Trending Games | Elder Scrolls Online | Guild Wars 2 | Crowfall | H1Z1

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,931,225 Users Online:0
Games:764  Posts:6,340,227
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

All Posts by GungaDin

All Posts by GungaDin

7 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 »
136 posts found

In regards to RG being acting in an unethical manner.

(1) Portalarium obviously cost money to establish.  I didn't pay for that.  Did any of you? NO.  RG created it.

(2) 2.5 mil is obviously not enough to fund this entire project.  Where is the other funds coming from?  Ummm....Portalarium and RG.

(3) 2.5 Mil will not get you into space

No other game creator has been this passionate about his vision.  Chris Roberts and Fargo have impressed me (backed WL 2 and SC).

But RG's interaction with the community, visiting fan sites, live interviews, and showing up to google hangouts at backers' requests has been 2nd to none.

I do not see, in anyway, that he is exploiting the community or backers. 

Question of RG's Integrity has been answered.  Move on.  Thank you.


Ahh...let me just end this entire rant.

Housing was known to be rare and require $$$ as a main source of crowd funding before and during the kickstarter.  This fact was never hidden. 

If not having a house/plot at the start of the game is the main turnoff for you, then don't pledge.

If the rest of the content and options (excluding having a house/plot) is enough for you to enjoy the game, then pledge.

You will be able to acquire a house and plot in game.  It may be rare at first and costly, but the option will be there.  Also, as the game develops (Episodes 1-5) , more and more land will open up for purchase.

Ok, housing has now been cleared up.  Complaints about housing can now end.  Thank you.

Originally posted by InsaneMembrane

Hello Everyone,

I am a member of the Shroud of the Avatar Community and a member of the developer+ community within. I believe you all have the right to know and understand where this information comes from. I was recently banned from the SotA community for my opinions on this(amongst other things), so I hope that it reaches you here.

This information has not come directly to Colin by any official Shroud of the Avatar/Portalarium capacity. The persons Colin has spoken with were an off the cusp, rushed selection of two women whom are friends with the Shroud of the Avatar Community Manager, Gina.

The rest of the Dev+ community wasn’t given an opportunity or heads up on this, the two users who spoke here to Colin said it was “very rushed” due to a “deadline” and that they themselves were not ready for it even.

“…I’m no more ‘privy’ to facts than anyone else.” – Fireangel(Tina)

“Starr did not screen anything and didn’t even have any idea what my opinion on housing is…” – Lori

I do know plenty of people on the forum(both dev and non-dev) who have better ideas, opinions, and experience with housing than the two people selected. Those points could have been presented to the interviewer to enrich that article in any number of ways.

There is more on my blog. Peace.




I give up trying to explain housing.   The DEVs can handle this.  Adios....

Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by Karble


this is the link the the article most recently from the creators of Shroud of the Avatar.

It is one thing to try and sway the avid fanbase of the various avatar games over the years into purchasing virtual (see pixy dust) space to place a house in a semi-protected area of an online community that has not happened yet. It's another to try and now tell new people that are interested that "hey....better pay now or you will not have a home since they are limited" which only adds to this pixy dust house of cards.


I am not saying that the game itself will be good or bad. Just that there are alot of people in real life spending LITERALLY THOUSANDS of DOLLARS to have a house (pixy dust) in a virtual world. 


Where has common sense gone? Seriously......ugh.  I am a fan of UO and played it for several years, but I will be the last to throw my hard earned money into developing any game unless they will be splitting the profit with me.


Oh they are not splitting the profit with people that have invested 3K into the game? hmm well at least you get a pixy dust house :P

I was a fan in the old days but have realised he is just trying to achieve what Chris Roberts has done with the SC game and for me he's not even close to the mark and I have not and will not support this game as I feel he's way off the mark with this game and it looks horrid and IMO it will fail because he's not got the talent to pull this off.

Chris Roberts has set a president by what he has done and everyone else feels they can do the same, but you need the ability and talent to do this and again IMO he cannot compete and this is just to fill his pockets to allow us to subsidise his dreams as he's unable to finance it through other means as others have seen what he has to offer is pants...


SC has the advantage of being part of a less used Genre.   Not many space MMO's / worlds.   Swords, shields and orc have been used to death.  Even I wasn't sure about backing another D&D based game again.  It was much easier for me to back SC just because it involved something different (space ships lol).

