Originally posted by geekorama

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 only cause its going to be going f2p

Originally posted by just2duh

 Tried Vindictus?

 Some people will argue that it isn't an mmo, but that's just because of the stage/instance based quests. It does however have some pretty nice options for defeating enemies, nearly everything can be broken or used to bash mobs with (even another mobs weapon lol), can even collapse some structures ontop or below things to kill or hurt them.

 There are also traps in most levels, to either avoid or use to your advantage, some of which can be activated by using a lever but for the most part they are ussually always active obstacles.

 Might be something worth checking out if you're just looking for something short term, it doesn't work well for a 24/7 mmo infact it's designed to prevent that, but as for a jump in jump out game it's great.

 I agree with this. Vindictus is probably what your looking for, as just2duh stated it is instance based, and you can either go the quests alone or join an existing boat party for a quest, in which most are up to 4 people, but there are raids, that will allow you to go up to 6, for some of the more powerful and dangerous bosses. Also it uses the Valve engine which most people know that its great for its physics. Oh and did I mention that your armor or clothing literally shows its wear and tear, what I mean by that is whatever your wearing will either have rips, and shredding if its cloth armor, and heavier armor will be broken into pieces and be hanging off of your character. So if  your in a dungeon and you begin taking a beating from the boss and your armor reaches a certain durability it "breaks", in return causes your defense to drop, so it wont protect you as much from those blows and hits. Just give it a try, I think you will like it, I'm on the East server by the name Eriph, if you have any questions please hit me up.

You know how SOE does it, they gotta try to capitalize on NC Softs City of Heroes/Villians. How cares if you can fight along side Batman, or superman or the Joker. I'm more of a Marvel fan myself anywho.

City of Heroes ftw!

I'm going to put my 2 cents in and then I vote that this thread be locked.

I think the OP needs to get on some medication so he/she can decifer what is fiction and non fiction. Maybe check into a "Shady Acres" mental health home for a few days, get on a thorizine drip, or some Haldal.

I now vote that this thread be locked.

"BioWare, LucasArts, and EA may have the next big MMO on the marketplace."

There it is, finally it has been said. I honestly believe that this is going to be true.

Has anyone heard if characters who use pistols will be able to have holsters?

That is a feature that I wish they would put in SWG. It is just an iconic piece of clothing that I hope they implement in SWTOR.

I hope they have Bothans, I will play a Bothan smuggler, just as I do in SWG.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by infrared1

@Abrahmm

This trailer doesn't lead me to believe that this game will be at all. Come on, being thrown through a slab of concrete. Throwin soldiers around like rag dolls. Where's the balance in that. Of course this is only my opinion based on what I've seen in most of the video that has been released so far. The game Will be all about Jedi. Don't think you should try to take one on unless you have one by your side or a small army to back you up. Only time will tell. I like Jedi just as much as the next SW geek, but I do believe that there can be to much of a good thing. Thanks for your opinion. /kowtow

 

I think those actions in the trailer were more for dramatic effect, and not game play features. I doubt you will see many of the things in that trailer in the game itself. But yes, they are focusing too much on Jedi imo.

Umm Jedi is supposed to be focused on in Star Wars The Old Republic. Jedi are in their prime during this time, so it makes sense that jedi are the center of focus.

Originally posted by liberalguy

Originally posted by Tenbwen1

Originally posted by GGordon27

I believe SGW is not going to make it. CME is having to many problems and complications, with either financial negotiations, reports of staff not being paid, and now studio head has jumped ship as well, not to mention the rumors that the game is not fairing very well. I think they should go ahead and either hand the project over to a more qualified and expierienced development company, or scratch the whole thing all together, I believe that if CME continues with the production of this game, it will crush the Stargate franchise, and make lots of fans upset.

 

Shame on you for even voicing such a horrible idea. The game would be better off canceled than falling into the clutches of SOE.

Where the hell do I mention SOE at all in my post. I don't believe it's in there.

