Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

Where did you get these figures from?

 

 

I did a search, but im struggling to find set figures for game sales, all im getting press editorials. I'd be interested to read the set sale records.

That said, its been common knowledge that Console game sales have been surpassing PC game sales for decades. And as was said in the video, the newest reason for a lapse in PC game sales is the culture of downloading games from torrent.

I download movies, music, but ive never downloaded a game. Purely becuase I know that downloading games is jeapodising the industry and the quality of future games. Bleh.

I doubt Torrenting is going to be completely tackled, and even if it is there are other methods of downloading, so the only way this is going to go for PC gaming is with MMO's.

 

Watch the video in original post.

And well. If you still do not understand.

 

Let say development of PC game costs 40 million dollars. They sell the games for 50 million (and they count themselves lucky)

Development of XBOX game costs 40 million dolars. They sell the game for 100 million (and they say they did so-so)

 

Now perhaps i am the dumb one. But if i had a development company , i would not even consider PC development with such figures.

 

And , if anything we all know game producers are not big risk takers

I opened this thread expecting to see a debate on the European Union, how disapointed I was to find its this game.

Probably not a good idea to use abbreviations that are used by a country in topic titles. Im sure if you used "USA" people would be asking  "WTF???".

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Uh...it is hard to explain things to average reader of mmorpg.com

No PC games are not dying because the games of 2007 were crap. THEY WERE GREAT (At least singleplayer ones)

PC gaming is dying because:

COD4 xbox sold 1.000.000 copies in 1 week

COD4 PC sold 300.000 copies alltogether

Where did you get these figures from?

I did a search, but im struggling to find set figures for game sales, all im getting press editorials. I'd be interested to read the set sale records.

That said, its been common knowledge that Console game sales have been surpassing PC game sales for decades. And as was said in the video, the newest reason for a lapse in PC game sales is the culture of downloading games from torrent.

I download movies, music, but ive never downloaded a game. Purely becuase I know that downloading games is jeapodising the industry and the quality of future games. Bleh.

I doubt Torrenting is going to be completely tackled, and even if it is there are other methods of downloading, so the only way this is going to go for PC gaming is with MMO's.

Oh what you can do when your a military & economical super power...

None, your all a bunch of wierdo's.

Do a disk cleanup, temporary and pre-installation files can take up quite abit if you dont clear them freaquently.

Originally posted by HoldMe

Like he ^ said.  Makes no sense now to buy a 8800GT when you can pick up a new G92 based GTS board.

Then again you said you're willing to spend $450, so I'd just wait a few weeks.  Tech sites are already receiving their new 9600GT reference cards and it sounds like Nvidia is still planning to do a February release so I'd just hold off a bit more.

Get a 8800GT, I just upgraded to one, its a great card I plan to SLI later. Very economical too.

Im giving the game a go, quite enjoying it. Although im not convinced I should hand over my cash for it.

SoE have yet to release a finished* MMO. Perhaps Agency could be the first?

*as in bug free, no missing content, some end game, stable.

Your missing the point completely.

Nobody is saying adding a race based on African Physiology is bad.

I think the only place your going to find something like this is in a browser based game.

Warhammer has lore thats been written decades ago, everything they put in now, they do so at the whim of Games Workshop.  Even if they wanted to, Mythic couldnt make the decision to add a race of african physiology.

This is something you need to to take to Games Workshop.

Originally posted by Lesrach

I dont understand why so simplified class system when paper and pencil version offers +50 basic careers, +20 advanced careers, +15 different unique gods, 6 diffrent careers for magic and their 8 colleges... Now WH was there before WoW(I have been playing WHFRP 18yrs) but Warhammer online feels like Warcraft online.. I want this game to succes but for me this over simlified Warhammer is a disappointment.

Oh and the fact it wouldnt be out until 2010 if it had 50 classes...

If you guys setup an IRC channel, I'd be all over that...

I used to frequent irc.sorcery.net #warhammeronline

You can say the rules over there are just as anal...

I also recall AO added a perk system before WoW hit the shelf, it works to the same degree as the WoW talent system if a little less complex.

Well to be honest the game would be pretty bland if it didnt include some form of specialization. We know classes arent skill based, every goblin squigg herder has the exact same skills, they need atleast some way to add customization and uniqueness.

Besides, WoW's Talent system is a copy of D&D's Feat system. MMO's evolve, stop going off on these "zomg they copied" rants...

*typo

Asking if people "think" something will be factual is an interesting way to phrase your question.

If  you want an informative answer I'd definately seek revision.

My answer is dont presume anything. Wait for a information from Mythic which after a quick google there doesnt appear to be any.

Originally posted by sh4dowst4lkr

 

Originally posted by godpuppet

I wouldnt pay $9.99 for this POS.

 

Harsh, I sorta like this game because they endevoured to do something different, straying from dwarves, elves, orcs and pixies, I still long for a great ranged modern combat MMO, and Stargate Worlds is a year off, I just don't know what to play anymore.

Play EVE, thats different.

I wouldnt pay $9.99 for this POS.

Interesting Idea, looking at this logically, you'd need to break it down into categories, PVP and PVE.

Looking at PVP first im going to base my assumptions on an emphasis of realism. I presume there will be no healing during battle, this would encourage players to work together as a unit and band together in numbers. Instead of risking it alone.

Then we have a load of Zergs running around, which results in only noobs and the daring soloing it. Battles are large and involve numerous players.

Perhaps the Devs could then add some kind of group formations...

Phalanx - All players in the unit use a great shield and a short sword. They advance in the greek hoplai style, their shield covering their body and reliant on the man to the right. This was employed by romans, in early Medieval eras, warriors learnt to use this tactic and both sides would advance until shield clashed and it became a mass pushing, spitting and biting match.

Spearwall - Counter against Cavalry?

Thats all that comes off the top of my head, but hell, I'd definately give the game a try.

As far as PVE goes, it could be much more flexible, from cave raiding with monsters inside, to simple quests to kill encroaching hordes.

I think a morale system like LOTRO would work best, not hitpoints.

Its an interesting concept, as long as the game doesnt turn into the mass ridiculous battles that hollywood likes to churn out (braveheart, last samurai etc).