Really don't know what else to say.  

There isn't 50-75 mil in funding to make UO2 and provide housing to everyone.  

It was known from the beginning of kickstarter that housing would be rare and at a premium.

Housing was used as a source of fundraising.   Good or bad idea?  That is what they went with.  No way to change that or go back on that choice.  

If housing is your main concern (and your not willing to wait for more housing options), then don't pledge.  If you are more interested in the story, lore, crafting, PvE, PvP, old school conversation system or some other  aspect of gameplay (and like what you see), then pledge based on that. 

24,000 houses on multiple servers is not gonna happen with 2.5 mil in funding.  Do any of you know how much an MMO costs to produce these days?  Have to be realistic here.


Originally posted by chaintm
Originally posted by GungaDin  "Kind of like star citizen selling $1000 ships..."

Sadly you are way off, Star Citizen Ships are just ships that can be gained in game by ANYONE with in game resources. Buying the ships prior to launch allows the following...


- you can play with the ship at launch

- your investment gives you insurance that you can also buy in game as well

- everything in star citizen (EVERYTHING) can be gained by just playing the game.


So why I can see why one might "think" it's the same , it is not. Anyone can buy the 30.00 ship and get everything others will start with that paid more , you are at that point just buying the game.

All items again can be gotten in game by playing and nothing more is needed no real cash ever! You can however use a store and do so if you wish but only for cosmetic items which can also be gained by currency made in game. So the differance there is there is no "cash only" option for Star Citzen in any aspect of the game. There is "when it launches" an option again to use real life cash for cosmetics, but you never have to and if you don't it doesn't mean you can never get them unlike other games where it's cash only for certain cosmetics, SC will never have this.

I Just want to clear this up that only 2 other games I know in development are going with this "Real cash only " concept ... Power Monger and Pathfinder.

I meant that it would be difficult to earn that ship in game, it will be rare just like housing.  However, u can earn housing in SotA as well. I believe neither game is pay to win (as a backer for both)

If housing is such an issue for people, go play Housing Online or something.  Owning property is not a majority of the content.   Housing is their fundraising plan.  Did they have other options?  I don't know what was discussed during the creation process, but that is what they have gone for. 

Housing is rare just like a $1000 ship in star citizen.  I may never own a plot of land or that mega ship, but it won't stop me from playing the game. I'll just explore with my Aurora or live out of an Inn.

Originally posted by Swedish_Chef
Originally posted by GungaDin
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by GungaDin

A house / plot of land is not needed to play the game.  Its just extra fluff.

Strongly disagreed. In a theme park game maybe, but not in a sandbox game.

To me, housing in a sandbox is an essential part of the game.

I played UO without a home for over 1.5 yrs.  It was not "essential" to gameplay.  Plus, as in UO, you can be friended to homes or have access to guild establishments. 

Housing does not = sandbox. 

Sandbox is considered an open free roaming world.  Player housing is not part of the criterium. 

Correction: It wasn't essential to you.

Sorry, but I'm also of the opinion that home ownership is a near-essential part of games like this.

I wouldn't mind so much about land being sold for real cash if it were just certain high-demand areas such as waterfronts, big city suburbs, etc. However with land being a finite resource and every single parcel available for RL cash, they're essentially locking people out of a chunk of content from the get-go because they're not wealthy enough IRL to pay for it. To me, this is absolutely inexcusable. I didn't contribute to this game for some pay-to-win cash grab, I contributed because I wanted a worthy successor to the Ultima series.

If this decision isn't reversed, then I will be contacting the appropriate parties to have my contribution refunded. This isn't what I signed up for, and sure as hell isn't the kind of garbage I want to support.

Get a clue.  They can not afford 24,000 houses.  They don't have the funding to support the servers or required resources.  Star Citizen has 19 mil vs 2.5 for SotA..

Anyone can own a house (via in game currency), its just very rare.  Just like that $1000 ship.  Good luck earning that in SC.  As a backer of SC, I don't have any issues with them offering 1k ships.  It supports the game.  Why can't people see housing in SotA the same way?


Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by GungaDin

A house / plot of land is not needed to play the game.  Its just extra fluff.

Strongly disagreed. In a theme park game maybe, but not in a sandbox game.