Originally posted by Tenbwen1

Originally posted by GGordon27

I believe SGW is not going to make it. CME is having to many problems and complications, with either financial negotiations, reports of staff not being paid, and now studio head has jumped ship as well, not to mention the rumors that the game is not fairing very well. I think they should go ahead and either hand the project over to a more qualified and expierienced development company, or scratch the whole thing all together, I believe that if CME continues with the production of this game, it will crush the Stargate franchise, and make lots of fans upset.

 

so your saying SOE going to take it over like they did with Vanguard.

Umm where the hell does it say anywhere in my post anything about SOE?

I believe SGW is not going to make it. CME is having to many problems and complications, with either financial negotiations, reports of staff not being paid, and now studio head has jumped ship as well, not to mention the rumors that the game is not fairing very well. I think they should go ahead and either hand the project over to a more qualified and expierienced development company, or scratch the whole thing all together, I believe that if CME continues with the production of this game, it will crush the Stargate franchise, and make lots of fans upset.

Originally posted by ramzith

As a long standing memeber of MMORPG and the community i get really pissed off when a european company priorities the US market over the European one

I am a man of principles, I dont pay for movies that are realeased in the US prior to being released in EUROPE. I dont pay for music which is released in the US prior to being released in EUROPE and i will not buy games that are released in the US befor Europe.

In the registration process Aventurine requires a Zip code, in europe we have no Zip codes, hence we can not register, and hence we can not proceed with the Pre-orders

I dont know about the rest of Europe but a UK post code does not work as the Zip code needs to be in numbers and no letters.

I have been supportive of Darkfall, this is evident in my previous posts, but I am a european citizen, and if the Germans, Scandinavians,French, English and other european countries are descrimiated against then my good will quickly change and any support the european market may have offered you will quicky evaporate.

shame on you Tasos, you should know your home market better and you should understand that europeans dont like the preferential treatment that the US often enjoys. (not disrespect to our US friends)

Originally posted by Teala

Guys if you've been following the game, you'd know that FLS did what they could for now regarding the land avatar.  Trust me, this game has come a long way since they first announced it.   Even I was sceptical that FLS would stick with it considering the task they gave themselves.   All I can say is give this game time and I bet it'll be one of the funnest niche' games on the market.   ^_^

I agree 100% with that

I figure the NDA will be released during the open beta. I mean come on its open to the public now, anyone can download it and get a key. In fact I am downloading it right now, and am 27% complete with about an hour and 5 min remaining. I play Voyage Century Online and its not a bad game for being a free MMO, but I think PoTBS looks alot better and hoping that it will have alot more content than VCO. I am sure it will be raised soon.

Kinda hard to believe that LA and Bioware are making a joint title, considering EA just bought out Bioware.

Originally posted by seabass2003

 

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Time for an update!!

06.25.07 by Rusty

First of all, the Contract is signed. A joint press release will be going out tomorrow morning, but it’s important to all of us here that our community hear it first and here it straight from us. So without further ado:

 Pirates of the Burning Sea will be published in partnership with Sony Online Entertainment’s Platform Publishing. This is an important deal for Flying Lab Software and we know how passionate our community is about this issue. So before you start posting your thoughts on our forums, let me share how this particular arrangement differs from publishing deals you may have read about in the past.

So what is “Platform Publishing”? It’s a partnership program in which SOE and an independent developer work together to release a game. It’s very different from SOE’s main publishing efforts, where they develop the games internally (i.e. Everquest 2, Star Wars: Galaxies). Instead the developer makes the game, SOE publishes it, and together we divvy up the various responsibilities.

