46 - why would you ever stop unless you just can't play anymore or you no longer find it enjoyable. A couple bucks a month (i.e. $15.00) plus internet service...

...a better entertainment value than cable even...

Lost a year of my life to this game - would be fun to come back and try it for awhile...

Originally posted by Proto23

 I love WAR. It is made for me. T3 is a bit boring so far but if you have double rest XP its doable. I used to grind EQ so no problem there. But first I am going to play WotLK. When I am bored with that, I'll come back to WAR (I got a 6 months sub) and finish my lvl 27 WP and 20 WE.

 

See you later.

Same here (for the most part)...Actually the only reason I'm resurrecting my WoW account is because a number of people at work are playing WotLK...

...I find Warhammer more of my speed though - so I'm gonna keep both accounts.

Might as well chime in too...

I'm sticking with War for a couple of 40 toons. The overall speed of the game including leveling and actual combat works for me. I simply have fun - and that's really all I'm looking for.

/agreed

...just re-subbed myself and am having a great time. Great community!

...yes - I'm just starting out as well. It's slow, slow, slow - but once you let the pace of things just be as it is - it's kinda fun.

I would recommend getting the XBOX Controller Chat package for this game. I did it and I don't regret it. It basically comes with a headset (which you don't need for the game) and the qwerty keyboard that plugs into the controller. It really helps in the game, and it's a nice little piece of hardware to have regardless. It's got a nice backlit screen and can be useful for other games on the XBOX in the future.

I have yet to group up - only a level 6. But hopefully with the keyboard and maybe getting to around level 10 there will be more grouping activity. When I search for party members, there seems to be a few of them around all of the time - mostly in the low teens (level) and above...so when the time comes I think there will be people to group with...

...thanks for the info guys - gonna try that tonight!

Hiya,

...for the life of me I can't find out how to make my character sit down using the XBOX controller. Once I did it by accident, but I can't figure out how to do it again. I've poured through every screen on the interface and I can't find the 'sit' command...

...can someone clue a noob in (me) on how to do this?

Thanks a lot!!!!

...again, my hat's off to the TR design team. I just got done with my first foray into the Divide and just searching for the first 3 logos in that area is spectacular (to say the least)!

Even though the logos are marked on the map it is still a really nice challenge to find them. And along the way you come across just some excellent and refreshing map design elements that are just plain fun, and very well done.

I got lost searching for the 'Friend' logos and ended up on some cliff walls. My character ended up going upwards along the side of a cliff bank and I stumbled across a stellar screen shot of a sort of redish planet in the sky. An absolute delightful surprise to say the least.

Anyway - thanks a bunch! Having a blast!

Dang - good job guys...

...sure pretty much the standard fare elements as far as MMO's go; crafting, leveling, etc. MMOs are built on these mechanics. If you're playing an MMO, these are the base building blocks of this particular style of computer game. Complaining about these elements in any MMO is like complaining that all the new cars have steering wheels.

"...when will a car come out with something besides a steering wheel!!???? meh... I'm going back to driving my Pinto..."

...of course if a new MMO comes out and it doesn't have any of these elements, then there will be a set of people who complain about this as well.

Given the genre and mechanics we have to work with in this day and age, with regards to MMO's; I say great job TR team -- dang...

Really nice instances with thought and great design elements behind them. They remind me already of some of the great WoW instances and I've only been in the lower level ones in TR so far.

Excellent terrain designs with creative ways of dividing up territory. You actually have to explore around to get to know the map and how to get to different points.

 Nice ways of integrating the instances with the map and overall map navigation.

I'm not sure we're ever going to see something truly 'revolutionary' in the MMO genre for awhile yet. Maybe we will, I'm not sure. As far as TR goes, I'm pleasantly surprised and having fun and I can see and feel the tremendous amount of work that went in to this title. You guys should be proud. You've just earned my $50.00 and my monthly fee for as long as I'm having fun!

Thanks again and Kudos!

I hope NetDevil really does well with this. Shutting down AA by NCSoft is a shame and I hope developers like NetDevil can start to publish/host their own games. C'mon NCSoft - gimme a break - you're shutting down AA and hosting Dungeon Runners??? Bah....

Anyway kudos to NetDevil - and good luck. I'm an EvE player but if JG delivers I'm hoping on board. Please make this release Vista compatible!!!!!

Originally posted by Vantras

Interestingly enough "getting a beefier ship" quite simply isnt all that necessary in EVE-at least not in the traditional MMO sense.

People come to EVE and see "Battleship" and figure all roads lead to moving directly toward battleship as soon as possible.  Gotta upgrade, upgrade, upgrade.  This is patently untrue in EVE.  Many players get off the upgrade ship treadmill and chose a class of ships they enjoy and just go deeper and deeper into that particular skill set.

For example there are interceptor pilots in my alliance that pretty much fly 100% intys, cov ops etc.  Theyve focused nearly all of thier skill points on small guns, navigation skills, targeting skills, etc. etc.  All designed to make them the best inty pilots in EVE.

We have some traders that can barely undock a ship yet they have 7 million trading skill points.

We have some combat pilots that focus 100% on recons, or 100% on battleships etc etc.  There is no doubt as you stay in the game longer and get more and more skillpoints that the option to fly more ships presents itself.  But to start EVE and immediately place your self on a treadmill toward bigger bigger bigger ships is the best way to wind up hating the game.

Get to destroyers, or cruisers, or battlecruiers and then stop.  Look at your skills that you use to fly those ships and go deeper and deeper into them.  Focus on the guns, navigation, drones, armor repping etc.  You can run level 3 missions in a well fitted cruiser.  Level 3's with ease in a battlecruiser.  You can be an effective PVP pilot in virutally anything once you learn your role.