To me, housing in a sandbox is an essential part of the game.

I played UO without a home for over 1.5 yrs.  It was not "essential" to gameplay.  Plus, as in UO, you can be friended to homes or have access to guild establishments. 

Housing does not = sandbox. 

Sandbox is considered an open free roaming world.  Player housing is not part of the criterium. 

A house / plot of land is not needed to play the game.  Its just extra fluff.  You can decorate it, place trophies in it, meet with friends or craft from within your house (instead of using a public crafting station).  

You are basically paying for convenience.  They have said that you will be able to friend others to your house as well, for friends that couldn't afford to purchase their own.

Why have limited housing at a premium?  Kind of like star citizen selling $1000 ships.  They have decided to use it as a main source of crowd funding.  If someone wants to pledge $10,000 for a castle, fine with me.  It gets the game developed, improves the game and I can just reap the benefits of increased funding entering the game.  

If housing is breaking point for you, then I can understand if you would be turned off by this avenue of crowd funding.  However, housing and owning a plot is not the main source of content of the game.  There are tons of MMO's that do not offer housing of any kind, just a bank or cargo hold  

Each house they render costs money and time.  I remember reading that in Star Citizen, some ships cost $35,000 to render.  They hope to make that back with some added profit to put back into the game.

The overall main objective is to get funds into the game.   

If for instance they only offered a $30 pledge tier at launch, without any higher tiers (housing etc) X 24,000 backers = about 750k.   250k short of the 1mil needed to fund the project.  Hence, the game would never gone to development and we would have no new game to look forward to.  

The higher tiers and housing have helped fund this game.  Not everyone will be able to own a house, but this game is not an MMO about owning a house and decorating it.  Its about exploring and adventuring in a new land created by Richard Garriott. 

How many adventurers are just gonna sit in their house all day?  Its not gonna be the main focus.   

Plus, as the game progresses, more land will open up and more room for housing with it as well.

Originally posted by Torvaldr
There is an irc channel and a web client on the site.  The web client is a little fragile and it's easy to click away and have to reload.  That happened to me several times to the amusement of the channel. :p  They seem to be a very friendly group and welcoming of newbs and visitors.

They are using a Selective Multi-player setup.  Its hard for me to explain all the ways you can play the game.  I'd recommend just checking out the main site for how it will work. 

Basically, when you play online your going to be participating with a pool of players (Friends, PVPers, Guild Mates) People you have selected.   You won't see all 10,000 people on one server, maybe a few hundred with the same likes as yourself.   Villages, Towns and Cities will always remain on SotA servers.  So when you enter those areas, player houses in a specific town will always be there when you log in to it.

I believe Star Citizen is following a similar concept. 

In addition to being playable as a single player offline game, SotA is expected to have three unique network play styles:[2]

  • Single Player Online (SPO)
  • Friend Party Online (FPO)
  • Open Play Online (OPO)

Single Player Online (SPO) mode allows the user to receive updated content whilst exploring the world without external user interaction. Players in this mode will be able to see content from other players, such as houses and vendors, but will not be shown interaction options with other player characters. Friend Party Online (FPO) allows for the user to elect to see players the person is familiar (i.e. 'friends'), or other individuals they have explicitly stated they wish to share game-space. Open Play Online is similar to a traditional MMORPG model, but a ranking system is used to display any and all relevant player character options to each individual user. The details of this ranking system are not yet made public, but has been described as showing 'dozens to maybe hundreds' of external actors in the player game-space.

Players may play from any computer if they elect an online mode of play, suggesting that their character information will be hosted by Portalarium. Offline single player modes will not have this feature, nor will offline characters be allowed to switch to online modes of play. Online modes of play can be switched from SPO, FPO, and OPO anytime a player is within a settlement such as a village, town, or city. These options will not be available whilst a player is within an instance or active content.[3]

Additionally, players utilising the online modes of play will be able to participate in player to player transactions, group finding, patching, streaming of dynamic content, and exploit prevention.[2]

Yes is has WASD movement.

I've been a backer since the kickstarter and I'm very pleased with the progress.  One other factor is the interaction between the Developers and the community.  No other game has made as much effort to include the community.  Weekly live dev chats and an Artistic Show (Pen of the Avatar) really makes you feel like your part of the creation process.