Here is the breakdown:

 Flying Lab Software
• Game Development
• Community
• Customer Support
• Server Operations

 Sony Online Entertainment
• Billing
• Launcher
• Retail Distribution
• Localization
• Marketing

Here’s why we decided to work together.
First, we weren’t going to work with anybody unless we kept control of the game development and the community. That eliminated a lot of potential partners right off the bat. Let me tell you a few things that are different about working with SOE than with the other MMO publishers we talked with:

1) We keep complete ownership of Pirates of the Burning Sea.
2) We have no interference from SOE on the development/ideas of the game.
3) Because we financed Pirates ourselves, we keep most of the revenues so we stay strong and independent.
4) The contract they gave us actually says what we agreed to verbally.

Pretty basic stuff, I know, but we talked to maybe a dozen other development houses and MMO publishers, and many of them had one or more of the following in their relationships and contracts:

1) Publisher takes ownership of the intellectual property.
2) All sorts of verbal promises that never appeared in the contract.
3) Publisher approval over the game’s design.

All of this is why negotiating with SOE was such a breath of fresh air. I kept tensing at various points, expecting them to pull off the mask of humanity and say “Puny humans, our superior alien contract will take control of your game!” But thankfully for both us and all life on Earth, that never happened.

Here’s exactly what SOE brings to this that we want:

1) Strong distribution – We want Pirates of the Burning Sea to be in every retail store that carries games. SOE has that down cold.
2) Great localization process – We really want a simultaneous launch in Europe and the US because we think it could do as well over there as over here. Working with SOE gives us the best chance of making that happen.
3) Enthusiasm – I really can’t stress this enough. You can write a contract to say anything you want about how much work each party will do, but that’s nothing compared to having your partners genuinely excited to work with you, from the marketing people to the programmers to the executives. And boy, are they excited. (You would be, too, if a great game fell into your lap!)
4) Clockwork process – We want to launch Pirates this fall. The game is in great shape and we’re going into large-scale beta testing this week. To hit a fall launch date, we needed a partner who knows the entire process inside and out, someone who can just start turning the crank and making it happen.

We had two other paths to launching this fall: going it alone and working with another independent outfit we’ve been spending time with. Both of these were good options in general (especially the partnership approach, as we really like those guys). But for either of those approaches to work for a fall launch, everything would have to go right the first time and we’d still need some luck. By working with SOE we know it’ll just happen.

So now you know why we made the decision. But let’s talk about why you should love it:
Platform Publishing is a channel for independent developers to compete on the same level as a big publisher – without selling their soul.
If you’re looking for the next WoW, you probably don’t care about Platform Publishing. The industry’s got you covered. But if you want something off the beaten track, something that’s more of a labor of love than an entry on a spreadsheet, then you want independent developers to thrive. And Platform Publishing is exactly how they can thrive without either being ghettoized into download-only (though this becomes more legitimate every day) or having to sell out to a publisher.

And that’s what I want. You know me, I believe in off-beat, different content. I’ve put my money where my mouth is. And I want more developers to do the same. A big part of our business plan was the uncertainty of where download distribution would be when we shipped, and if we wanted to go retail, how we’d do it on our own. Platform Publishing lets the developer avoid all of that business overhead and focus on making their game. Which would be a good thing because frankly, I see a number of companies that are struggling to do both at the same time and run the risk of doing neither well.

So, now you know the broad strokes of what’s going on. I’m sure that we’ll be answering a lot of questions over the next few days, but let me get a jump start on them now.

 What will it cost to play?
We aren’t ready to announce that yet but it’ll be typical of recent MMOs. Pirates will be a subscription-based game just as it’s always been.

 Will Pirates be on Station Access Pass?
Yes. For one price you can play EQ, EQ2, Pirates, and everything else SOE has to offer.

 Can I pre-order?
There will be pre-order boxes in stores this summer.

 The changes SOE made to Star Wars: Galaxies have been really controversial. Aren’t you afraid that you’ll be next?
No. The design of the game is entirely in our control.

