First, read this thread: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=300968

Then watch this video in which person is trying to sell leftover items made by the person in the thread above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNu0awEQ-4Q

Then, watch mods like AjentOranj do their "job" like clueless mindless robot that he is, while AV ignores 9th account on NA1 to be hacked w/out doing anything even when the community pretty much gave them the hackers on the the platter: http://darkfallinfo.com/pmap/index.php?mapserver=us1&page=claninfo&uid=0x6bf6a5d9

 

I honestly have no idea what this article is talking about.  Real money in EVE? huh?

Somehow I feel like the "PVP" part in this "PVP" article was left out....

Originally posted by Yalexy

 

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Originally posted by Drvanitus
Disappointing.  Why resources only?  Why not everything else that's not equipped?  So killing people that don't do any harvesting (such as myself) will be pointless and fruitless.

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There's nothing else then raw ressources in this game actually. There won't be any gear dropping from NPCs etc. All gear has to be crafted from said harvested ressources and that's why you can only loot those ressources.

All equipment as said allready decays over time and takes a bigger hit if you die. The whole purpose of this game is FvFvF warfare about the ressources with anything else just being added as an afterthought. The whole PvE-content is only there to have something to do while not engaged in PvP. There won't even be any balancing for PvE.

So yeah, basically it is full loot, as there's nothing else then ressources ^^

Well, if that's true, than I'm in.  Devs should calrify. 

A small chance to drop a single equipped item would also be super awesome, even if it's much less than 50%, even if it's a 5% that you drop one item.

So no full loot in this game? Or any loot?

Originally posted by Jostle

Originally posted by Drvanitus

Disappointing.  Why resources only?  Why not everything else that's not equipped?  So killing people that don't do any harvesting (such as myself) will be pointless and fruitless.

There are a few reasons for this. For one, while they (Pitchblack Games) have said that they are targetting this game to be a niche MMO, it doesn't seem like the FFA, full loot niche is the one they're looking at. FFA games and pvp games with full loot can work if the game is designed for it, but this game is not.

Even if you don't personally harvest resources, you will be taking them off enemies that you kill. Crafted items in this game are going to be better than any others, and the advancement of technology and the requisition of resources are the key ingredients to getting a leg up on the other faction. Items will eventually loose durability and will have to be replaced. This makes resources valuable. Also, PBG have stated that they'd like to encourage players bartering with resources more than other games, rather than just using in-game money for everything.

While I understand the excitement behind full loot systems, I'm not a fan of them, and you have to admit it takes a certain kind of player to enjoy that system. Devs can't please everyone.

Well, I'm not looking for 'full loot' (which would be very cool).  But if you bring 2 sets of armor and weapons and whatnot so that you can switch up and give yourself an advantage depending on the situation, you should lose whichever gear set you are not currently wearing.  AoC had resource drop on PVP kills, and that was a massive fail, although resources seem to play a lot larger role in Prime, so there is still potential there, I hope looting of resources are going to be enough of a incenitive to engage people in open world.

Disappointing.  Why resources only?  Why not everything else that's not equipped?  So killing people that don't do any harvesting (such as myself) will be pointless and fruitless.

Any info on this? 

You are marketing your website better than Jake is marketing his game.....

Also, that so called 'interview' (dunno if you can call 2 questions an interview) has already been posted here on MMORPG.com 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/572/view/forums/thread/315467/A-small-interview-with-Jake-Song.html

So anybody got any clues (translations lol) as to when beta 3 will start?

Damn, that qinggong feature looks fun as hell.  

Hm.... it looks like there is some sort of combo system for the combat.

Originally posted by taulutussi

If you had to aim your spells, I guess this game would have it all :)

Will definitely keep an eye out for this one.

Watch some of the videos, combat is definitely tab-targetting type.  I wish it was more like Darkfall, but I can accept tab-target combat if everything else is even half as good as it seems right now.o

The saga of Pyromancers still continues, however.

I wish they asked about NA release.

Originally posted by romanator0

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/how-contact-gw2-devs-in-t15941.html?t=15941

Wanna know something awesome? A dev was the first person to respond on this thread.