There is no compelling reason to grind isk just to get bigger ships.  There is a compelling reason to grind isk for modules/gear etc..being rich in EVE has its benefits. 

Also i would suggest going to the eve-online.com forums and viewing all the forums.  There are so many careers you can have in eve. All these careers of course are self defined and you can mix and match them. 

 

Quickly they are : traditional miner, moon miner, tech2 components trader, trader, builder, inventor, pirate, anti pirate, foot solider in a major alliance, fleet commander in a major alliance, mission runner, roleplayer, explorer/complex runner, there are of course a million sub categories and probably many ive just overlooked.

in pvp you can be a tackler, an electronics warfare specialist, a scout using cov ops, a recon pilot, a prober, a heavy battleship pilot, a supporting gun ship pilot, and many other roles.  You can use your pvp skills to build a region as an alliance member, to fight major alliance battles, or to pirate and stalk innocents.  There is no end to the paths.

Sorry you burned out a bit...consider your time in EVE, try and throw out the traditional MMO treadmill mentality, identify the parts of EVE you enjoyed and then come back!

oh...and do get in a corp/alliance.  Spend time in the recruitment channel and on the recruitment forums.  There are many many options available.

Amarr Victor

This is a really good response to this post, and exactly what I've (personally) been doing for the last couple of months. The depth of which you can approach the various ship types, skills, and fittings is an entire game unto itself.

For example it will probably take me another month or so of training to get to fly a Battleship. I could certainly go that direction, but I really want to train up my industry and mining skills so I can fly the next level of mining ship. So there is a tradeoff and decisions to be made. What this means is I'm stuck in a BattleCruiser class ship, flying in 0.0 space (where my corp is located), and trying to be effective. Through experience I've found that there is no limit to what you can do to be effective in this situation, if you are willing to play a mmorpg for what it is, a social game to play with other people.

For instance I can fit up for damage assistance, or remote repairing (did someone say 'healer'), or a webber, or capacity drainer/supplier, or salvager, or loot runner, or any other of a number of different support roles. This is of course if you go out hunting, or ratting with a partner.

As far as going solo with a BattleCruiser in 0.0 space, no I can't bring down a rat worth 900,000 isk - but I can bring down one worth 300,000 isk, and only after a month of tweaking, studying what was available for the BattleCruiser, was I able to do this. When I first tried I'd have to run away immediately. But after researching all of the different mods, fittings, and skills that were possible; you can refine even the most modest of ships into effective vessels for their particular situation.

Of course you have to enjoy this kind of stuff, and you have to be patient, and you have to just not want everything right away. If you get the biggest ships rights away - yawn.....(and also with the skill system the way it is it would take you awhile to properly equip them).

Again - great post Vantras - there is an incredible amount of gameplay into just going deeper, and deeper into what's already available to you. And while you're doing that - you're earning isk for the next level of ship or skill or whatever, which provides a whole other realm of depth, when you reach that point...   

Originally posted by khaibit
Just to add something to the above, only fit warp stabbers if you intend to run without fighting back. Warp stabbers now completely nerf your targetting, so if you have them fitted run without trying to lock and fight, because you would be at a severe disadvantage if you do. Stabbers also mean that it would make ratting a bit more annoying and slower for you, so what I would do is make sure that you have an MWD fitted, keep your eye on local and run and hide if someone jumps in, instead of fitting a WCS.

Thanks everyone! Great advice. Gonna try some of it right after the patch. And yes...I intend to run like a wussy for right now to just kind of get an idea of how things go in lower sec space. I haven't hooked up with a corp yet so I want to take things slow and just get the feel for things. Ratting in .4 space right now is worth it just for the loot, at my level. I can handle the rats okay - it's just the pirates that tend to make me cry lately...

Thanks again!

Hi,

I've been venturing out into .4 space lately to try my hand at salvaging some higher level rats. I've been doing okay. I've had my share of success and my share of getting my spaceship blown to bits...

...my question is - what is the best way to counter getting warp scrambled? Is it by fitting warp stabilizers? If so - should you fit more than one on a ship? Is this helpful? or should you just train up the warp drive operation skill in addition to fitting warp stablizers?

For right now I just simply want to bail if I get attacked out there. I've tried to fight once or twice but I just don't have what it takes right now to fight back. I just want to bail like a sissy and keep my loot (if i can)...

Thanks in advance!

 

For masochists that love to fly the best looking ships, dont want to buy ammo and can live with ships that  suck big time .. go Amarr

 

Originally posted by Barrow

Originally posted by fgauer
I also haven't ventured out much further than TASH-MURKON to see what's available. Part of it's just paranoia at this point because I'm not at a level yet where I want to take much risk.

First of all, get rid of that "not at that level" mentality, it's only a hindrance to you and will only server to limit your potential. Sure there are players that know alot more about the game than you and you might never reach their "level" but taking chances is fun in EVE.

Actually I'm going to take you up on this advice. You are correct - I'm probably playing things too conservative and I should risk it a bit to see what happens.

The manufacturing has been working surprisingly well. I took advice from this thread and started manufacturing missles. It's been a good way to learn about the ores and get a good primer into how the economy actually functions. I'm actually making a profit as well, albeit small. But it's a good start and I'm learning the ropes and how the whole rythm of research, manufacturing, trade, and selling goes.

I've never played primarily a crafter - but in this game it's fun. There are so many nuances to the economy. Just a single jump into another region can literally double your profits. And this just still in high sec space.  Also some of the newbie raw ores sell surprising well and and the variations you can put on your sell orders really makes a difference.

...could actually just sit back and manufacture /sell for a long-time and have a great time at it!

Originally posted by Szark

 Eve Online is not a computer game....

Read the full article in the New York Times here.