games) is very popular. This just for your information.

Still I would say that the problem with twitch based combat games is not so much a problem that people don't want to play them, it is a very real technical issue. Lag has always been a problem in network based games, especially back in the 90s, when there were only 56K Modems. The problem is still here. How can you make a game world inhabited by 1000s of players that can literally fight each other at the same time and not expect to experience massive amount of lag?

This is a problem even with the regular point and click games, how bad is it in a twitch based game?

I think that the time is not right for games like this (i.e. Darkfall) When internet technology gets better and faster, we might see more twitch based combat games appear, but that will not happen for a few years to come. And then of course, these games will only appeal to a niche market of players, that love games just for being hard and punishing.

Me, I love demanding games, but I don't want to be punished and robbed clean AND laughed upon by my "peers". I can have that in real life. No, thank you. I rather have fun. :D

Hm...I don't see why this would make a difference. The screenshots DO look dated. Very dated. Nonetheless, I would still play this game, if they can pull of everything they are trying to achieve and the gank squads are not too obnoxious.

Originally posted by daarco

Yet, the computer games industry have gone passed music.....and are the way to go ahead of the movie industry as well. So saying DF wont have players.......thats a bit naive. 

Mind, I didn't say that it won't have ANY players, just not nearly as much as WoW.

My guess is it might reach around 100.000 players, that would be really good already.