Notice further down the thread that...there is a big fail lol.  People can't even send PMs to devs.  Perhaps guru doesn't want devs to receive direct raw feedback from players w/out going through their threads/eyes, so that they can present to devs only the information that gurus agree with.

And if you really pay attention to all the posts made, you can see that people have to tip toe just to find a right place to post a question.  It's like the users are begging to let their voices be heard while at the mercy of mods who are most likely to delete their question should it be something that a mod doesn't like.  The whole atmosphere feels very limiting, tense, and hostile.

That thread alone helped me solidify the view that fan forums are a bad news, and I wish GW2 the best of luck, I'm getting off the GW2 train.

Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

I was just thinking of making a thread just like this one. I wrote nearly all of this post before reading any of the thread, but after getting most of the way through, the post has become a lot more relevant.

The main reason I was going to make this thread is that I really hate GW2Guru and will never make an account there. It's unfortunate that the closest thing we will ever have to official forums is run by fanboys who edit, delete, merge, and lock wantonly throughout the board. And I KNOW that posts get deleted A LOT because I'll very frequently see people quoting posts that no longer exist. Said something negative? Deleted. Having a conversation? Nope, no longer relevant to the OP. Locked. Posting something specific about a class? No, that belongs in the hundred-some-odd page thread specified for that class. Merged if you're lucky. They once even divided a thread in two, resulting in a huge mess that no one could make sense of, and so both topics ended up dying.

Oh, sure, there are several threads where people complain about features they don't understand, but it seems that a negative post can only occur in a negative thread. Anything else would be considered "off topic". Of course, this is only if the thread itself survives.

Speaking of those complaints, I've noticed that the vast majority of people complaining about game mechanics didn't play any MMOs other than GW. ("OMG potions", "no more energy manip? wtf", "You can't change your first 5 skills? LAME!") Representative of GW2's future playerbase? I think not.

I've seen people having ordinary discussions there, then a mod will pop in, tell the OP his thread is pointless, and lock it at the same time.

For a long time, I wondered why everyone was always so nice on that site. It was like a big circle jerk. It was disgusting. Then I eventually realized that all the negative posts were just getting deleted.

That's why I like this site. When people want to bitch, they come out and do it, and if they need to get told, someone tells them. Yeah, posts still get deleted, but when they do, it's pretty obvious why. (You also get a PM about it.)

I know ANet keeps tabs on their various forums, but when someone who just bought the game has something to say (or a question to ask), they need a central place they can go. What are they supposed to do? Search for fansites and pick one?

EDIT: And now that I've finished reading the thread, I see that this has pretty much all been mentioned already. :\ Oh well...

I think you summed all of it up pretty well.  Well said.  

Well one thing is for certain, judging for by this thread alone, there seems to be a A LOT of interest for this game.  The main complaints seems to be:

1. Fear of Pay to Win model

2. Fear of endless grind.

3. Girly character models

I think all of these aspects could easily be addressed for a 'western' version of the game.  I hope that the developers are paying attention.  There is a big potential for this game in the west.  There is a huge niche that this game could fill.

Originally posted by Dream_Chaser

I hope at the very least that if there aren't an official forums, that they'll run their own surveys for every important issue, because my poblem is still that generally fan forums you have to take with a pinch of salt. There's no reliable information, there, in regards to what people want. That's the only part that bothers me, really. I suppose then that so long as they did do their own surveys, it could turn out well. But if there wa a hotly disputed element of the game, for and against, then you could never really datamine fan forums for realistic information in regards to how players really feel. They're an unreliable source.

Exactly.  This is why I would that they rather not use any forms at all if they are not using their own official forums.  They can do IRC chats, their blog, facebook, tweeter, I don't care, but once they start dealing with fansites it only benefits those that can put up with the population that's on that fansite.

You are about 2 weeks too late to announce this.  FYI.  Had it on my phone for about 2 weeks.  Seems like your news team is lacking.

It has been available for Android since March 29th.  Source: http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?144530-RIFT-Android-Authenticator-Now-Available!

And it is also available for iPhone since April 11th.  Source: http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?161478-Rift-Mobile-Authenticator-Now-Available-for-iPhone-and-iOS-3.0-!

I was under impression that this was going to be subscription game and not an item shop game.  Item shop would be a deal breaker for me most likely.  I hate wallet warriors.