The entire staff at Portalarium are top notch and ooze class.   Community liaison Firelotus gives 100% to reply to emails and help with any technical issues.  Its not only about a game, but about the bond you start to form with the Developer Team.  This is probably the main factor that got me to pledge at a high level. 

The Demo really highlights the effort to make a unique gaming experience and avoid the term "clone" being applied to its description.


One word to describe the game.......Different.

**** Just go to   and watch the videos.  They put out some more of the demo with a developer chat.

Well I spent 2800 gems on keys because of course all i had were chests.  Opend up about 40 and got no weapon skins.  I feel cheated to be honest.  Your better off trading in the gems for gold and buying the skins from someone else.  What a wasted and now I have a bad taste in my mouth.  I was so excited about the event and now I just feel horrible.  Oh well right? 

I think the info was spot on .  The main thing you should take from this, the questing / leveling seems to go by effortlessly.  You really don't feel a grind like you do in most games.  Plus you can gain xp from the warzones as well.  



Originally posted by whilan


Hey guys,

I'd like to provide a little clarification as to why we have locked a recent post (and will continue to lock posts along the same vein) as the thread asking if should remove Star Wars: The Old Republic from its game list. The simple fact is, if it is on our game list, it has met our criteria for being an "MMOG" and that's that. So as far as is concerned, Star Wars: The Old Republic is an MMOG.

Now, with that said, you are more than welcome to discuss and debate whether or not Star Wars: The Old Republic will resemble what is traditionally known as an MMORPG, but we are not going to entertain threads that posit this question simply to troll these forums and incite a reaction from users here looking forward to the game.

In fact,  in the interest of avoiding clutter, all discussions pertaining to whether or not Star Wars: The Old Republic is a traditional MMOG or not should be directed to this thread and this thread alone going forward.

Thanks for your understanding!


Thats from MikeB, if you have reasons to believe it's a single player game take it up with Mike. Otherwise can we leave it be and talk about the differences between SWG and SWTOR and not the massive of the game.

I agree that it shouldn't be removed from your list.  But if people are questioning its status on the list, doesn't that say something about the game?  Its a MMO but not much of one..

Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by GungaDin
Originally posted by whilan
Originally posted by GungaDin

How will it differ? Its very simple.  Your going from a MMO to a single player game.

Incorrect. Please read the faq or the feature list. Thanks.

No, I am correct.  Not one of my friends (100's that play varying MMO's for the past 13 yrs) believe this game to be more than a single player story.  I'm not sure if any of them are gonna even try it, very sad but true.

Saying you are 'correct' and offering nothing to back it up other than 'my 100s of friends!' is going to convince no one.

At this point, I think you are trolling.

Put up some evidence to the contrary if you have something otherwise, you come across as someone who is just pulling facts out of thin air.

By the way, there is a sticky regarding this topic, so read it.

Honestly, i'm not going to list everything we spoken about countless hours in vent, via icq etc.  Based on all the videos, information they have released and updates, our conclusion is that this game has serious issues when it comes to producing an open world where you need to be in a group or guild to achieve goals.  

The guilds i'm in see no reason to start a guild in this game.  Simple as that. If I don't need friends to help with content or progress in the game, then its just a single player game charging a monthly fee for content.  I honestly don't have one gamer friend looking forward to this game.

Originally posted by whilan
Originally posted by GungaDin

How will it differ? Its very simple.  Your going from a MMO to a single player game.

Incorrect. Please read the faq or the feature list. Thanks.

No, I am correct.  Not one of my friends (100's that play varying MMO's for the past 13 yrs) believe this game to be more than a single player story.  I'm not sure if any of them are gonna even try it, very sad but true.

How will it differ? Its very simple.  Your going from a MMO to a single player game.

General Discussion « Rift
2/02/11 6:22:07 PM
Originally posted by Zairu

why not instead type an informative post of the games features that you feel are so grand, which would help those of us curiously looking at the game.

why is it so great that it inspires you to lash out at those who just want to hate it?

that would be way better than the pong joke.


i hit most rift topics, regardlessof the title. so maybe you should work more at making the community 'not' look like 12 year old douchebags.

Perhaps this is the best post yet.  Do you really need to do a detailed analysis of another WOW clone?  Why waste the time?  The original poster hit the nail right on the head.  I agree with all his points :)

7 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 »