 Won’t Sony end up buying you out the way they did Vanguard?
The difficulties Sigil had with Vanguard have been pretty well publicized at this point. We’re in a very different situation financially and have no fear of shutting down. A lot of independent studios have just enough money to shove the game out the door and then go bankrupt if they don’t have their next project already financed. We are very, very fortunate to not be in that situation. We’re self-financed and beholden to no one. Flying Lab is in good shape. We made this decision because we wanted to, not because we had to.

 I hate SOE and I will never play your game.
That’s okay. I’m sure there will be people who play our game and then hate it anyway. We can’t make everyone happy but I can make you this promise: if Pirates isn’t good, if you don’t like how the game is designed, or how the servers are operated, or how we interact with our community, it’ll be our fault, not SOE’s. We own the game and the buck stops here.

 Will this affect your trade show schedule?
Yeah, it’s increasing! We’ll be at E3, at the SOE FanFaire, and at Leipzig, for example. And of course you’ll still see us at the Penny Arcade Expo and many other events.

 Will the Flying Lab forums continue, or will there be a new Sony Pirates forum?
We’ve gone to a lot of effort to build a thriving community here, and we have every intention of continuing it. We own community management, so our website forum will still be the place to go. You’ll need to create a free SOE account that links to our forums, because we’re using their servers for downloading the beta and other backend things, but Aether and the rest of us will still be here on the forums every day as usual.

 Hey, what about that expanded beta you’ve talked about recently? Does this affect it?
Nope. We’ll be releasing our big new build to the beta in the next 24 hours and after a couple weeks of shakedown time, we’ll be inviting 10,000 new beta testers in to try it out!

 What about open beta?
Stay tuned.

So there you have it folks. I know you will have additional questions, and we will be here to answer them directly. First, you can stop by this thread and share your thoughts, and second, you can attend our next IRC Devchat that we’ve scheduled for Tuesday, June 26th at 2:00p PST (GMT -8) in #potbs-devchat on the irc.coldfront.net server.

Flying Lab Software has always had a commitment to open communication, and our new partnership with SOE does not change that.

Finally, thank you for your patience during this process. I know you guys will have a lot of questions, so we’ll be around tonight to answer them.

Well I have to say this, at least they actually show us whats in the contract (or at least we hope thats what is in the contract). Secondly, I too was upset when I heard that SoE was going to be doing the co producing. I too am not a huge fan SoE especially after what they did to SWG. But you know, its time to move on, and accept the fact that most MMO's that are coming out are more than likely going to be going to SoE for co publishing or co-producing. Lets face it community, SoE is the leading horse when it comes to the online gaming world. Yes most of us are upset cause of this turn, but I am sure that Flying Lab Software knows what they are doing. I, for one am going to give this game a try, just because SoE's name is going to be on the packaging, doesn't mean SoE is going to have any part of controlling the game.

Originally posted by devilishlydo

Or as I've said before, it's part Eve Online, part Warhammer Online ... only in the Bahamas Caribbean in the 18th century.

Okay now that I fixed it, Caribbean in the 18th Century FTW

Currently in line to download at fileplanet 41 of 50 estimated wait time is 30 min.

Originally posted by daemon

Watched this game for a long time now... and I keep seeing uglyness everywhere.

Just saw the latest screenshots and I dont know if its me or the characters and npc models look totally ugly like a game 6 years old...

Sure the water looks nice the sky looks nice but I see some kind of choppiness and cubic unpolished bad models , textures and all that in every damn screenshot.

Ugly cubic edges and ugly clothing options just scream of really old game graphics.

What do you guys think?

Its in beta for goodness sakes. Most beta games are gonna look blocky and choppy. The game isn't even polished. Once the game is complete and is polished and is loaded with the correct graphics engine, then I am sure it will look a whole lot better. Besides I realy didnt think the screens didnt look all that bad. Personally I think its just you.

PoTBS looks alot better than Voyage Century. I mean don't get me wrong, VC for being a free MMO looks good, but it lacks content, and depth. PoTBS looks as if it going to be a anticipated game. I probably will be picking up this game.